370Z Carbon parts and an Introduction

AnthonyD1978 · 08-04-2015, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports

For the master cylinder, what issues are you guys having? Does it just blow the seal with a heavier clutch or abuse? I would like to find the underlying issue to make sure tossing a new part at it would fix the problem.

For the harness bar, we are working on an option for you guy actually. How many of you would be interested in one? There is one bolt in roll bar option out there I am aware of, but I want to investigate it a little farther before I try and offer them, not trying to sell/advertise sub par parts for cars that actually get used!

A legit harness bar with support bar(s) would be welcomed.

Just make sure it is function over form.

AnthonyD1978 · 08-04-2015, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by imjello

Or... just make the only ITB for the 370Z and everyone will be happy!
Everyone = me

We need more wish list threads, I like this one

That would be sick.

MAMotorsports · 08-04-2015, 01:12 PM

I can get the RPM bar, but it seems like the seats are an issue with that set up.

AnthonyD1978 · 08-04-2015, 01:12 PM

Now the question is...

Can you expand this option out to a 4 point cage using similar mounting points plus rear shock mounting points? Not sure if there is a mounting location behind the seat on the floor for the main hoop. Probably needs to be drilled with backing plates.

MAMotorsports · 08-04-2015, 01:22 PM

The harness bar, and a quality 4 point bar will not share any mounting points sadly. IM sure it could be done, but not something I would feel safe selling to people going on track.

If anyone is local, or willing to ship their car out im sure we could build a bolt in 4 point. We normally do full weld in, but, if the market is there we would jig one. The issue is I cant devote 70-100 hours of my fabrication guys time to it right now unless there is a paying customer with a car in here sadly, we are just to booked up for that.

GSS138 · 08-04-2015, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Spec Jay

With the CMC I'm not sure what it is either, I guess I could pop open my original one that failed when I did CSC. I do have to say though that our clutch fluid goes from clean to black unusually quick. Hasn't even been 5000 miles yet and mine has discolored quite a bit.

I basically empty the reservoir in the engine bay and replace a little bit every single track day. I think part of the problem is that our clutch line runs pretty close to the cats/headers. That fluid just gets cooked-twice. I think a few guys on here have recommended thermal wrapping it, they do it when they replace their cats/headers.

GSS138 · 08-04-2015, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports

The harness bar, and a quality 4 point bar will not share any mounting points sadly. IM sure it could be done, but not something I would feel safe selling to people going on track.

If anyone is local, or willing to ship their car out im sure we could build a bolt in 4 point. We normally do full weld in, but, if the market is there we would jig one. The issue is I cant devote 70-100 hours of my fabrication guys time to it right now unless there is a paying customer with a car in here sadly, we are just to booked up for that.

Will definitely be interested as well if you make one.

MAMotorsports · 08-04-2015, 04:17 PM

Would a stainless line that goes directly from the master to the slave line, bypassing all the dampening boxes and what not in the fender-well, and some fire sleeve, be something you guys would be interested in? Seems like that dampening box makes the clutch feel soft.

Rusty · 08-04-2015, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports

Would a stainless line that goes directly from the master to the slave line, bypassing all the dampening boxes and what not in the fender-well, and some fire sleeve, be something you guys would be interested in? Seems like that dampening box makes the clutch feel soft.

Yea.

Rusty · 08-04-2015, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GSS138

I basically empty the reservoir in the engine bay and replace a little bit every single track day. I think part of the problem is that our clutch line runs pretty close to the cats/headers. That fluid just gets cooked-twice. I think a few guys on here have recommended thermal wrapping it, they do it when they replace their cats/headers.

I wrapped mine with Kaowool insulation from work.

GSS138 · 08-04-2015, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports

Would a stainless line that goes directly from the master to the slave line, bypassing all the dampening boxes and what not in the fender-well, and some fire sleeve, be something you guys would be interested in? Seems like that dampening box makes the clutch feel soft.

I think it's a bandaid, but it might help especially on a newer model. Our CSC has a plastic bushing or something. I think with the extreme heat that our clutch fluid gets to on track, that it eventually causes the plastic to fail/deteriorate prematurely.

So if your seal were in good shape, then yeah a nice reroute and thermal protection will save you a costly CSC upgrade later on. But if the plastic is already deteriorated, then this would be just a "nice to have".

Would also be "something to do" while you are replacing our crappy csc with your expensive replcacement.

Hotrodz · 08-04-2015, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports

I can get the RPM bar, but it seems like the seats are an issue with that set up.

I will share my experience and observations as I have a RPM roll bar installed in my Nismo. I think a lot of people forget that when you are talking about a two seat sportcar there are going to be space limitations. Most all things in the US are geared towards the average height and weight of a man that is 5'10", 165 or 170lbs...and we are talking about a Japanese sportscar lol. Therefore, if you are taller than 6' thing can get cramped real quick.

The primary issue with a 4 point roll bar is going to be the position of the top bar as it should be placed where it will protect the driver and passengers cranium by keeping the roof from clasping on top of occupants. I know this seems elementary, but that top bar is going to limit how far back the seat can be placed when it is moved rearward. The point at which the seat will come into contact with the top bar is also determined by how much the driver or passenger wishes to recline their seat. Reclining the seat will lesson leg room significantly.

I am about 6'1" and 210lbs and I don't feel cramped as I like my seat mostly upright and I like to be close enough to my pedals so that I don't have to stretch to reach them. I think a person can maximize leg room by installing a proper race seat as race seats are fixed, not as bulky as oems and can be installed lower to gain additional leg room.

I really think a person needs to decide on what their goals are if they need more leg room. If you are going to track more than daily drive and you are tall and have long legs then you will need to modify the cockpit to accommodate your needs or go with a harness bar. I'm not sure you can get much more room with a 4 point roll bar than RPM without giving something away in relation to safety and that is why you have the roll bar to begin with.

Just my two cents...I hope it is helpful!

MAMotorsports · 08-05-2015, 09:51 AM

Agreed, I always try to recommend a fixed back seat but I know some people are just not looking to do that.

Hotrodz · 08-05-2015, 10:43 AM

Yup, that is next on my to do list. As you mentioned in your other thread, the added benefit of a roll bar is the stability it provides to the car. I had to relearn how to drive it into corners again lol.

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MAMotorsports · 08-05-2015, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Yup, that is next on my to do list. As you mentioned in your other thread, the added benefit of a roll bar is the stability it provides to the car. I had to relearn how to drive it into corners again lol.

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Haha nice!

Well let me know when you are looking for some seats and I would love to help you out.

08-04-2015, 01:12 PM	#48 (permalink)
MAMotorsports Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Glen Arm, MD Posts: 872 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 17	I can get the RPM bar, but it seems like the seats are an issue with that set up. GaleForce likes this. __________________ Daelen @ MA Motorsports MA-Motorsports.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MA-Mo...C/125379858828

08-04-2015, 01:22 PM	#50 (permalink)
MAMotorsports Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Glen Arm, MD Posts: 872 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 17	The harness bar, and a quality 4 point bar will not share any mounting points sadly. IM sure it could be done, but not something I would feel safe selling to people going on track. If anyone is local, or willing to ship their car out im sure we could build a bolt in 4 point. We normally do full weld in, but, if the market is there we would jig one. The issue is I cant devote 70-100 hours of my fabrication guys time to it right now unless there is a paying customer with a car in here sadly, we are just to booked up for that. AnthonyD1978, Hotrodz and GSS138 like this. __________________ Daelen @ MA Motorsports MA-Motorsports.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MA-Mo...C/125379858828

08-04-2015, 04:17 PM	#53 (permalink)
MAMotorsports Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Glen Arm, MD Posts: 872 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 17	Would a stainless line that goes directly from the master to the slave line, bypassing all the dampening boxes and what not in the fender-well, and some fire sleeve, be something you guys would be interested in? Seems like that dampening box makes the clutch feel soft. __________________ Daelen @ MA Motorsports MA-Motorsports.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MA-Mo...C/125379858828

08-05-2015, 09:51 AM	#58 (permalink)
MAMotorsports Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Glen Arm, MD Posts: 872 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 17	Agreed, I always try to recommend a fixed back seat but I know some people are just not looking to do that. Hotrodz likes this. __________________ Daelen @ MA Motorsports MA-Motorsports.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MA-Mo...C/125379858828

08-05-2015, 10:43 AM	#59 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Yup, that is next on my to do list. As you mentioned in your other thread, the added benefit of a roll bar is the stability it provides to the car. I had to relearn how to drive it into corners again lol. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

08-04-2015, 01:12 PM	#49 (permalink)
AnthonyD1978 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: OC, Ca Posts: 200 Drives: 2010 370z Nismo Rep Power: 15	Now the question is... Can you expand this option out to a 4 point cage using similar mounting points plus rear shock mounting points? Not sure if there is a mounting location behind the seat on the floor for the main hoop. Probably needs to be drilled with backing plates.

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