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ryanstreet 07-09-2015 09:36 PM

New To Tuning. Want an Autocross / Track Car
 
I have a 2010 370z touring roadster. I want to upgrade to a track / autocross Z.

My car is currently completely stock. I did some reading and I have a rough idea of my path I need to take. I would love to hear any advice anyone can give me. Am I missing something? Is something out of place?

In between each stage, I want to do some track and dyno readings. Let me know if anything seems out of order or dependent on a different part.

Stage 1:
  • Oil Cooler
  • Brakes
  • Sway Bars
  • Track Tires

Stage 2:
  • Exhaust
  • Upgraded Plugs and Wires
  • ECU

Stage 3:
  • Supercharger

Stage 4:
Trim Parts and Sexiness :)

I am a complete newbie! Thank you for any advice you can give!

Brendan 07-09-2015 09:53 PM

Don't do anything to the car upgrade wise just yet. Just go out there and drive, preferably with an instructor or more experienced driver. Seat time is more valuable than anything else. I would recommend starting with autocross as the bar for entry is much lower.

gomer_110 07-09-2015 09:58 PM

First and most important mod = Driver Mod.

I'd say hold off on any serious mods and spend the money on track days/autox events (and the tires you'll burn through).

Another thing to keep in mind is classing structure for any competitive event you plan on doing. With SCCA autox, it's very easy to mod your car into a class you don't want to be in.

On a side note where in Ohio are you? If you're anywhere near Toledo come out to one of the SCCA autox regional events (HOME).

Dcocci 07-09-2015 10:18 PM

+3 for just getting out there and actually doing it before any mods to the car. You will learn way more about your driving and your car if you modify your car as you progress your driving. Grow with the car and enjoy the journey.

ryanstreet 07-09-2015 10:21 PM

Wow. Solid advice and I really didn't expect it.

ryanstreet 07-09-2015 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3252425)
First and most important mod = Driver Mod.

I'd say hold off on any serious mods and spend the money on track days/autox events (and the tires you'll burn through).

Another thing to keep in mind is classing structure for any competitive event you plan on doing. With SCCA autox, it's very easy to mod your car into a class you don't want to be in.

On a side note where in Ohio are you? If you're anywhere near Toledo come out to one of the SCCA autox regional events (HOME).

Cincinnati Area. almost 3 hours away. Maybe the drive can get me some of that experience you are talking about :)

Know of any other areas in Ohio to get some good track time, lessons, experience, etc.?

03threefiftyz 07-10-2015 06:31 AM

Autox does serve as a good stepping stone. If I were you I'd sign up for an Evo Starting School and Level 1. Solid foundation. After that you can do a track event and see which suits your fancy. Plenty of folks double dip or prefer one to the other.....you're not going to know until you get out there.

gomer_110 07-10-2015 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanstreet (Post 3252440)
Cincinnati Area. almost 3 hours away. Maybe the drive can get me some of that experience you are talking about :)

Know of any other areas in Ohio to get some good track time, lessons, experience, etc.?

SCCA Cincy region
Ohio Valley region (Columbus area)

Just don't get discouraged if you get beat by "lesser" cars on your first time out. Ohio has a rather high level of driver talent in the autox realm.

fwiw you wouldn't be the only guy to come from that far away to run autox in the Toledo area. We have a handful of guys that come from your area for the events that we have at the Toledo airport.

POS VETT 07-10-2015 07:09 AM

Ryanstreet - check out Corvette Troy autox this weekend at Kilkare. Miami Valley SCC has several in a season along with WOR SCCA and Cinci Region SCCA. There is a board member of MVSCC on this forum.

If you're inclined to travel a bit, there are a few autoxes in Columbus; I'll be racing at one of them. This weekend is a very busy automotive-related weekend since GoodGuys and Arthritis Foundation Shows are held all weekend long.

gomer_110 07-10-2015 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS VETT (Post 3252567)
Ryanstreet - check out Corvette Troy autox this weekend at Kilkare. Miami Valley SCC has several in a season along with WOR SCCA and Cinci Region SCCA. There is a board member of MVSCC on this forum.

If you're inclined to travel a bit, there are a few autoxes in Columbus; I'll be racing at one of them. This weekend is a very busy automotive-related weekend since GoodGuys and Arthritis Foundation Shows are held all weekend long.

the board member you speak of is blackcherry20

AnthonyD1978 07-10-2015 10:27 AM

Driver mod is great, but for the Z there are a few things I would personally do no matter what:

Brake pads
Brake fluid
Oil cooler

This is if you're going to do road courses (track days).

For autocross you can get away with being 100% stock.

The next mods just depend on your skill level. Throwing parts on the car won't do much if your skill level can't take advantage of them.

Chuck33079 07-10-2015 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanstreet (Post 3252404)
I have a 2010 370z touring roadster. I want to upgrade to a track / autocross Z.

My car is currently completely stock. I did some reading and I have a rough idea of my path I need to take. I would love to hear any advice anyone can give me. Am I missing something? Is something out of place?

In between each stage, I want to do some track and dyno readings. Let me know if anything seems out of order or dependent on a different part.

Stage 1:
  • Oil Cooler
  • Brakes
  • Sway Bars
  • Track Tires
  • Real Differential

Stage 2:
  • Exhaust
  • Upgraded Plugs and Wires It's coil on plug. No need to upgrade either for NA
  • ECU

Stage 3:
  • Supercharger No. The only available supercharger is Stillen, and it is problematic. NA or turbo.

Stage 4:
Trim Parts and Sexiness :)

I am a complete newbie! Thank you for any advice you can give!

See above edits. Also, make sure you don't mod yourself into a class where the car can't be competitive. Start with the rule book, then pick out mods.

ryanstreet 07-10-2015 11:15 AM

Thanks for everyone's advice! This is all great! I will do some tire, oil cooler, and brake upgrades. After that, I will put real track time in and see which one I prefer. From there, I will look at the associated books and guides to see which route I want to take. I will upgrade according to my racing style. Thank you all!

Time to head to the track!

zpower86 07-10-2015 11:37 AM

New To Tuning. Want an Autocross / Track Car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanstreet (Post 3252404)
I have a 2010 370z touring roadster. I want to upgrade to a track / autocross Z.



My car is currently completely stock. I did some reading and I have a rough idea of my path I need to take. I would love to hear any advice anyone can give me. Am I missing something? Is something out of place?



In between each stage, I want to do some track and dyno readings. Let me know if anything seems out of order or dependent on a different part.



Stage 1:
  • Oil Cooler
  • Brakes
  • Sway Bars
  • Track Tires



Stage 2:
  • Exhaust
  • Upgraded Plugs and Wires
  • ECU



Stage 3:
  • Supercharger



Stage 4:

Trim Parts and Sexiness :)



I am a complete newbie! Thank you for any advice you can give!


ryanstreet- I started racing my Z this year and have basically done what everyone here is saying to do: get seat time. This has worked pretty well for me. I've done as many autocross events as I could -- all the local events and I've traveled to a quite a few within a few hr drive. I've also done one track day at NCM which was a blast (scca track night in America).

Personally, I plan to mainly do autocross in the stock/street classes which only allow limited mods. This is good because it allows me to improve my driving skills in a level playing field. The Z does appear to be competitive in "B Street" against the S2000s, C5 Corvettes and Audis.

Having said all that, I would do an oil cooler and Motul racing brake fluid before you take it on a track.

Here's a link to scca rules which go over what you can do in street class:
http://www.scca.com/pages/solo-cars-and-rules

Good luck getting addicted. :driving:


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visconti 07-11-2015 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanstreet (Post 3252404)
I have a 2010 370z touring roadster. I want to upgrade to a track / autocross Z.



My car is currently completely stock. I did some reading and I have a rough idea of my path I need to take. I would love to hear any advice anyone can give me. Am I missing something? Is something out of place?



In between each stage, I want to do some track and dyno readings. Let me know if anything seems out of order or dependent on a different part.



Stage 1:
  • Oil Cooler
  • Brakes
  • Sway Bars
  • Track Tires



Stage 2:
  • Exhaust
  • Upgraded Plugs and Wires
  • ECU



Stage 3:
  • Supercharger



Stage 4:

Trim Parts and Sexiness :)



I am a complete newbie! Thank you for any advice you can give!


I can help with the ecu side of things when your ready


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