Problematic Vendors

W.O.W. 370Z · 09-09-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry

Where is this person? And why isn't one backing up any claims? I understand it the weekend, but let's start sending out some pm's.

Let's get to the bottom of stuff.

Not many members here with a replica Zele.

Honestly sounds like what is going on is par for the course and acceptable .

So i guess just do more homework and roll the dice.

Losers here besides the poential members dealing with questionable vendors are Japanese manufacturers that have their work stolen especially when given as sponsorship.

That's the worst/shady deal ever.

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W.O.W. 370Z · 09-09-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica

again were are your facts? which member I told that I sold a zele kit to telling it was the real one? This is just he vs she said. Facts will actually win your the argument unless you have them?!? or you just love to pick a fight?
With mike and molds of zele, facts were seen, cuz I had them and kept my proof because with out evidence, it gets you no were.

but idk weres yours at?

Liars that hide computers? most of the socal community and some vendors have seen me in person. I have no were to hide. Theres nothing to hide from.
If you have anger man theres therapy and counseling for it.

Lol. Btw the evidence u posted proved me right all along. That's why you got booted from UAM unless it was a wrongful termination.

Let me make sure it is OK to post the private messages.

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Jamaica · 09-09-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z

Not many members here with a replica Zele.

Honestly sounds like what is going on is par for the course and acceptable .

So i guess just do more homework and roll the dice.

Losers here besides the poential members dealing with questionable vendors are Japanese manufacturers that have their work stolen especially when given as sponsorship.

That's the worst/shady deal ever.

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I know who I have sold the kit to before UAM fell out. There is only two maybe three. If you can find that..and show proof that I have lied, then thats a different story.

Some people rather protect themselves and cover up there name so they will benefit the outcome. They will lie on other people even when the proof was there. Thats why i kep every conversation between that company. Rather then be honest, they lie to cover themselves up to look good.

Jamaica · 09-09-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z

Lol. Btw the evidence u posted proved me right all along. That's why you got booted from UAM unless it was a wrongful termination.

Let me make sure it is OK to post the private messages.

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AK knows that I sent him a PM requesting to leave UAM for sickness and personal reasons. He can attest to that. Got fired, booted? I signed no contract with UAM no document stated I got fired or booted or whatever.

W.O.W. 370Z · 09-09-2012, 09:03 PM

Sounds good man. Please pick up where you left off...

FYI The private messages are from a LCR sponsored car.

Let me know if you still want me to post the messages unless he is lying to about being sponsored by LCR?

Let me know.

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AK370Z · 09-09-2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z

Why do we allow problematic vendors back on our forum?

They come back under the guise of another "company"/name. Most of these companies are not state recognized corporations or business entity .

I don't know how many "Motorsports" companies have joined this forum in the last 3 months. It appears there is no vetting process in place.

As long as the vendor pays, everything else doesn't matter.

Any insight is welcome.

We don't allow problematic vendors to be back on the forum. I don't have website I can go and check their status whether they are "good" or no. If a vendor want to be part of THE370Z, I allow them. But if there's a issue with the product or whatever, I also allow member to make a post and express their problem. I let the vendor chime in, let them(buyer and vendor) come to verdict etc and then I CLOSE the thread. The member got his resolution and vendor chimed in with his offer to fix the issue - both happy.

Every vendor here had a issue here and there. There's no vendor that's "perfect". I got rid of vendor like VIPSTATUS etc as problems started to rise. But until member pm me or tell me about their issue, I wouldn't know anything. For example, you're saying

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Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z

Jamaica is back under guise of LCR.

Jamaica is back under LCR. How do you expect me to know this info if no one has informed me? did you send me a pm saying ,"kaiser, here's my evidence and I think Jamaice is back as a vendor under LCR". You didn't. I'm not a psychic. I can only take actions on things pm'ed me or posted on the forum. If you're going to assume I know everything, I don't. I'm here to look into stuff and if necessary, take appropriate action if I feel that there's enough evidence. We can always have a good pm exchange with the vendor/member/me to clear everything out but if no one tells me anything, I have no way of knowing.

Vendors pay money to run this forum. I like to have more vendors here on the forum so that I can offer more choices to my members. If there's a issue, members are welcomed to pm or make a thread and let me know what's going on. If there's a problem, I can look into it and ask the vendor to be involved or look into the issue etc. I can't just remove all the vendors because they had a issue. Stuff happens but I want vendors to follow up and fix the issue. That's what I want. Without vendors, it'll be very hard to run this forum. Please don't take offense or think the wrong way, I'm really thankful and grateful to every premium members for their contribution to the forum, but it's a small portion of what we need to run the forum. Now that I'm more involved with the forum (since I'm done school), I should be able to fix more problem or look into a vendor problem if you are having problem with any vendor.

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Why don't we have the mods set-up a vendor rating and feedback system?

I initially looked into that. But it's not very effective. It's just a fancy add on that weakens the vbulletin structure and causes problem when you need to update the forum software or whatever. I can look into other add ons. I dont know if anyone used to visit EPHATCH where they had a thread in alphabetical order with all seller, members, etc and each had a feedback(I'm gonna try to look for it). I thought it was awesome. Before you're sending your money, you check that thread and see what previous buyers/sellers said about that person/seller. It's only editable by mod so there's no bs.

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

Look I had good dealings with Andrew so I can not speak out of my terms.

What I can say to you is this:

We are all peers on this forum some of us like family. If you or a family member has something stolen would you just let it go? Would you ever want that person that done you wrong back in your home, or family members home? Doubt it...

I 100% understand where you're coming from and I agree. Do you guys really think I'm here to see any of my member get rip off? Of course not. I want you guys to have the best pricing and best selection of vendors. if there's a problem, make a thread and let me look into the issue. In the mean time, I can look into a solution to keep a track of the reviews given by the members.

PS: Jamaica and wow370z, if you guys have personal issues and are going to just attack each other, either switch to private message and solve your problem outside the forum. I'm warning you both.

Jamaica · 09-09-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT

Is it a replica? How's the fitment?

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Originally Posted by Z RATED OKC

yes it is, the fitment is great btw

the only negative was cutting my exaust tips but im gonna do quads anyways so its really not that bad

Do you mean this statement?

Martin, OKC and Arvin are the only people that have it from my understanding.

W.O.W. 370Z · 09-09-2012, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z

We don't allow problematic vendors to be back on the forum. I don't have website I can go and check their status whether they are "good" or no. If a vendor want to be part of THE370Z, I allow them. But if there's a issue with the product or whatever, I also allow member to make a post and express their problem. I let the vendor chime in, let them(buyer and vendor) come to verdict etc and then I CLOSE the thread. The member got his resolution and vendor chimed in with his offer to fix the issue - both happy.

Every vendor here had a issue here and there. There's no vendor that's "perfect". I got rid of vendor like VIPSTATUS etc as problems started to rise. But until member pm me or tell me about their issue, I wouldn't know anything. For example, you're saying

Jamaica is back under LCR. How do you expect me to know this info if no one has informed me? did you send me a pm saying ,"kaiser, here's my evidence and I think Jamaice is back as a vendor under LCR". You didn't. I'm not a psychic. I can only take actions on things pm'ed me or posted on the forum. If you're going to assume I know everything, I don't. I'm here to look into stuff and if necessary, take appropriate action if I feel that there's enough evidence. We can always have a good pm exchange with the vendor/member/me to clear everything out but if no one tells me anything, I have no way of knowing.

Vendors pay money to run this forum. I like to have more vendors here on the forum so that I can offer more choices to my members. If there's a issue, members are welcomed to pm or make a thread and let me know what's going on. If there's a problem, I can look into it and ask the vendor to be involved or look into the issue etc. I can't just remove all the vendors because they had a issue. Stuff happens but I want vendors to follow up and fix the issue. That's what I want. Without vendors, it'll be very hard to run this forum. Please don't take offense or think the wrong way, I'm really thankful and grateful to every premium members for their contribution to the forum, but it's a small portion of what we need to run the forum. Now that I'm more involved with the forum (since I'm done school), I should be able to fix more problem or look into a vendor problem if you are having problem with any vendor.

I initially looked into that. But it's not very effective. It's just a fancy add on that weakens the vbulletin structure and causes problem when you need to update the forum software or whatever. I can look into other add ons. I dont know if anyone used to visit EPHATCH where they had a thread in alphabetical order with all seller, members, etc and each had a feedback(I'm gonna try to look for it). I thought it was awesome. Before you're sending your money, you check that thread and see what previous buyers/sellers said about that person/seller. It's only editable by mod so there's no bs.

I 100% understand where you're coming from and I agree. Do you guys really think I'm here to see any of my member get rip off? Of course not. I want you guys to have the best pricing and best selection of vendors. if there's a problem, make a thread and let me look into the issue. In the mean time, I can look into a solution to keep a track of the reviews given by the members.

Thanks for the reply.

I thought his name alone would have triggered some sort of recollection for the person or persons approving vendor status especially like he said he is well known in SoCal especially a moderator here. So either he used a fake name or there really is no check in place. Is the system automated?

I feel like I am spinning my wheels. Good luck to all.

W.O.W. 370Z · 09-09-2012, 09:38 PM

AK if you don't see a problem why should I...

AK370Z · 09-09-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z

Thanks for the reply.

I thought his name alone would have triggered some sort of recollection for the person or persons approving vendor status especially like he said he is well known in SoCal especially a moderator here. So either he used a fake name or there really is no check in place. Is the system automated?

I feel like I am spinning my wheels. Good luck to all.

Yes the system is automatic but I reserve the right to remove any vendor for any or no reason. I pay for the server and I get to pick and choose who I want here on the forum. If I get a pm from you (or whoever) warning me about a potential (or new) vendor who is prior fraud or I start to see member complaints from a vendor, of course I send a pm to the vendor and ask them what's going on etc. Vendor selection, process etc are done by me only. No mods are involved in any vendor approval. So, please don't think there's any favoritism going on. If you want, you can pm me about your finding about the LCR thing and I can investigate.

W.O.W. 370Z · 09-09-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z

Yes the system is automatic but I reserve the right to remove any vendor for any or no reason. I pay for the server and I get to pick and choose who I want here on the forum. If I get a pm from you (or whoever) warning me about a potential (or new) vendor who is prior fraud or I start to see member complaints from a vendor, of course I send a pm to the vendor and ask them what's going on etc. Vendor selection, process etc are done by me only. No mods are involved in any vendor approval. So, please don't think there's any favoritism going on. If you want, you can pm me about your finding about the LCR thing and I can investigate.

You have PM.

AK370Z · 09-09-2012, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z

AK if you don't see a problem why should I...

You are assuming again. As I have said, I see the problem and I am going to look into a system or thread where we can RECORD member feedback of each transaction. This will help us know the status of a seller/vendor before sending them the money. I have ALSO said that I ENCOURAGE members to post or pm me problems or issues they are having with any vendor so that I can investigate or ask the vendor "what's the issue " etc so that I can take action.

W.O.W. 370Z · 09-09-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z

You assuming again. As I have said, I see the problem and I am going to look into a system or thread where we can RECORD member feedback of each transaction. This will help us know the status of a seller/vendor before sending them the money. I have ALSO said that I ENCOURAGE members to post or pm me problems or issues they are having with any vendor so that I can investigate or ask the vendor "what's the issue " etc so that I can take action.

And you have been very open to suggestions much more than most forums admins.

TreeSemdyZee · 09-09-2012, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Why don't we have the mods set-up a vendor rating and feedback system?

We should have that for private sellers as well.

100% agree.

AK370Z · 09-09-2012, 11:09 PM

Despite my warning last week via pm, email etc you guys are still fighting here on my forum? why is that? I made it VERY clear to take your personal problems (or all UAM stuff) outside the forum and solve it among yourselves. I DO NOT care if you guys sue or kill each other, but I will not allow this kind of childish behavior in my forum. Both of you, please use the given time off to sort things out among yourselves.

As to the topic of the thread, let me try to find out a system where we can keep a track of vendor/seller feedbacks. If it's a software or a simple thread, I feel that we need to have something.

Thanks

AK

09-09-2012, 09:03 PM	#50 (permalink)
W.O.W. 370Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Miami Posts: 1,757 Drives: 2010 Touring Sport Z Rep Power: 19	Sounds good man. Please pick up where you left off... FYI The private messages are from a LCR sponsored car. Let me know if you still want me to post the messages unless he is lying to about being sponsored by LCR? Let me know. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2 Last edited by W.O.W. 370Z; 09-09-2012 at 09:09 PM.

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