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Originally Posted by shadoquad I don't blame Mike Vick. It doesn't matter if you have Unitas/Marino/Manning/whoever back there, if the line can't hold for 2 seconds, you're not going to

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Old 11-06-2012, 12:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I don't blame Mike Vick. It doesn't matter if you have Unitas/Marino/Manning/whoever back there, if the line can't hold for 2 seconds, you're not going to have an effective passing game.

Holy crap, did you guys see the Saints pass rush yesterday? They had hats on Vick after every single drop-back.

Invest in an O-Line, Philly!!!
some of that can be fixed with the right play calls. early on, mccoy was running the ball really well. so the D line stayed in place and didnt rush Vick as bad. As the game went on they stopped running as much and the D line got aggressive and Vick started getting hit.

Also Philly didnt call alot of quick pass plays.. nearly all were plays that would develop in 3-4 seconds which won't work.

Reid and OC and GM need to go.
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some of that can be fixed with the right play calls. early on, mccoy was running the ball really well. so the D line stayed in place and didnt rush Vick as bad. As the game went on they stopped running as much and the D line got aggressive and Vick started getting hit.

Also Philly didnt call alot of quick pass plays.. nearly all were plays that would develop in 3-4 seconds which won't work.

Reid and OC and GM need to go.
Part of that was because they got so far behind they had to pass. This problem was of course caused by their complete failure in the red zone.
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Part of that was because they got so far behind they had to pass. This problem was of course caused by their complete failure in the red zone.
right but they wer ebehind in the second quarter.. where you can still run the ball To the red zone and then pass. I mea if it works it works.

look at MN... 12 carries 168 years in the first half..

5 touches second half..

if my RB had over 12 yards per carry.. I wouldnt pass the ball ONCE.
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right but they wer ebehind in the second quarter.. where you can still run the ball To the red zone and then pass. I mea if it works it works.

look at MN... 12 carries 168 years in the first half..

5 touches second half..

if my RB had over 12 yards per carry.. I wouldnt pass the ball ONCE.
Eagles haven't been giving McCoy the ball enough all season.
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right but they wer ebehind in the second quarter.. where you can still run the ball To the red zone and then pass. I mea if it works it works.

look at MN... 12 carries 168 years in the first half..

5 touches second half..

if my RB had over 12 yards per carry.. I wouldnt pass the ball ONCE.
I'd only pass the ball to keep them from stacking 8 in the box.

I agree, Philly shouldn't have stopped running.

Puzzled me when the Ravens stopped running in their game. It's not like "Rice, Raymond" is all that good or anything.
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I'd only pass the ball to keep them from stacking 8 in the box.

I agree, Philly shouldn't have stopped running.

Puzzled me when the Ravens stopped running in their game. It's not like "Rice, Raymond" is all that good or anything.
Why not give the ball to the "elite qb?"


Bmore would be infinitely better if they stopped trying to make flacco into something he's not and just pounded the ground. Their ground game + screens is enough to tear up most teams.
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Why not give the ball to the "elite qb?"


Bmore would be infinitely better if they stopped trying to make flacco into something he's not and just pounded the ground. Their ground game + screens is enough to tear up most teams.
Also, the Ravens' D isn't strong enough to save Flacco's azz every time anymore.
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Also, the Ravens' D isn't strong enough to save Flacco's azz every time anymore.
Honestly, they'd probably look a lot better of the ravens were still running a bunch.
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