Aeromotions wing install

z510 · 10-14-2017, 02:00 PM

For anyone who's installed this wing, does it move a bit laterally?

I used the stock mounting hardware (the black aluminum feet that come with the wing), bolted it all down. And vertically the wing is very solid but side to side it moves maybe a quarter inch.

The play seems to be coming from the aluminum trunk which has some give to it. I've seen other installs where they did reinforced (Mike the powdercoater's install). Wondering if I need to go that route as well

thanks guys, appreciate the help

takjak2 · 10-19-2017, 10:21 AM

Yes, if you are bolting to the hatch you will need to reinforce it.

cdoxp800 · 11-09-2017, 07:56 PM

No issues with mine at all. Zero reinforce

tonythetiger · 12-15-2017, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cdoxp800

No issues with mine at all. Zero reinforce

looks good!

yaoxiao4 · 11-09-2018, 04:59 PM

reviving an old thread, I've been trying to find how to reinforce the hatch but to no avail, my APR wing shakes quite a bit even at 40 mph and I'm wondering what I can do

Hotrodz · 11-09-2018, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by yaoxiao4

reviving an old thread, I've been trying to find how to reinforce the hatch but to no avail, my APR wing shakes quite a bit even at 40 mph and I'm wondering what I can do

I just did mine so I will take a picture for you. All I did was add a plate to mount the wing to out of some carbon fiber pieces I had laying around. It is not the most cosmetically looking but there absolutely no wiggle anymore even when I put my full weight behind it.

The other method is to make a stand that attaches to the bottom of the hatch were the wing mounts are mounted. You would use longer bolts to fasten the two together and then the stand would set and can be affixed to the bottom of the trunk if that makes sense.

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yaoxiao4 · 11-09-2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

I just did mine so I will take a picture for you. All I did was add a plate to mount the wing to out of some carbon fiber pieces I had laying around. It is not the most cosmetically looking but there absolutely no wiggle anymore even when I put my full weight behind it.

The other method is to make a stand that attaches to the bottom of the hatch were the wing mounts are mounted. You would use longer bolts to fasten the two together and then the stand would set and can be affixed to the bottom of the trunk if that makes sense.

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Yeah a picture would be great! Thank you!

another suggestion my shop gave me was to use cables, not sure how that would work though if hatch is the issue

I guess if we cable it to the rear bumper? but would never be able to use the trunk again....

Hotrodz · 11-09-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by yaoxiao4

Yeah a picture would be great! Thank you!

another suggestion my shop gave me was to use cables, not sure how that would work though if hatch is the issue

I guess if we cable it to the rear bumper? but would never be able to use the trunk again....

Yep, that is why I decided to go the route I did first. The crazy thing is the mounts for the same wing or the 500 on the GTR are much beefier...not sure why they did use the design for the Z.

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yaoxiao4 · 11-09-2018, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Yep, that is why I decided to go the route I did first. The crazy thing is the mounts for the same wing or the 500 on the GTR are much beefier...not sure why they did use the design for the Z.

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especially when the mounts are so close together in the center for the gtc300....

another question is, what effect does it have when the wing shakes much, am I loosing DF or its getting inconsistent airflow?

Hotrodz · 11-09-2018, 07:29 PM

Here are the pictures I promised.

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jwick · 11-09-2018, 07:45 PM

The wing is basically a portal frame. The thin aluminum trunk has zero moment carrying capability. Reinforcing the bottom, like Bob did, will spread the moment over a larger area. If you don’t like that look, you can probably get away with putting that plate on the inside of the trunk instead of the outside. You could stop the swaying by x-bracing it too. I’m assuming that’s what your shop was talking about doing with the cable. I don’t know what vortex vibration you might pick up on a cable or any x-brace you might use that is cylindrical.

10-14-2017, 02:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
z510 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: east bay CA Posts: 12 Drives: 2010 370z Rep Power: 9	Aeromotions wing install For anyone who's installed this wing, does it move a bit laterally? I used the stock mounting hardware (the black aluminum feet that come with the wing), bolted it all down. And vertically the wing is very solid but side to side it moves maybe a quarter inch. The play seems to be coming from the aluminum trunk which has some give to it. I've seen other installs where they did reinforced (Mike the powdercoater's install). Wondering if I need to go that route as well thanks guys, appreciate the help

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jwick A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 14,532 Drives: '10 G37 6MT Rep Power: 2465057	Aeromotions wing install The wing is basically a portal frame. The thin aluminum trunk has zero moment carrying capability. Reinforcing the bottom, like Bob did, will spread the moment over a larger area. If you don’t like that look, you can probably get away with putting that plate on the inside of the trunk instead of the outside. You could stop the swaying by x-bracing it too. I’m assuming that’s what your shop was talking about doing with the cable. I don’t know what vortex vibration you might pick up on a cable or any x-brace you might use that is cylindrical. Hotrodz and yaoxiao4 like this. __________________ '10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

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11-09-2018, 04:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
yaoxiao4 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Bay Area Posts: 320 Drives: 13 370z Black M6 Rep Power: 9	reviving an old thread, I've been trying to find how to reinforce the hatch but to no avail, my APR wing shakes quite a bit even at 40 mph and I'm wondering what I can do