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spearfish25 09-20-2009 11:27 AM

Stillen CBE Clearance Problems Fixed?
 
What's the latest new on fitment and clearance issues with the Stillen catback? I know a few months ago there were issues with the exhaust hitting the crossmember and people were using metal hose clamps to hold up the exhaust. Then Stillen said this issue was fixed, but someone posted in late July claiming they still had a problem.

Has anyone installed the Stillen CBE lately to verify if the install was free of clearance problems?

Trips 09-20-2009 01:23 PM

I'm interested as well!

Z eliminator 09-20-2009 04:36 PM

I just put one on 2 weeks ago with berk cats and it hits the cross member. It rattles in the rear.
The stillen headers are next and we are going to have to cut the cat and realign them for a perfect fit as the headers do not fit well at all.
Hopefully every thng will work out then.

Trips 09-20-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 205922)
I just put one on 2 weeks ago with berk cats and it hits the cross member. It rattles in the rear.
The stillen headers are next and we are going to have to cut the cat and realign them for a perfect fit as the headers do not fit well at all.
Hopefully every thng will work out then.

Hey Z I saw your test results from your time at the track and good job will you be looking into some drag radials to resolve the wheel spin?
thanks for answering the rattle question.

spearfish25 09-20-2009 04:51 PM

Thanks for the reply. Taking the Stillen CBE off my list...

spearfish25 09-21-2009 08:36 PM

No one from Stillen cares to post here?

nogoodname 09-21-2009 08:43 PM

get F.I headers if you want perfect fitment

and get F.I catback... they are the best

Smallywood 09-22-2009 12:09 PM

Nismo CBE with Berk HFCs = perfection IMO...

cjof2003 09-22-2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Smallywood (Post 208283)
Nismo CBE with Berk HFCs = perfection IMO...

soundclip?

ArtVandaleigh 09-22-2009 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Smallywood (Post 208283)
Nismo CBE with Berk HFCs = perfection IMO...

Fitment is good with the Berks, not too close to any of the heatshields?

racerxj17 09-22-2009 04:45 PM

i installed my stillen and berks with NO issues, bolted it up and fit perfect. no rub against the cross member at all. no fancy tricks, just bolted it together.

Denny McLain 09-22-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by racerxj17 (Post 208643)
i installed my stillen and berks with NO issues, bolted it up and fit perfect. no rub against the cross member at all. no fancy tricks, just bolted it together.

Sounds like a craps game to me with some rolling snake eyes while others roll a seven. My personal feeling is if you take it to a muffler shop whom does it all the time, they probably know enough tricks to make it work. My other personal feeling is you shouldn't have to.

Two rounds of jacking the car up myself and two more rounds at a muffler shop cutting the rear Y-pipe in half and rewelding it back for better clearance, still hearing a funny noise and getting a vibration I can't figure out. Some of it is the tires and the road, some of it is??

Really don't know exactly what to do or if something else is creating a diversion. Anybody with other exhaust systems having any probems?

myfirstz 09-22-2009 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 205567)
What's the latest new on fitment and clearance issues with the Stillen catback? I know a few months ago there were issues with the exhaust hitting the crossmember and people were using metal hose clamps to hold up the exhaust. Then Stillen said this issue was fixed, but someone posted in late July claiming they still had a problem.

Has anyone installed the Stillen CBE lately to verify if the install was free of clearance problems?

Forged Performance installed my Stillen headers recently and I already had Stillen's CBE in place. After the header install, the exhaust sporadically hits the crossmember brace. There is very little space between the brace and the exhaust. Nevertheless, I'm going TT anyway so the exhaust, headers, etc. will have to go. Keep that in mind cause I will post them up for sale on the boards.:p

Smallywood 09-22-2009 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cjof2003 (Post 208314)
soundclip?

Check out minicobra1's clips with the exact same setup. His clips convinced me to add the berks to my Nismo CBE. I'm not sure if he's running CAIs too but I am and love my setup:

YouTube - 370Z With Nismo Catback and Berk HFC's

YouTube - 370Z Nismo Catback- Berk HFC's Launch & Mild drive by

Nismo exhaust is a perfect fit and the berks bolt on perfectly with zero fitment issues...*

Zsteve 09-22-2009 08:10 PM

That was pretty nice sounding. What other mods does he have cuz he was chirping pretty good thru the first and second gears.

Smallywood 09-22-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 209002)
That was pretty nice sounding. What other mods does he have cuz he was chirping pretty good thru the first and second gears.

Thats it. From his sig he doesn't even run CAIs. My ride is ferocious with CAIs...

6MT 09-22-2009 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 205567)
What's the latest new on fitment and clearance issues with the Stillen catback? I know a few months ago there were issues with the exhaust hitting the crossmember and people were using metal hose clamps to hold up the exhaust. Then Stillen said this issue was fixed, but someone posted in late July claiming they still had a problem.

Has anyone installed the Stillen CBE lately to verify if the install was free of clearance problems?

I have the HFC's and the CBE from Stillen. No "fitment" issues. Never had any. I installed mine in mid July. Sound and performance is fantastic.

tru_Asiatik 09-22-2009 09:17 PM

going back on topic...
last time i was at stillen i was informed problem has been fix
assuming you buy directly from stillen you should be ok(from what i was told)

now if you are buying from a third party(vendor) it is possible that they still might have an old batch in stock so who knows

axio 09-23-2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tru_Asiatik (Post 209141)
going back on topic...
last time i was at stillen i was informed problem has been fix
assuming you buy directly from stillen you should be ok(from what i was told)

now if you are buying from a third party(vendor) it is possible that they still might have an old batch in stock so who knows

Agreed. I was one of the members here who had the earlier batches of Stillen CBEs with crossmember clearance issues. I was able to work it out with Stillen and I was able to get my hands on their adjusted mid-pipe. With the current mid-pipe, the exhaust fits without any clearance issues. If you have any concerns about this, just order it directly through Stillen.

spearfish25 10-04-2009 08:31 AM

Ordered the exhaust through Stillen and it went in perfectly. No clearance issues at all. Just make sure you don't attach any of the parts upsidedown...I wonder how many people actually did that rather than have an old batch that needed tweaking.

evse82 02-03-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 221712)
Ordered the exhaust through Stillen and it went in perfectly. No clearance issues at all. Just make sure you don't attach any of the parts upsidedown...I wonder how many people actually did that rather than have an old batch that needed tweaking.

Is it possible to install it upside down? Doesn't the piping only go one way due to the flanges? ie. don't meet up correctly upside-down?

spearfish25 02-03-2010 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by evse82 (Post 387013)
Is it possible to install it upside down? Doesn't the piping only go one way due to the flanges? ie. don't meet up correctly upside-down?

Don't really know. I didn't install mine.

evse82 02-03-2010 08:05 PM

I was there when we installed mine, after mine hit the cross member I thought maybe it's upside down, so we turned it over and the flanges didn't meet up so it appeared that they could only go one way. I'm still trying to sort out a good way of fixing the knocking like 5 months after I installed it haha

spearfish25 02-04-2010 07:24 AM

Why not call Stillen. Maybe they'll ship you the new version that won't hit the crossmember. They have good customer service, and since they updated the design to fix a problem I'd guess they'd accommodate you.

evse82 02-04-2010 04:43 PM

I'm in Australia, so I doubt they'd ship it down here.

Anyone from Stillen still here? is it possible to mount it upside down?

What have other people done to solve this issue?

evse82 02-08-2010 06:38 PM

Hey guys, I'm taking my car in on Saturday to try and fix this issue, are the hose clamps (some members have done this) the best way to stop it hitting the cross member?

What have other members done to stop the knocking? cheers

spearfish25 02-08-2010 07:37 PM

Did you call Stillen?

evse82 02-08-2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 393562)
Did you call Stillen?

I sent them an email but they never got back to me. So might have to do a patch job to get it sorted up. Was thinking about the hose clamps but it's a bit of a dodgy fix

dcrew1x 02-11-2010 02:04 AM

Had my Stillen CBE exhaust installed since October 2009 and have 0 fitment issues.

Zxces50 02-11-2010 08:11 PM

Installed Stillen CBE and G3- did it myself and I have a desk job - no fitment problems at all - went in fine first time - really pretty easy and basic- sounds and feels great- can feel more power and sound is more than stock but not too much that it wears on you out on long ride-
one note on G3 -when you remove the front fascia mark the location of the metal cross member you loosen so you put it back in the same location- it is adjustible and affects allignment with hood

Portlander 02-12-2010 07:37 AM

Dealer installed my Stillen CBE last month with no fitment issues. The technician that performed the work did say it took a little extra effort to make sure the exhaust tips were perfectly centered. That's probably due to me telling him prior to the install that there were no other options! Looks great and sounds great.

370Zsteve 02-12-2010 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny McLain (Post 208679)
two more rounds at a muffler shop cutting the rear Y-pipe in half and rewelding it back for better clearance

Wow that was a mistake.

370Zsteve 02-12-2010 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by evse82 (Post 387938)
I'm in Australia, so I doubt they'd ship it down here.

Anyone from Stillen still here? is it possible to mount it upside down?

What have other people done to solve this issue?

Don't they have a presence in New Zealand?

370Zsteve 02-12-2010 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evse82 (Post 393623)
I sent them an email but they never got back to me. So might have to do a patch job to get it sorted up. Was thinking about the hose clamps but it's a bit of a dodgy fix

Emails, they do nothing!

Pick up the phone. :icon14:

Red370 02-12-2010 09:38 AM

I dont have a fitment issue, everything bolted into place, however, the muffler section doesnt look right, the right muffler tip is off centered, didnt notice it until yesterday, now its bothering the hell outta me.

Denny McLain 02-15-2010 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Denny McLain
"two more rounds at a muffler shop cutting the rear Y-pipe in half and rewelding it back for better clearance"

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 398713)
Wow that was a mistake.

I beg to ask the very pragmatic question........why was that a mistake? Called Stillen for assistance and they were absolutely worthless in support. Very glad to hear that some people have no issues. However, those who never have had issues need to recognize that they can and do exist.

Relatively handy doing my own engine building, head/intake porting and paint/body work. All the mods to my Z were done by my me including dyno tuning where I rented dyno time to do so. Have zero need to buy "canned tunes."

My Corvette won "best in class" at the 2007 Dallas Autorama with me painting the car doing all the restoration down to replacing the carpet and engine detailing. Currently in the mid-winter process of restoring a 1964 Chevy Impala SS cutting out the floorboards and welding new ones back in myself. After that, I'll finish out the interior and them repaint the car in the spring. It should look like new and I plan on doing some local shows. Oh yes, I'm replacing the rusted exhaust system with a new one.

The Stillen exhaust was not properly manufactured, needed to be fixed, have the experience to realize when something needs to be done and I fixed it. End of story.

So.......tell me how that was a mistake. What should I have done?........let it hit the cross member and put my head in the sand? Deny there wasn't an issue?

Curious minds want to know.

Daishi 02-15-2010 08:29 AM

Goes to show you. Dont even bother with stillen. Thats like one of the most important things. fitment. they sell you stuff at a premium but they fit like cheap ebay parts lol.

Denny McLain 02-16-2010 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Daishi (Post 402177)
Goes to show you. Dont even bother with stillen. Thats like one of the most important things. fitment. they sell you stuff at a premium but they fit like cheap ebay parts lol.

For years and years, been a fan of the Millen's cheering them on in their racing efforts. Stillen in my opinion represented a tradition of winning performance. However, up to owning the 370; had never purchased anything from the company.

It was with zero hesitation and grateful anticipation that I placed my first order with them. As a result of mediocre product quality, repeated problems and very poor customer support, I've washed my hands from every doing business with them.

Busted my bubble as I truly expected better.

Z eliminator 02-19-2010 08:16 PM

MIne hits the cross member and I am installing the headers next week.
after the headers ,cats and CBE are installed im off to the local high performance exhuast shop to get it fixed.

Mike 02-20-2010 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 408576)
MIne hits the cross member and I am installing the headers next week.
after the headers ,cats and CBE are installed im off to the local high performance exhuast shop to get it fixed.

4 thick washers between the crossmember and pipe is all it takes to fix it cheap and easy.


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