Safety seat and belt question?

synolimit · 12-13-2015, 02:25 PM

Almost seems like the HANS or belt need an anti slip material.

ResIpsa · 12-13-2015, 03:32 PM

I decided to jump to my garage and strapped in to my car with my helmet and HANS device. Try this, first make sure your lap belt and crotch strap is tightened. Then slip on your hans and helmet and tension up your shoulder belts.

Sit as tall as you can in the seat literally pushing your shoulders up against the belts. Then use your helmet and push hard back against your seat compressing the Hans device in the process. You will feel the HANS device being push up over your shoulders. Now while maintaining the pressure with your helmet and your shoulders tighten belts as hard as you can.

Any better?

Mike B CCTX · 12-15-2015, 09:10 PM

2103 NISMO
Sparco Evo Seats
4 point roll cage
6 point Safecraft belts
Necksgen device

Cage, seats, belts done at Winding Road in Austin...great shop.

Juliann, my installer, said there is supposed to be a certain downward angle from the seat back slots to the belt attaching on the cross brace. I'm 6'2", so have to take the padding out of the seat bottom when I have my helmet on. But once strapped in with my Necksgen device I have very little forward or side head movement. Hope pics show. I did some research before deciding on a permanent roll cage set up. Can't say it was scientific, but seemed to be the safest alternative when using a Hans or Necksgen device. Also, the top bar is back far enough I don't worry about contacting it when I'm not wearing a helmet. Hope the pics that follow show the set up.

Mike B CCTX · 12-15-2015, 09:16 PM

Cage and seat back

Mike B CCTX · 12-15-2015, 09:19 PM

Another view

Mike B CCTX · 12-15-2015, 09:29 PM

Still getting ready...but Necksgen and belts on

ban25 · 12-16-2015, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike B CCTX

Still getting ready...but Necksgen and belts on

How is the Necksgen in terms of side-impact protection? I have a Hybrid, but I'm looking at the Sparco Ergo for Halo protection.

Mike B CCTX · 12-16-2015, 04:57 PM

Ban25,

The literature on the Necksgen says it offers the same features as the HANS device to include side protection. I honestly don't know what is considered acceptable side protection. I do know it's quite comfortable to wear and easy to exit my car with it still attached to my helmet. The guys at Windong Road in Austin recommended it and said they are getting good feedback from other users. It does advertise side to side movement, but when I'm strapped in tight, I have limited side movement. I can view my left side mirror but not my riight side mirror.

Hotrodz · 12-16-2015, 09:04 PM

Mike thanks so much for you help...

synolimit · 12-23-2015, 10:29 PM

Good lord per this my setup sucks still.

sig11 · 12-24-2015, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Good lord per this my setup sucks still.

That seems over the top to me. :P

2011 Nismo#91 · 12-24-2015, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Good lord per this my setup sucks still.

"statistically you are more likely to die while towing your car to the track"

takjak2 · 12-24-2015, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Good lord per this my setup sucks still.

I think this is actually a good guide. I say that with four stars ****

synolimit · 12-25-2015, 03:20 AM

Guess I need to go to autozone for my ricer, I mean fire extinguisher.

ResIpsa · 12-25-2015, 02:17 PM

I think fire safety is important even in HPDE. Although I am NOT saying that a fire suit is a absolute necessity. You just want to make sure that you can survive a couple seconds of flash fire giving you a chance of getting out of the car.

I wear a traqgear podium long sleeve shirt, nomex balaclava, denim jeans, nomex gloves, nomex socks, and SFI rated shoes.

12-13-2015, 02:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	Almost seems like the HANS or belt need an anti slip material. __________________ 13 370z-

12-13-2015, 03:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
ResIpsa Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 564 Drives: 09 RACING HEN Rep Power: 338	I decided to jump to my garage and strapped in to my car with my helmet and HANS device. Try this, first make sure your lap belt and crotch strap is tightened. Then slip on your hans and helmet and tension up your shoulder belts. Sit as tall as you can in the seat literally pushing your shoulders up against the belts. Then use your helmet and push hard back against your seat compressing the Hans device in the process. You will feel the HANS device being push up over your shoulders. Now while maintaining the pressure with your helmet and your shoulders tighten belts as hard as you can. Any better? __________________ The Reed Law Firm; Michael Fasano VA Attorney and Counselor at Law: A Virginia Traffic, Criminal, and Family Lawyer.https://reedlawva.com/

12-16-2015, 09:04 PM	#24 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Mike thanks so much for you help... __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

12-25-2015, 03:20 AM	#29 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	Guess I need to go to autozone for my ricer, I mean fire extinguisher. __________________ 13 370z-

12-25-2015, 02:17 PM	#30 (permalink)
ResIpsa Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 564 Drives: 09 RACING HEN Rep Power: 338	I think fire safety is important even in HPDE. Although I am NOT saying that a fire suit is a absolute necessity. You just want to make sure that you can survive a couple seconds of flash fire giving you a chance of getting out of the car. I wear a traqgear podium long sleeve shirt, nomex balaclava, denim jeans, nomex gloves, nomex socks, and SFI rated shoes. ENT-Z likes this. __________________ The Reed Law Firm; Michael Fasano VA Attorney and Counselor at Law: A Virginia Traffic, Criminal, and Family Lawyer.https://reedlawva.com/

12-15-2015, 09:10 PM	#18 (permalink)
Mike B CCTX Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 46 Drives: 2013 370Z NISMO Rep Power: 11	2103 NISMO Sparco Evo Seats 4 point roll cage 6 point Safecraft belts Necksgen device Cage, seats, belts done at Winding Road in Austin...great shop. Juliann, my installer, said there is supposed to be a certain downward angle from the seat back slots to the belt attaching on the cross brace. I'm 6'2", so have to take the padding out of the seat bottom when I have my helmet on. But once strapped in with my Necksgen device I have very little forward or side head movement. Hope pics show. I did some research before deciding on a permanent roll cage set up. Can't say it was scientific, but seemed to be the safest alternative when using a Hans or Necksgen device. Also, the top bar is back far enough I don't worry about contacting it when I'm not wearing a helmet. Hope the pics that follow show the set up.

12-16-2015, 04:57 PM	#23 (permalink)
Mike B CCTX Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 46 Drives: 2013 370Z NISMO Rep Power: 11	Ban25, The literature on the Necksgen says it offers the same features as the HANS device to include side protection. I honestly don't know what is considered acceptable side protection. I do know it's quite comfortable to wear and easy to exit my car with it still attached to my helmet. The guys at Windong Road in Austin recommended it and said they are getting good feedback from other users. It does advertise side to side movement, but when I'm strapped in tight, I have limited side movement. I can view my left side mirror but not my riight side mirror.

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