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molamann 07-28-2009 07:51 PM

OMG, Fedor finalizing deal with UFC!!!
 
Fedor Emelianenko, UFC finalizing deal | The Fabulous Forum | Los Angeles Times

*jizz in my pants*

CrownR426 07-28-2009 07:57 PM

Brock, you goin down boiiii!

GMZ 07-28-2009 08:48 PM

This should be good

edeeZee 07-28-2009 09:00 PM

Awwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhh shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeett! If this does come about, the final nail will be hammered in the coffin to see if Fedor is absolutely the best!

Pride v. UFC will be squashed once and for all.

molamann 07-28-2009 09:28 PM

Uh oh

M-1 Global says Fedor, UFC not close to a deal - SI.com - Mixed Martial Arts

edeeZee 07-29-2009 12:09 AM

too good to be true. I think Fedor is the 21st cent. Rickson.

sloterg 07-29-2009 10:07 AM

either way in my opinion brock would handle, it would be a great fight nonetheless

edeeZee 07-29-2009 04:37 PM

Brock would get pwned by Fedor.

Anyway, M-1, the Russian MMA promo wants UFC to partner up if Fedor is going to fight in a UFC event. I'd tell them politely to take a hike. It took years of blood, sweat and tears for UFC to get where it is now; and M-1, a relatively obscure promo, is trying ride UFC's coattail. M-1 thinks that Fedor's participation is going to make or break it for UFC...yeah right. Nobody is dumb enough to dilute what they've already built up as successful, and then, to let some no-name entity try to experience the success they didn't contribute to. This is the classic case of no-name, obscure gold-digger meets rich, famous guy and tries to take him for a ride a la Anna Nicole Smith.

M-1: No Fedor in UFC Without Co-Promoting

MC 07-31-2009 02:36 PM

no fedor deal it looks like but UFC did announce ..................


tito ortiz today

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3300/...135418b20a.jpg



oh and belfort vs franklin instead of hendo

Chupacabra 07-31-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloterg (Post 129781)
either way in my opinion brock would handle, it would be a great fight nonetheless


i agree with you... I have seen Fedor fights and a although the man can take a beating that's for sure.. brock is a mountain. its like going up to Mount Everest and trying to kick its ***.

CrownR426 07-31-2009 03:32 PM

Pride has different rules compared to UFC.
I think that Fedor is afraid of losing his rep. as the #1 Fighter in the world.
UFC allows the elbows and kness while Pride does not.
He's going to have to re-set his fighting style and learn how to adapt to using the elbows and knees before he signs those papers.

molamann 07-31-2009 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 132276)
Pride has different rules compared to UFC.
I think that Fedor is afraid of losing his rep. as the #1 Fighter in the world.
UFC allows the elbows and kness while Pride does not.
He's going to have to re-set his fighting style and learn how to adapt to using the elbows and knees before he signs those papers.

Yes, cage and the ring has its differences(Pride did allow knees, they even allowed soccer kicks...) but that's not the main reason why Fedor is not signing with the UFC. UFC likes to have very exclusive rights to their fighters meaning they can't fight anywhere else(even national Sambo tournaments where Fedor has been attending every year,) nor endorse products without the consent of the UFC. $5mil per fight might sound like a big deal but Fedor is worth a lot more than that, not to mention half the UFC fighters are underpaid.

@Chupacabra
Only way Fedor will lose is if he gets caught.

Chupacabra 07-31-2009 07:00 PM

molamann, I agree completely. and that is why i say that. I believe in fedors ability and the man can take a beating. but brock is made of rock, he dude just does not seem to get hurt, and for his size he is quick as hell..

i guess some day we will find out.

sloterg 07-31-2009 07:14 PM

haha ever since the first fight i knew brock was done losing.. ive been following brock through out his ufc career, although short, since the begining i been rooting for him, and never once has he let me down. that first fight with frank mir was a loss becuz he got confident too fast, and ever since that first fight hes learned what not to do. right now IMO no one can stand in brock lesnar's way, plain and simple.

CBRich 07-31-2009 09:12 PM

M-1 hates me. They hate us all. What else would explain this?

MC 07-31-2009 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 132478)
M-1 hates me. They hate us all. What else would explain this?

i was watching inside MMA tonight and they basically explained as fedor has a financial interest in M-1 and it something he sees as his future beyond his fighting career. ( i guess he has some sort of part ownership maybe?) so he isnt going to fight for an organization where M-1 cannot be co promoted. UFC is like all the co promotion would do is build up M-1 and wouldnt offer anything in return for UFC. so thats the main sticking point, Fedor isnt gonna fight under any organization where the M-1 brand that like i said he has some sort of stake in is not promoted


so it looks like a impassable road block for the moment, i dont think it has anything to do with oh fedor is dodging UFC or certain rules or trying to preserve his untarnished name.



i was thinking why cant they just do a 1 fight deal? but then i mean could it be for the UFC title? what if he wins? that means more fights and more M-1 promotion. i think dana white doesnt want them to leech on to the UFC and possibly become more of a control issue the longer fedor stays in UFC

CBRich 07-31-2009 10:31 PM

That's exactly right. Fedor does have a financial stake in M-1. And the UFC refuses to co-promote with them. And for that I can not blame the UFC.

MC 08-01-2009 03:49 AM

nail in coffin


lol he can go fight sambo every thursday if he wants.... i love dana!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6X1TdAp_hs

CBRich 08-01-2009 08:28 AM

I have to say I'm with Dana on this one. From the rumors I heard he did everything he could to make it happen. I've been a fan of Fedor but I don't want to hear anybody say anything about how good he is until he puts up.

sloterg 08-01-2009 10:42 AM

:iagree:

edeeZee 08-03-2009 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molamann (Post 132329)
Yes, cage and the ring has its differences(Pride did allow knees, they even allowed soccer kicks...) but that's not the main reason why Fedor is not signing with the UFC. UFC likes to have very exclusive rights to their fighters meaning they can't fight anywhere else(even national Sambo tournaments where Fedor has been attending every year,) nor endorse products without the consent of the UFC. $5mil per fight might sound like a big deal but Fedor is worth a lot more than that, not to mention half the UFC fighters are underpaid.

@Chupacabra
Only way Fedor will lose is if he gets caught.


I've been into MMA since '95. I watched UFC (the first NHB event) and Pride since its inception, 1997. I wrestled in high school, then transitioned to BJJ, then Thai boxing. I'm not a casual fan to let you know.

Nobody knows for certain why Fedor is dodging the UFC...but my guess is that he's doing it for money reasons. The Gracies, especially Rickson, Frank Shamrock and a few other fighters played their little game of perpetuating an invincible aura while artificially raising their stock price. Fedor is nowhere near worth $5M per fight. I won't delve into this, but UFC (the biggest--revenue and popularity--wise) MMA promo cannot afford to drop that kind of money per fight on 1 fighter.

I wished I saved the link, but it was one in which Dana White explained why UFC fighters' pay is commensurate to what the financial figures give off. He explained why UFC cannot afford to pay "pro boxing" level money to its marquee fighters. He broke down revenue, recurring expenses, liabilities, sponsors, etc., and it all made sense. UFC does not underpay its fighters. Besides, nobody is putting a gun to their heads to fight. That's why Tito is running back because he can't get the kind of money he "deserves."

MC 08-03-2009 02:11 PM

Fedor signs with Strikeforce, will fight this fall - Cagewriter - Mixed Martial Arts - Yahoo! Sports


Well. This certainly changes things, doesn't it? Fedor Emelianenko, the number two fighter in Yahoo's pound-for-pound rankings, and the subject of contentious negotiations with the UFC, has now signed with Strikeforce. From the Strikeforce press release:

“I am looking forward to going back to work and fighting at the highest level," said the 33-year-old Emelianenko. During his nine year professional fight career, which included a four and a half year stay with the world’s former top MMA promotion, the now defunct PRIDE Fighting Championship, the Russian native has faced and defeated all comers.

The good: Fedor will fight soon, and he will fight on Showtime, more widely available to average American MMA fans than a pay-per-view. This will definitely bolster Strikeforce's reputation as a promotion as their willingness to co-promote with M-1 means that they beat out the UFC on getting Fedor. Co-promotion was a sticking point with Fedor and the UFC, as the UFC was willing to give Fedor every demand except for that one. This could also help Strikeforce attract up-and-coming heavyweights, as it seems everyone wants a shot at Fedor.

The bad: In Strikeforce, Fedor will likely face Alistair Overeem, Fabricio Werdum or Brett Rogers. As an MMA fan, I know that they are formidable opponents. But those names do nothing to rouse the interest of a casual fan, and any fight that Strikeforce can make will not get anywhere near the buzz as Fedor vs. Brock Lesnar would have.

CBRich 08-03-2009 06:35 PM

Great. So we'll get to see Fedor and Brett Rogers. Yay. </sarcasm>

second_2_nun 08-03-2009 06:47 PM

epic fail on fedor

MC 08-03-2009 07:39 PM

yup he is gonna run through all the strikeforce guys and maintain his unbeatable image and there will always be a "what if" * beside his name

edeeZee 08-03-2009 07:57 PM

The old 'Ricksonitis' or 'Frank Shamrock' deal is going on--cherry picking opponents, or pitting yourself against no-namers and demanding big money.

Allistair isn't a no-namer though, that boy can some drop bombs.

CBRich 08-03-2009 08:10 PM

Ha! Overeem. Would love to see him pass a CSAC test. Size is not an indicator of HGH or steroid use, BUT growth of the jaw and brow are.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1249348145

MC 08-03-2009 08:20 PM

i swear i havent seen the poor guy fight in like 2 years

sloterg 08-05-2009 12:12 AM

[QUOTE=CBRich;136606]Ha! Overeem. Would love to see him pass a CSAC test. Size is not an indicator of HGH or steroid use, BUT growth of the jaw and brow are.

true.. but when u exercise and train constantly ur body develops more hormones. so yeah he could be taking steroids or hes just a maniac in the gym (gym= place of weight lifting or place to train)

molamann 08-05-2009 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 136606)
Ha! Overeem. Would love to see him pass a CSAC test. Size is not an indicator of HGH or steroid use, BUT growth of the jaw and brow are.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1249348145

Like the time when he fought Paul Buentello in Strikeforce? :confused:

armensti 08-05-2009 01:33 AM

his gonna destroy everyone

JungleB 08-08-2009 08:33 PM

Does anyone know how long Lesnar is contractually obligated to stay with the UFC? There's always the possibility that he could bail on the UFC to go after Fedor in M-1. I don't think Brock is in this entirely for the money, he may also want to prove he's the best and he wants the challenge.

As for the fight I'll have to say Brock will take it. Wrestling seems to be the superior mma discipline.

molamann 08-08-2009 09:10 PM

bj penn - bjj | gsp - kyokushin karate | spider- mt | machida - karate. no other champ is a wrestler. p.s - cant seem to "enter" on my phone.

MC 08-26-2009 07:58 PM

showtime announced he would be fighting Brett rodgers as his first strikeforce opponent i i think in november ( no coincidence thats why UFC is gonna have brock fight in november aswell) im happy with this pick given the choices.. i think it makes for the most fireworks. rodgers is a one trick pony but its been a pretty good trick so far. which means 96% he is gonna get horribly knocked out trying to bumrush fedor. but 4% chance he catches fedor like he successfully did against arloski in their 7 sec fight..... . this is better than the rumored ricco rodriguez which would have been a joke. werdum's name was tossed around too and i think he would be last the longest with fedor out of those names its sure wouldnt be as entertaining as rodgers trying to throw a haymaker ar fedor..

CBRich 08-27-2009 04:18 PM

This will be a fight that is interesting to watch in the same way it's interesting to watch Fedor fight Hong Man Choi.


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