Ufc 100

CBRich · 07-12-2009, 04:41 PM

You do NOT stop striking or cranking down a submission until told to stop by the referee. Hendo immediately got off of Bisping when instructed to so no foul there.

Lesnar is an idiot but it's hard to think of anyone beating him. And that hurts me to say.

GSP always makes guys look bad. It's even worse when the opponent's strength is listed as "good takedown defense" and he ends up on his back over half the fight. Give him about 9-10 months to beef up a bit and then let him try out 185 against someone like Leben before talking about Silva.

Great night of fights and even better when preceded by the Top 100 Fights show.

edeeZee · 07-12-2009, 04:44 PM

Lesnar will get owned by Fedor or Josh Barnett.

GSP will get tooled by Anderson Silva if they ever meet.

MC · 07-12-2009, 11:20 PM

i wish bobby lashley had the skills to take him down. but i think he still needs a good year of substantial fights to build a soild foundation.

between shane carwin and cain valesquez which one do you guys think has the better chance. to me carwin has some of the hardest G and P out there but cain seemed to pretty much manhandle congo on the ground. only problem was congo was beating his *** on stand up, i think brock would KO him.

CBRich · 07-13-2009, 09:06 AM

I also think Cain's stand up is too weak. And taking an opponent down and controlling him does count for a lot but Cain didn't even come close to finishing Kongo on the ground. And that's bad considering Kongo has no ground game. Shane Carwin seems to have the skill and size to beat Brock so I think that would be a good matchup.

wstar · 07-13-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

You do NOT stop striking or cranking down a submission until told to stop by the referee. Hendo immediately got off of Bisping when instructed to so no foul there.

No technical foul, sure, but we all knew the guy was out when he hit floor. Henderson knew it, and even admitted as much in his post-fight interview. The ref obviously knew it because he was lunging in to stop him before the second hit landed, he just didn't get there in time. It was totally unnecessary and unnecessarily dangerous. If by freak accident the guy had died from the knockout hit, that would've been a simple tragedy that's expected to happen in a sport like this on rare occasions. If he had died from the second, I would hope Henderson would get at least a civil suit for it. It was ridiculous.

jehamilton_98 · 07-13-2009, 01:14 PM

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No technical foul, sure, but we all knew the guy was out when he hit floor. Henderson knew it, and even admitted as much in his post-fight interview. The ref obviously knew it because he was lunging in to stop him before the second hit landed, he just didn't get there in time. It was totally unnecessary and unnecessarily dangerous. If by freak accident the guy had died from the knockout hit, that would've been a simple tragedy that's expected to happen in a sport like this on rare occasions. If he had died from the second, I would hope Henderson would get at least a civil suit for it. It was ridiculous.

I totally agree. Everyone keeps talking about how unprofessional Brock was after his fight and how it makes MMA and UFC look bad. I think that the second elbow that Henderson through was at the pinnacle of unprofessianal. He easily could have killed Bisping with that elbow. Henderson is a professional fighter and has knocked many people out. He KNEW Bisping was out when he his the floor from the first punch.

MC · 07-13-2009, 03:23 PM

did anyone see brocks post fight conference when he apologized after dana white had some choice words with him? he even hold up the bud light bottle lol i would loved to have been a fly on the wall to hear what dana said to him

just skip down to like the 3rd vid

UFC Video - UFC 100 Post Fight Press Conference with Dana White

rreign · 07-13-2009, 03:41 PM

All of you talking all this **** about Henderson "taking it too far" "being unprofessional" "knowing when to stop" "could have killed Bisping" blah blah blah!! Get over it.

Do any of you actually fight/train in any MMA? From the way that some of you were commenting, I say no.

I DO... and I know that I have never stopped nor had someone else stopped until a ref stopped it. I have seen so many fights continue because of the lack of aggressiveness on an opponents side. So here's what I say, fight until the fight gets stopped and don't second guess yourself when you have the opportunity to capitalize.

molamann · 07-13-2009, 03:44 PM

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I totally agree. Everyone keeps talking about how unprofessional Brock was after his fight and how it makes MMA and UFC look bad. I think that the second elbow that Henderson through was at the pinnacle of unprofessianal. He easily could have killed Bisping with that elbow. Henderson is a professional fighter and has knocked many people out. He KNEW Bisping was out when he his the floor from the first punch.

Are you kidding me? It's easy to say that when you're watching the highlights in slow motion but once Hendo got airborne there was no stopping him. In addition there was nothing illegal about his actions since fighters are to keep fighting until the referee stops the fight.

Last but not least, I'm aware of what Hendo said in the post-fight interview with Joe Rogan but it's quite obvious Hendo wasn't even aware of his actions til he saw the big screen himself and said what he said to add fuel to the fire of his Bisping feud.

wstar · 07-13-2009, 03:47 PM

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All of you talking all this **** about Henderson "taking it too far" "being unprofessional" "knowing when to stop" "could have killed Bisping" blah blah blah!! Get over it.

Do any of you actually fight/train in any MMA? From the way that some of you were commenting, I say no.

I DO... and I know that I have never stopped nor had someone else stopped until a ref stopped it. I have seen so many fights continue because of the lack of aggressiveness on an opponents side. So here's what I say, fight until the fight gets stopped and don't second guess yourself when you have the opportunity to capitalize.

I'm sorry, my opinion stands. I don't fight in MMA bouts, but I did practice martial arts (TKD) very religiously from about age 7 to age 20, so I've spent a lot of time in the ring, it's just that my rings had a lot more rules to them

. (And for the record, this was not a pansy-*** suburbanite martial arts experience. In the middle years I did my schooling in Singapore, and we trained every other night (alternating nights of the week) for 3-4 hours a night).

Even MMA is still a sport. There are still rules, and there should still be some standards of decency towards your peers in the sport. Nailing an unconscious guy that hard is never ok.

K20A2_S · 07-13-2009, 04:10 PM

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Wow GSP definitely needs to move up now. Oh and **** you too Brock.

He's defended his belt twice now and now he needs to move up?? Give couple guys a shot first IMO.

But the superfight of GSP and Silva people will start asking for sooner or later.

I don't care how big and lean GSP comes in as, Silva reach will be the diffrence in that one.

molamann · 07-13-2009, 04:37 PM

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He's defended his belt twice now and now he needs to move up?? Give couple guys a shot first IMO.

But the superfight of GSP and Silva people will start asking for sooner or later.

I don't care how big and lean GSP comes in as, Silva reach will be the diffrence in that one.

I'm gonna get flamed for this but I like to overlook his loss against Serra. Champions shouldn't get caught like that but **** happens.

Anyways, other than that:
Serra - Avenge check
Thiago Alves - Check
Jon Fitch - Check
Hughes - Check
Koscheck - Check
BJ Penn - Check check

Who else does he have to prove himself? Shields? He's in EXC. Kampmann? Not gonna happen anytime soon considering he's still on the rise. Paulo Thiago? Just got wrecked by Fitch.

Imo, GSP have accomplished more in his division than Spider yet Silva has already moved up.

CBRich · 07-13-2009, 08:39 PM

Come on, let's not be silly. There is no one else in the 170 lb weight class that can challenge GSP. Give him a few more fights? LOL. WHO?

arcticreaver · 07-14-2009, 12:36 AM

just watched some highlights on the lesnar and mir fight. lesnar is a beast. i wonder who else can take down this monster of a man.

ct63084 · 07-17-2009, 01:52 PM

Yeah brock looks crazy out there lol. He is too big and too fast. By the way I can't wait for the GSP vs Silva. I'm actually going to go for GSP on that one, just because he's more battle tested in the last couple of years than Silva and wow dude pulled his groin and still dominated.

07-12-2009, 11:20 PM	#18 (permalink)
MC Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NC Posts: 3,238 Drives: 2015 GTR NISMO Rep Power: 24	i wish bobby lashley had the skills to take him down. but i think he still needs a good year of substantial fights to build a soild foundation. between shane carwin and cain valesquez which one do you guys think has the better chance. to me carwin has some of the hardest G and P out there but cain seemed to pretty much manhandle congo on the ground. only problem was congo was beating his * on stand up, i think brock would KO him. __________________ 2015 GT-R N1SMO "THE ONE" Instagram MCGTRN1SMO Youtube MCGTRNISMO**

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MC Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NC Posts: 3,238 Drives: 2015 GTR NISMO Rep Power: 24	did anyone see brocks post fight conference when he apologized after dana white had some choice words with him? he even hold up the bud light bottle lol i would loved to have been a fly on the wall to hear what dana said to him just skip down to like the 3rd vid UFC Video - UFC 100 Post Fight Press Conference with Dana White __________________ 2015 GT-R N1SMO "THE ONE" Instagram MCGTRN1SMO Youtube MCGTRNISMO

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arcticreaver Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 769 Drives: 2009 Z34 7AT PG Rep Power: 924	just watched some highlights on the lesnar and mir fight. lesnar is a beast. i wonder who else can take down this monster of a man. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/arcticreaver - FaceBook http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sam-yang/a/832/325 - LinkedIn Profile

07-12-2009, 04:41 PM	#16 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	You do NOT stop striking or cranking down a submission until told to stop by the referee. Hendo immediately got off of Bisping when instructed to so no foul there. Lesnar is an idiot but it's hard to think of anyone beating him. And that hurts me to say. GSP always makes guys look bad. It's even worse when the opponent's strength is listed as "good takedown defense" and he ends up on his back over half the fight. Give him about 9-10 months to beef up a bit and then let him try out 185 against someone like Leben before talking about Silva. Great night of fights and even better when preceded by the Top 100 Fights show.

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edeeZee Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: s. cali, los angeles Posts: 627 Drives: 09 370z plat 6 speed Rep Power: 266	Lesnar will get owned by Fedor or Josh Barnett. GSP will get tooled by Anderson Silva if they ever meet.

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CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	I also think Cain's stand up is too weak. And taking an opponent down and controlling him does count for a lot but Cain didn't even come close to finishing Kongo on the ground. And that's bad considering Kongo has no ground game. Shane Carwin seems to have the skill and size to beat Brock so I think that would be a good matchup.

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rreign A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 2,341 Drives: 03 Evo 8 Rep Power: 709	All of you talking all this **** about Henderson "taking it too far" "being unprofessional" "knowing when to stop" "could have killed Bisping" blah blah blah!! Get over it. Do any of you actually fight/train in any MMA? From the way that some of you were commenting, I say no. I DO... and I know that I have never stopped nor had someone else stopped until a ref stopped it. I have seen so many fights continue because of the lack of aggressiveness on an opponents side. So here's what I say, fight until the fight gets stopped and don't second guess yourself when you have the opportunity to capitalize.

07-13-2009, 08:39 PM	#28 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	Come on, let's not be silly. There is no one else in the 170 lb weight class that can challenge GSP. Give him a few more fights? LOL. WHO?

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ct63084 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: FAIRFIELD CA Posts: 219 Drives: 2004 MAZDA3 Rep Power: 16	Yeah brock looks crazy out there lol. He is too big and too fast. By the way I can't wait for the GSP vs Silva. I'm actually going to go for GSP on that one, just because he's more battle tested in the last couple of years than Silva and wow dude pulled his groin and still dominated.