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b1adesofcha0s 12-03-2012 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 2044632)
I know people say hes a great leader cus of what happened in denver. and as a steelers fan I admit.. HE beat us..

but if it werent for the team that denver was and is, he wouldnt have had success there.

To be decent in this league, he will need a team with a strong defense. a strong O line and a good run.. like denver was.

For all his charisma and leadership skills he would not have been able to save the Jets, the Chiefs, the Cardinals etc.
:iagree: He can be good, he just needs the right team. You could make the same argument with Alex Smith and the 49ers.

b1adesofcha0s 12-03-2012 08:08 PM
Well that was a hell of a TD by the Skins if it stands.

daisuke149 12-03-2012 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2044636)
:iagree: He can be good, he just needs the right team. You could make the same argument with Alex Smith and the 49ers.
but see i believe Alex is a more traditional QB and would find more success in more places than Tebow would.

Red__Zed 12-03-2012 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 2044632)
I know people say hes a great leader cus of what happened in denver. and as a steelers fan I admit.. HE beat us..

but if it werent for the team that denver was and is, he wouldnt have had success there.

To be decent in this league, he will need a team with a strong defense. a strong O line and a good run.. like denver was.

For all his charisma and leadership skills he would not have been able to save the Jets, the Chiefs, the Cardinals etc.
As a lifetime denver fan, you are undervaluing what he added to the team.

m4a1mustang 12-03-2012 08:13 PM
Anyone know where to stream the game?

daisuke149 12-03-2012 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2044644)
As a lifetime denver fan, you are undervaluing what he added to the team.
not at all. He made the team that had that better. And it was his throwing and QBing that beat us in the playoffs.

BUT. he wouldnt be able to translate that into one of the teams i mentioned above.

b1adesofcha0s 12-03-2012 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2044647)
Anyone know where to stream the game?
Can't watch it on TV? Try the Watch ESPN app. Or you can try this:
FirstRow Live Football Stream | Watch Live Football Online | Live Soccer Stream

Red__Zed 12-03-2012 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 2044648)
not at all. He made the team that had that better. And it was his throwing and QBing that beat us in the playoffs.

BUT. he wouldnt be able to translate that into one of the teams i mentioned above.
Not as dramatically, sure, but you could put Brady on the chiefs and he might win three games.

daisuke149 12-03-2012 08:26 PM
woooow. if young ran towards the side line he would have scored. No one on the outside and 2 blockers.

b1adesofcha0s 12-03-2012 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2044663)
Not as dramatically, sure, but you could put Brady on the chiefs and he might win three games.
Nah you forgot about the defenders getting lost in his eyes :roflpuke2:

daisuke149 12-03-2012 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2044663)
Not as dramatically, sure, but you could put Brady on the chiefs and he might win three games.
well thats a bad example for me.. because I believe that u put brady behind anything other than a perfect O-Line and hes a whiny lil cryin suck *** QB.

Red__Zed 12-03-2012 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 2044667)
well thats a bad example for me.. because I believe that u put brady behind anything other than a perfect O-Line and hes a whiny lil cryin suck *** QB.
Most good qb's are, because errybuddy sucks behind a crappy line.

daisuke149 12-03-2012 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2044669)
Most good qb's are, because errybuddy sucks behind a crappy line.
roth. griffin (with some more experience). rodgers and even to a degree eli manning I think would still win games.

Payton and Brady.. would collapse.

Red__Zed 12-03-2012 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 2044673)
roth. griffin (with some more experience). rodgers and even to a degree eli manning I think would still win games.

Payton and Brady.. would collapse.
But honestly their lines aren't that bad.

In the case of some of those guys, they make their lines look worse than they are.

b1adesofcha0s 12-03-2012 08:36 PM
Look what happened to the Packers against the Giants last week. Rodgers got smashed. Manning and Brady can make up for a not as great O line with their quick release passes.


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