2013 NFL Thread

[Nismo89]

Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ

and my Jets will make the playoffs this year

[LMBmikeZ]

I think RGIII is going to be the next Vince Young

Decent QB but nothing special, good speed, good athletic ability and good size. But he is not going to go anywhere IMO. I think we will see him do the bounce around from team to team in a few years and then fade out and end his career accomplishing nothing just like Vince Young's NFL career

[dmhenderson]

I wouldn't go relegating him to the scrapheap because of one bad half of a game coming off of major surgery but that's just me.

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by dmhenderson

I wouldn't go relegating him to the scrapheap because of one bad half of a game coming off of major surgery but that's just me.

Especially since he didn't play at all in training camp.

[LMBmikeZ]

Originally Posted by dmhenderson

I wouldn't go relegating him to the scrapheap because of one bad half of a game coming off of major surgery but that's just me.

last year he was no where near the hype either though

I find the QBs that play that style tend to have very short hot spurts then dye out. I think Vick is the only exception who has been able to put up numbers year after year playing that style. That's why I don't see RG3 going anywhere, not to mention he is and will be injury prone already.

Rookie + knee braces already = short career and wheel chairs later in life

[LMBmikeZ]

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Especially since he didn't play at all in training camp.

that is Washington's own stupidity, they should have gave him a few reps even if it was just 1 quarter one or two times in the preseason.

He looked bad in the opening

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ

that is Washington's own stupidity, they should have gave him a few reps even if it was just 1 quarter one or two times in the preseason.

He looked bad in the opening

He didn't get medically cleared to play in any game till a couple days before the season started so it's definitely not Washington's stupidity. Besides, he got them to within 6 pts of winning so I think it still went pretty well.

[LMBmikeZ]

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

He didn't get medically cleared to play in any game till a couple days before the season started so it's definitely not Washington's stupidity. Besides, he got them to within 6 pts of winning so I think it still went pretty well.

mah........


we will see how he does against Green Bay and Detroit over the next 2 weeks

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ

last year he was no where near the hype either though

I find the QBs that play that style tend to have very short hot spurts then dye out. I think Vick is the only exception who has been able to put up numbers year after year playing that style. That's why I don't see RG3 going anywhere, not to mention he is and will be injury prone already.

Rookie + knee braces already = short career and wheel chairs later in life

It definitely depends on whether or not they can adjust to be a more traditional drop back passer. There's nothing wrong with making plays with your feet as a QB, but you can't rely on that as your primary weapon. If you can be a great dropback passer and still make occasional plays on your feet, then you can be successful for a number of years. Aaron Rodgers is a good example of this. The sophomore QB's this year have the ability to do that as well. Kaepernick looks like he's there already. As far as I remember, I don't think Russell Wilson took too many big hits last season. Andrew Luck has been running for his life behind the Colts' crappy O line, but he can be a great traditional passer. RG3 I think needs more work in this and hopefully it will develop as he gets more playtime and experience.

[LMBmikeZ]

good points

I am just not sure RG3 wants to be a drop back passer

so far I think Kaepernick is the best QB to come up for some time now

[b1adesofcha0s]

I don't think he'll have much of a choice in the long term. Whether he learns that the easy way or the hard way is up to him and Shanahan. Definitely agree with you about Kaepernick. He could be the next Aaron Rodgers and possibly even more dangerous later on in his career.

[Haboob]

RGIII was favoring his leg. Afraid to step up and throw, hesitant to run.

They looked really bad last night, regardless of the "come back". That was more of the Eagles tiring themselves out - that Chip Kelly offense won't last very long, unfortunately. It was fun to watch, but I hope they all die (NFC East rivals).

I turned the SD v. Houston game off at half and went to bed. SD was controlling the entire game. Except for the second half I heard.

[dmhenderson]

Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ

last year he was no where near the hype either though

I find the QBs that play that style tend to have very short hot spurts then dye out. I think Vick is the only exception who has been able to put up numbers year after year playing that style. That's why I don't see RG3 going anywhere, not to mention he is and will be injury prone already.

Rookie + knee braces already = short career and wheel chairs later in life

Rookie QBs transition their play style to fit the offense. He doesn't need to be scrambling or running QB draws every other down to be effective. He's a solid pocket passer (shown last night in the 2nd half) with a great arm who has the added bonus of being mobile.

As for the injury, Tom Brady had a complete ACL/MCL tear in 2009 and has "done ok" for himself since then and Peyton Manning has a robot neck.

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by Haboob

I turned the SD v. Houston game off at half and went to bed. SD was controlling the entire game. Except for the second half I heard.

I tapped out after the first SD score in the 3rd. Woke up and checked the score and was shocked. Looks like the Texans defense finally knocked the rust off. Or the problem with the Chargers wasn't Norv.

[dmhenderson]

Originally Posted by Haboob

RGIII was favoring his leg. Afraid to step up and throw, hesitant to run.

They looked really bad last night, regardless of the "come back". That was more of the Eagles tiring themselves out - that Chip Kelly offense won't last very long, unfortunately. It was fun to watch, but I hope they all die (NFC East rivals).

I turned the SD v. Houston game off at half and went to bed. SD was controlling the entire game. Except for the second half I heard.

You aren't giving enough credit to the halftime adjustments made on defense. Remember that no one had seen Kelly's offense run in the NFL before so the Redskins had no idea what to expect.