2014 NFL Thread

[JARblue]

I think Houston should trade their #1 pick if they can get a good deal for it. I'm not really up to speed on which teams might be trading up. Houston picking #1 = FAIL

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by JARblue

I think Houston should trade their #1 pick if they can get a good deal for it. I'm not really up to speed on which teams might be trading up. Houston picking #1 = FAIL

Not really. They're 1 for 2. Carr sucked, but he also got PTSD from getting hit one step into a three step drop on every single passing play for five years. We broke Carr. In an alternate universe where he was kept upright, he could have been mediocre.

Mario was the best pick out of the top three that year. Would we have rather had Vince Young or Reggie Bush? Mediocre running back or poster child for "How not to succeed in the NFL and at life"? Mario did fine, and he did pretty well in Buffalo after his wrist got operated on. Was he worth $100 mil? Hell no.

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Not really. They're 1 for 2. Carr sucked, but he also got PTSD from getting hit one step into a three step drop on every single passing play for five years. We broke Carr. In an alternate universe where he was kept upright, he could have been mediocre.

Mario was the best pick out of the top three that year. Would we have rather had Vince Young or Reggie Bush? Mediocre running back or poster child for "How not to succeed in the NFL and at life"? Mario did fine, and he did pretty well in Buffalo after his wrist got operated on. Was he worth $100 mil? Hell no.

Houston is 0 for 2 IMO. Williams' first few years were an acceptable performance for an overall #1 draft pick. Since 2009 he's been pretty unspectacular. Overpaid for sure.

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by JARblue

Houston is 0 for 2 IMO. Williams' first few years were an acceptable performance for an overall #1 draft pick. Since 2009 he's been pretty unspectacular. Overpaid for sure.

He was hurt pretty much the whole time, wasn't he? The full seasons he had were all double digit sacks, he just couldn't stay healthy if I'm remembering correctly.

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

He was hurt pretty much the whole time, wasn't he? The full seasons he had were all double digit sacks, he just couldn't stay healthy if I'm remembering correctly.

I think he was lost for the season starting in 2010. In 2009 he missed a few games, but the team actually had better defensive stats with him off the roster that year.

I'm not saying the guy wasn't good or isn't still good. I think I'm trying to say that he didn't perform adequately for Houston considering his draft status. Then again... how many #1 overall picks live up to the hype. Jamarcus Russell? Sam Bradford?

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by JARblue

I think he was lost for the season starting in 2010. In 2009 he missed a few games, but the team actually had better defensive stats with him off the roster that year.

I'm not saying the guy wasn't good or isn't still good. I think I'm trying to say that he didn't perform adequately for Houston considering his draft status. Then again... how many #1 overall picks live up to the hype. Jamarcus Russell? Sam Bradford?

The #1 pick is pretty much a death sentence. Luck has had a couple good years, but before that I'm trying to remember the last guy who was really worth the money. Peyton?

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The #1 pick is pretty much a death sentence. Luck has had a couple good years, but before that I'm trying to remember the last guy who was really worth the money. Peyton?

That would be my answer. Peyton has 11 Pro Bowls. Vick and Jake Long have 4. Eli and Williams have 3. Cam has 2 and some potential, but the jury is still out IMO. Luck has one but is in the same boat as Cam.

[Red__Zed]

Lot of big moves happening this offseason.