the 370Z.com OFFICIAL football (soccer) thread

[shadoquad]

thx, red and phelan. I kinda figured that.

Sorry for the derail, folks. I don't know enough about pro footy to hold my own in this room for very long. lol

[phelan]

don't need to. just read up on arsenal FC and you'll be fine in here

[Red370]

Ok gentlemen, i'm in a bit of a bind.. New fall season is about to begin and I'm in the market for some new boots. I'm torn between the new Predators and the new Puma Kings. I've never owned Preds, so I dont know how they fit, I have really narrow feet, i'm not sure how wide they fit. The Kings are my tried and true faves, what do yall think? Synthetic material uppers are completely out of the question, Roo leather or GTFO.

These...


or these...

[phelan]

stick with the pumas imo. then again i haven't bought boots in a while.

[Red370]

Originally Posted by phelan

stick with the pumas imo. then again i haven't bought boots in a while.

i'm leaning that way, but i have a friend in Germany that keeps raving about how that predator material actually does help you get more spin on the ball, i'm not one to buy into the hype, but i'll probably be the primary free kick taker again and I'd love any help I can get! And BTW, the Preds are selling for $100 off msrp, thats actually making it sound sweeter as well...

[cow]

After switching to high end synthetic, I prefer it to leather. It doesn't wear down & from the beginning feels like kanga leather does after a season.

Regarding the question about balls, fewer panels on the ball equates to more aerodynamics which equates (in theory) to more goals.

I'm at sea level, so not affected as much, but I really like the Jabulani.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by cow

Regarding the question about balls, fewer panels on the ball equates to more aerodynamics which equates (in theory) to more goals.

I'm at sea level, so not affected as much, but I really like the Jabulani.

So would it upset you if they reverted to that model?

Side question, do you follow the theory that "More goals = better game"?

[phelan]

More goals = better game FOR THE CASUAL VIEWER. I think to get soccer to really expand, they need any help they can get. And yes, the game on the surface is much more exciting if the goals are flowing.

To veterans I think we can appreciate low scoring games, but FIFA is trying to bring in fresh blood.

[Red370]

Originally Posted by cow

After switching to high end synthetic, I prefer it to leather. It doesn't wear down & from the beginning feels like kanga leather does after a season.

Regarding the question about balls, fewer panels on the ball equates to more aerodynamics which equates (in theory) to more goals.

I'm at sea level, so not affected as much, but I really like the Jabulani.

I had the nike vapors for awhile and some microfiber Lottos, i didnt like the fact that the material didnt conform to my foot, Roo leather just feels more comfortable to me. As far as the wear is concerned, I use Roo Goo after every match, i have a pair of Copas that have lasted me 8 seasons Also probably helps that I dont get trampled on as much as you defender/midfielder types do either

As far as goals, the American public is used to watching high scoring basketball games, football games, baseball games, whatever, and when they see a sport much like hockey that results in even fewer goals, the attention span just isnt there. So in that respect, more goals I think, would make the game more attractive to the casual American viewer.

My personal opinion, while I love seeing a boatload of goals, I also love watching a game thats back and forth, battles being fought all over the pitch, nears misses, it just makes the game more intriguing to me, nothin beats a good ol' fashioned ManUre-Arsenal game.

As far as goal scoring is concerned personally... I scored 7 two weeks ago against a team that we beat 13-0 Nothin beats it.

[shadoquad]

Hey, that USA-Algeria Tilt this year was awesome, considering the Brits had already punched their tickets and USA was OUT until Donovan in stoppage time.

That drama is lacking in a high-scoring atmosphere, imo. 1-0 games

I dunno. Personally, I love D. I grew up playing defense in every sport I could. I hate how rules have been twisted in many pro sports to bring about more scoring and bring in the casual viewer, all so that some ESPN anchor will blather about it for 5 seconds in between hour-long specials on where LeBron's gonna play.

Sorry, I'm a spiteful cuss.

[phelan]

^ wtf hahahaha

but i agree, defense is fun for me, even if it makes the game not pretty to watch. even when i play basketball, i pride myself on being the best damn defender on the floor.

just in my league, i'm apparently also the best offensive player on the floor 90% of the time

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by phelan

^ wtf hahahaha

sorry, I believe that "moar goalz do not imply better sportz"

I just ranted nonsensically to say as much.

[phelan]

and shado i updated my post right after that

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by phelan

and shado i updated my post right after that

I just noticed you're elite. Wow, I'm swift

[cow]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

So would it upset you if they reverted to that model?

Side question, do you follow the theory that "More goals = better game"?

I wouldn't care, really. I'll be happy as long as I get to play.

On the side note, I play goalkeeper, so in general, I think more goals scored by my team = better game. Kidding aside, though, I agree with everything said-- the World Cup final was a great match despite its being 0-0 until the 117th minute. I'm not a casual fan, but if I stumble across a match with teams I don't care about, I'd prefer to see goals, but I appreciate the beauty of a 1-0 tilt*.


*as long as both teams are trying to score & are playing positively, but happen to cancel each other (as opposed to catenaccio trash)