Who's making the move to STU?

Rusty · 05-28-2019, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

My vote is buy the totaled car back and build an FP car out of it.

..............and get a HF dent puller and spend years pulling all the dents out.

gomer_110 · 05-28-2019, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

..............and get a HF dent puller and spend years pulling all the dents out.

That's the best part of an FP car, nobody cares if it's covered in dents.

Brendan · 05-28-2019, 09:32 PM

I'll sell it to you real cheap so you can try that. I'm not done with stu quite yet.

Brendan · 05-30-2019, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zewerr

Alright, the suspension is in, and alignment has been completed. My car is basically 98% finished. I ended up quickly setting the ride height and alignment and went racing the next day (today). We had a double header in which we ran two events in one day, running the course one way in the morning, then backwards in the afternoon. I ended up second overall PAX, .346 behind BSP National Champion, Ron Bauer, in his BSP ND Miata in the morning, and second again in the afternoon behind Ron, again, this time .638 back. Tire temps show I have a bit too much negative camber in the front (-3.7, -3.9), so I'm going to have to dial it back a bit, and I also want to lower the rear a little more to transfer more weight towards the back. The car still can use a corner balance to top things off. Overall, though, the car is amazing, and fun as ****! I'm excited to get it this fast this quickly and can't wait to run it in Packwood!

I think you made the right call on the spring rates. I was afraid that at 2.00~ htz it would be too firm but i think i can go quite a bit stiffer. What else do you have planned? Also do you have the the first gen spc uppper control arms or the new turnbuckle style ones?

Zewerr · 05-30-2019, 11:56 PM

I went with the turnbuckle style to get separate caster adjustment, as well. Though, I'm questioning the legality of the bushings on them. From the pictures, they looked conventional, but upon inspection, they appear to be spherical, but insulated with rubber.

The only thing I really have left, is swaybars. I'm not entirely sure what I'm going to do with them, yet. I'd like to get all my suspension adjustments dialed in, then see where I need to go from there. As it sits, I feel like I just need a softer rear bar. I may disconnect it at some point and see how it does.

Brendan · 05-31-2019, 05:52 PM

if only spl would make a poly bushing version of their arms. I have the z1 arms and was wondering why I had full turn differences left to right. turns out the threaded tube that the upper ball joint threads in is not even close to welded in the same area. frustrating but it was the best option i could see as far as legality and cost.

240se · 05-31-2019, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brendan

I'll sell it to you real cheap so you can try that. I'm not done with stu quite yet.

I would think there would be a lot of interest for a mechanically sound but rough looking inexpensive track Z.

Brendan · 05-31-2019, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 240se

I would think there would be a lot of interest for a mechanically sound but rough looking inexpensive track Z.

Right. I'm sure there will be at auction lol. I enjoy looking at my cars too much to go down that route but I know it would make somebody happy.

gomer_110 · 05-31-2019, 09:19 PM

I can't speak to the SPL front arms, but the rear camber arms and the midlinks can easily be converted to be compliant with the rules. You just have to buy some poly-bushed rod ends to replace the sphericals that came with the arms. The only other thing is to get a local machine shop to make a couple spacers and a replacement center sleeve to make them fit. This is the exact setup I have on my BSP car.

I would think their fronts arms would be just as easy to convert.

Brendan · 05-31-2019, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

I can't speak to the SPL front arms, but the rear camber arms and the midlinks can easily be converted to be compliant with the rules. You just have to buy some poly-bushed rod ends to replace the sphericals that came with the arms. The only other thing is to get a local machine shop to make a couple spacers and a replacement center sleeve to make them fit. This is the exact setup I have on my BSP car.

I would think their fronts arms would be just as easy to convert.

Thats not a bad idea. We have a local guy who built an f mod car from scratch. I'm sure he knows his way around a lathe.

_BES7499 by brendan sobers, on Flickr

gomer_110 · 05-31-2019, 09:56 PM

Poly Rod Ends This is what I used just maybe not the same size (can't remember anymore). All the lathe pieces I think ran me around $75.

Brendan · 06-04-2019, 10:56 PM

we have another option for adjustable front links now.

I ordered these before my car got destroyed and will be installing them on the new vehicle. Interested to see how well they work.

It also appears the moonface links have come down in price if you're looking for a more premium experience.

///maestro · 06-05-2019, 03:03 PM

I love my whiteline swaybar and endlinks. Car handles like it's on rails!

Brendan · 06-24-2019, 05:32 PM

Finally got the new car built. I am really considering changing out the z1 front arms. I hate doing stuff twice but that's just the way it is some times. It's frustrating how inconsistent they are and it's kind of a pain to have to disassemble the front suspension to make minor changes. I am concerned with the legality of the new spc arms so I may do that as a next season change after nationals.

Zewerr · 06-25-2019, 12:52 AM

I'm just now discovering that the cheaper SPC control arms also have caster adjustment. It's hard to tell what kind of bushings it has from the pictures, though. Anyone know if they are standard rubber or poly, and not spherical?

05-28-2019, 09:32 PM	#168 (permalink)
Brendan Track Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 642 Drives: Poor man's Porsche Rep Power: 542	I'll sell it to you real cheap so you can try that. I'm not done with stu quite yet. Rusty and 240se like this.

05-30-2019, 11:56 PM	#170 (permalink)
Zewerr Base Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 45 Drives: 11 370Z 82/182 STU Rep Power: 6	I went with the turnbuckle style to get separate caster adjustment, as well. Though, I'm questioning the legality of the bushings on them. From the pictures, they looked conventional, but upon inspection, they appear to be spherical, but insulated with rubber. The only thing I really have left, is swaybars. I'm not entirely sure what I'm going to do with them, yet. I'd like to get all my suspension adjustments dialed in, then see where I need to go from there. As it sits, I feel like I just need a softer rear bar. I may disconnect it at some point and see how it does. Brendan likes this. Last edited by Zewerr; 05-30-2019 at 11:59 PM.

05-31-2019, 09:19 PM	#174 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	I can't speak to the SPL front arms, but the rear camber arms and the midlinks can easily be converted to be compliant with the rules. You just have to buy some poly-bushed rod ends to replace the sphericals that came with the arms. The only other thing is to get a local machine shop to make a couple spacers and a replacement center sleeve to make them fit. This is the exact setup I have on my BSP car. I would think their fronts arms would be just as easy to convert. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

05-31-2019, 09:56 PM	#176 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	Poly Rod Ends This is what I used just maybe not the same size (can't remember anymore). All the lathe pieces I think ran me around $75. Brendan likes this. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

06-04-2019, 10:56 PM	#177 (permalink)
Brendan Track Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 642 Drives: Poor man's Porsche Rep Power: 542	we have another option for adjustable front links now. I ordered these before my car got destroyed and will be installing them on the new vehicle. Interested to see how well they work. It also appears the moonface links have come down in price if you're looking for a more premium experience. Rusty, Hotrodz and Justint5387 like this.

05-31-2019, 05:52 PM	#171 (permalink)
Brendan Track Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 642 Drives: Poor man's Porsche Rep Power: 542	if only spl would make a poly bushing version of their arms. I have the z1 arms and was wondering why I had full turn differences left to right. turns out the threaded tube that the upper ball joint threads in is not even close to welded in the same area. frustrating but it was the best option i could see as far as legality and cost.

06-05-2019, 03:03 PM	#178 (permalink)
///maestro Track Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 530 Drives: 11' 370z\|09' BMW M3 Rep Power: 12	I love my whiteline swaybar and endlinks. Car handles like it's on rails! __________________ Gallo24 swapped 370z Instagram: @z34_motorsport

06-24-2019, 05:32 PM	#179 (permalink)
Brendan Track Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 642 Drives: Poor man's Porsche Rep Power: 542	Finally got the new car built. I am really considering changing out the z1 front arms. I hate doing stuff twice but that's just the way it is some times. It's frustrating how inconsistent they are and it's kind of a pain to have to disassemble the front suspension to make minor changes. I am concerned with the legality of the new spc arms so I may do that as a next season change after nationals.

06-25-2019, 12:52 AM	#180 (permalink)
Zewerr Base Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 45 Drives: 11 370Z 82/182 STU Rep Power: 6	I'm just now discovering that the cheaper SPC control arms also have caster adjustment. It's hard to tell what kind of bushings it has from the pictures, though. Anyone know if they are standard rubber or poly, and not spherical?

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