the 370Z.com OFFICIAL football (soccer) thread

cow · 11-26-2011, 09:41 AM

I'll take him.

cow · 11-26-2011, 09:43 AM

Watching BVB vs Schalke. I love watching Bundesliga, but I wish there were two commentary guys. Hearing the one guy-- who does a good job-- by himself is always a little uncomfortable.

I also wish the commentator was AT the match. You can tell by the muted crowd noise that he's in a studio.

cow · 11-26-2011, 10:15 AM

Also, Moritz Leitner of Dortmund spends too much time in the tanning bed. He's a really unnatural color.

Red370 · 11-27-2011, 08:04 AM

holy fvcking shyt man, one of the greats..tragic.

Wales boss Gary Speed dies aged 42 - ESPN Soccernet

bigsix · 11-27-2011, 08:49 AM

a sad death

cow · 11-27-2011, 06:47 PM

Gary Speed's death really bums me. I never was a Newcastle fan, but they were good when I started watching the EPL & were on a lot, so I always kind of liked him as a player (mostly for his neat name).

I was excited to see what Wales would do in World Cup Qualifying as they were looking an exciting outfit under his guidance.

phelan · 11-27-2011, 08:15 PM

apparent suicide. tragic loss. wales were coming together under his guidance, but football takes a back seat now. just terrible loss.

watching swansea aston villa highlights is really hard, given just looks absolutely shattered.

cow · 11-28-2011, 12:27 AM

It's just so sad.

:-/

Red370 · 11-28-2011, 01:07 AM

GS always struck me as a clean/honorable player, he was Newcastles talisman in the midfield, one of the most noteable names to ever put on the shirt and a legend at St. James, its tragic for a player to die, but even moreso when its done by his own hands, he must've had some inner demons that nobody could see. Even worse, he had a wife and two children.

cow · 11-28-2011, 09:21 AM

From what I remember of him as a player, he seemed mentally strong, one who could lift his team by its neck & win a game late. & yet, this.

It makes me want to make sure I don't tell people who seem down in the dumps to "suck it up," y'know? If someone who appeared so strong can be that depressed....

yeah....

Red370 · 11-28-2011, 10:25 AM

Dortmund star only wants Arsenal or Barca move | gunnersphere.com

Barca already has a wealth of skilled midfielders, they wont pay 30 mil for him. I'd say AW needs to break the bank and toss 40 at Dortmund in January. They seem to be fighting tooth and nail to keep him. The kid is only 19, imagine how much more he'll develop playing for us, could become one of the worlds best in a few years. Only downside would be the fact that he's cup tied, but damn I want this kid at Arsenal, moreso than Hazard because he's a winger and we have enough of them. He'd be a natural replacement for Arteta who'll probably be retiring within the next 3-5 years.

phelan · 11-28-2011, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cow

From what I remember of him as a player, he seemed mentally strong, one who could lift his team by its neck & win a game late. & yet, this.

It makes me want to make sure I don't tell people who seem down in the dumps to "suck it up," y'know? If someone who appeared so strong can be that depressed....

yeah....

It sounds like a lot of people close to Speed knew he was fighting personal demons. Shame to see him go like that, but a friend of mine noted how at least it's making people aware of depression in sports.

I read an article somewhere that Speed hanged himself because a tabloid was about to print a fairly personal article about him. Kind of makes me sick that the media has enough power to a good man to the ground like this.

cow · 11-28-2011, 11:36 AM

There's been a few fairly high profile suicides in recent years, most notably Robert Enke & a retired Italian keeper whose name escapes me (jumped out a window-- I can't remember whether he died, though). Maybe Speed's death will help bring some light to a terrible disease-- the media, & especially the English one, tends to ignore just about everything happening outside the UK. One would think a high profile athlete like Enke's death would have gotten more press, but it was kind of a footnote.

cow · 11-28-2011, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370

Dortmund star only wants Arsenal or Barca move | gunnersphere.com

Barca already has a wealth of skilled midfielders, they wont pay 30 mil for him. I'd say AW needs to break the bank and toss 40 at Dortmund in January. They seem to be fighting tooth and nail to keep him. The kid is only 19, imagine how much more he'll develop playing for us, could become one of the worlds best in a few years. Only downside would be the fact that he's cup tied, but damn I want this kid at Arsenal, moreso than Hazard because he's a winger and we have enough of them. He'd be a natural replacement for Arteta who'll probably be retiring within the next 3-5 years.

I'll give AFC $20 to get Goetze.

This piece came out a few days ago, though:
Mario Gotze speculation must stop, says Dortmund chief - ESPN Soccernet

bigsix · 11-28-2011, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370

Dortmund star only wants Arsenal or Barca move | gunnersphere.com

Barca already has a wealth of skilled midfielders, they wont pay 30 mil for him. I'd say AW needs to break the bank and toss 40 at Dortmund in January. They seem to be fighting tooth and nail to keep him. The kid is only 19, imagine how much more he'll develop playing for us, could become one of the worlds best in a few years. Only downside would be the fact that he's cup tied, but damn I want this kid at Arsenal, moreso than Hazard because he's a winger and we have enough of them. He'd be a natural replacement for Arteta who'll probably be retiring within the next 3-5 years.

I don't see Arteta staying at Arsenal long-term, but you really think he's going to retire so soon ?

11-27-2011, 08:04 AM	#3814 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	holy fvcking shyt man, one of the greats..tragic. Wales boss Gary Speed dies aged 42 - ESPN Soccernet __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

11-27-2011, 08:15 PM	#3817 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3406	apparent suicide. tragic loss. wales were coming together under his guidance, but football takes a back seat now. just terrible loss. watching swansea aston villa highlights is really hard, given just looks absolutely shattered. __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

11-28-2011, 01:07 AM	#3819 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	GS always struck me as a clean/honorable player, he was Newcastles talisman in the midfield, one of the most noteable names to ever put on the shirt and a legend at St. James, its tragic for a player to die, but even moreso when its done by his own hands, he must've had some inner demons that nobody could see. Even worse, he had a wife and two children. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs Last edited by Red370; 11-28-2011 at 01:12 AM.

11-28-2011, 10:25 AM	#3821 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	Dortmund star only wants Arsenal or Barca move \| gunnersphere.com Barca already has a wealth of skilled midfielders, they wont pay 30 mil for him. I'd say AW needs to break the bank and toss 40 at Dortmund in January. They seem to be fighting tooth and nail to keep him. The kid is only 19, imagine how much more he'll develop playing for us, could become one of the worlds best in a few years. Only downside would be the fact that he's cup tied, but damn I want this kid at Arsenal, moreso than Hazard because he's a winger and we have enough of them. He'd be a natural replacement for Arteta who'll probably be retiring within the next 3-5 years. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

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11-26-2011, 09:41 AM	#3811 (permalink)
cow Lounge Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,441 Drives: Toyota Avalon Rep Power: 268	I'll take him.

11-26-2011, 09:43 AM	#3812 (permalink)
cow Lounge Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,441 Drives: Toyota Avalon Rep Power: 268	Watching BVB vs Schalke. I love watching Bundesliga, but I wish there were two commentary guys. Hearing the one guy-- who does a good job-- by himself is always a little uncomfortable. I also wish the commentator was AT the match. You can tell by the muted crowd noise that he's in a studio.

11-26-2011, 10:15 AM	#3813 (permalink)
cow Lounge Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,441 Drives: Toyota Avalon Rep Power: 268	Also, Moritz Leitner of Dortmund spends too much time in the tanning bed. He's a really unnatural color.

11-27-2011, 08:49 AM	#3815 (permalink)
bigsix A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,227 Drives: Honda City/Mazda 2 Rep Power: 19	a sad death

11-27-2011, 06:47 PM	#3816 (permalink)
cow Lounge Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,441 Drives: Toyota Avalon Rep Power: 268	Gary Speed's death really bums me. I never was a Newcastle fan, but they were good when I started watching the EPL & were on a lot, so I always kind of liked him as a player (mostly for his neat name). I was excited to see what Wales would do in World Cup Qualifying as they were looking an exciting outfit under his guidance.

11-28-2011, 12:27 AM	#3818 (permalink)
cow Lounge Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,441 Drives: Toyota Avalon Rep Power: 268	It's just so sad. :-/

11-28-2011, 09:21 AM	#3820 (permalink)
cow Lounge Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,441 Drives: Toyota Avalon Rep Power: 268	From what I remember of him as a player, he seemed mentally strong, one who could lift his team by its neck & win a game late. & yet, this. It makes me want to make sure I don't tell people who seem down in the dumps to "suck it up," y'know? If someone who appeared so strong can be that depressed.... yeah....

11-28-2011, 11:36 AM	#3823 (permalink)
cow Lounge Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,441 Drives: Toyota Avalon Rep Power: 268	There's been a few fairly high profile suicides in recent years, most notably Robert Enke & a retired Italian keeper whose name escapes me (jumped out a window-- I can't remember whether he died, though). Maybe Speed's death will help bring some light to a terrible disease-- the media, & especially the English one, tends to ignore just about everything happening outside the UK. One would think a high profile athlete like Enke's death would have gotten more press, but it was kind of a footnote.