2012 Formula One Thread

[alcheng]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

Id love to see Kimi at Red Bull. That team would suit him well!

To be honest, I don't know why Red Bull is keeping Webber, he is a pain in the a$$ 2nd driver.

I hope Red Bull will wake up in 2013 and sign someone else for 2014 next next year...

[G37Sam]

I think Webber is great in RBR, he is a second driver and managed to bag RBR a lot of points in spite of all the issues he had on his car earlier on with KERS.

[alcheng]

Webber is a good driver, there's no doubt about it, but it other way, he is not a good 2nd driver.

If he is the 1st driver of the team, for sure he can be as corky as the way he is now, but as a 2nd driver, he should know what "team-work" means...

[ChrisSlicks]

Originally Posted by alcheng

Webber is a good driver, there's no doubt about it, but it other way, he is not a good 2nd driver.

If he is the 1st driver of the team, for sure he can be as corky as the way he is now, but as a 2nd driver, he should know what "team-work" means...

That's a problem when you have 2 drivers on a team that are both capable of winning a championship. Vettel is a little younger and sharper than Mark but Mark has shown that he has plenty of talent as well. In some ways it is easier for teams to have a 2nd driver that is a little further back, and knows his place e.g. Alonso and Massa. Although even Massa has moments of brilliance.

Imagine if Vettel joined Ferrari with Alonso for 2014, then you would really butt heads.

[alcheng]

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

That's a problem when you have 2 drivers on a team that are both capable of winning a championship. Vettel is a little younger and sharper than Mark but Mark has shown that he has plenty of talent as well. In some ways it is easier for teams to have a 2nd driver that is a little further back, and knows his place e.g. Alonso and Massa. Although even Massa has moments of brilliance.

Imagine if Vettel joined Ferrari with Alonso for 2014, then you would really butt heads.

You are correct too, but look at McLaren, with Button and Hamilton in same team for three years, nothing coming from any of the two...

Webber, do you think he is capable of winning the championship?? He is driving a winning car but...

He reminds me of Eddie Irvine when he was in Ferrari with Schumacher, in a winning car but nothing much..

Do you really think Vettel will go to Ferrari in 2014? Ferrari is famous on favoring one driver, don't know how will they handle it or if either Vettel or Alonso will like it...

[ChrisSlicks]

Originally Posted by alcheng

You are correct too, but look at McLaren, with Button and Hamilton in same team for three years, nothing coming from any of the two...

Webber, do you think he is capable of winning the championship?? He is driving a winning car but...

He reminds me of Eddie Irvine when he was in Ferrari with Schumacher, in a winning car but nothing much..

Do you really think Vettel will go to Ferrari in 2014? Ferrari is famous on favoring one driver, don't know how will they handle it or if either Vettel or Alonso will like it...

Hamilton and Button spend to much time complaining and not enough time making it work. The polar opposite would be Kimi who says absolutely nothing when in the car, just drives it until the wheels fall off.

I thought Webber had a good chance at winning the championship back in 2010, he led for quite a while but then had a bad few races. As it ended up he finished 3rd and there was only a 16 point spread from 1st to 4th, a very tight season! Young drivers always have the advantage though, no matter how good or experienced the driver. You need lightning fast reflexes and feel which you start to lose by the time you are 35 or so. Just look at old Shumi.

Vettel to Ferrari, who knows. He's the hot ticket in F1 these days, everybody wants him. Ferrari says they're getting him when Massa leaves, RedBull says he's staying no doubt The Rumors were that Alonso said no to Hamilton joining Ferrari, but was ok with Vettel. Who knows if the rumors are true or not.

[alcheng]

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Hamilton and Button spend to much time complaining and not enough time making it work. The polar opposite would be Kimi who says absolutely nothing when in the car, just drives it until the wheels fall off.

I thought Webber had a good chance at winning the championship back in 2010, he led for quite a while but then had a bad few races. As it ended up he finished 3rd and there was only a 16 point spread from 1st to 4th, a very tight season! Young drivers always have the advantage though, no matter how good or experienced the driver. You need lightning fast reflexes and feel which you start to lose by the time you are 35 or so. Just look at old Shumi.

Vettel to Ferrari, who knows. He's the hot ticket in F1 these days, everybody wants him. Ferrari says they're getting him when Massa leaves, RedBull says he's staying no doubt The Rumors were that Alonso said no to Hamilton joining Ferrari, but was ok with Vettel. Who knows if the rumors are true or not.

If you look at Hamilton and Button, they are both world champs and they compete in the same team and they get along with each other very well, no bad words or complain the team about bias or whatever, no matter how good they are individually, they also have to work as a team.

Regardless who has a better result on a particular race, they praise each other and work on their own business, therefore there's no bad words from them for the last 3 years.

Alonso, he was with McLaren before moving to Ferrari, and he wasn't doing well with McLaren AND Hamilton, because he demands all the attention, that's why he fits into Ferrari perfectly, he's like Schumacher, has to be the #1 driver and have all the priority. And that's why Massa and Alonso is a good pair.

Vettel and Webber, I remember back in 2010 Webber was neck to neck with Vettel, but Webber is also the one who complains the team here and there, whining all the time about the team bias to Vettel and blah blah blah...

Look, if I am a team principal, I wouldn't want this kind of trouble, two fast drivers are ideal, but no trouble maker.

[G37Sam]

On a different note, who wants to see my pics from scrutineering at the 2012 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix?

Pics from the 2012 F1 Etihad GP at the Yas Marina Circuit

[TreeSemdyZee]

Originally Posted by G37Sam

On a different note, who wants to see my pics from scrutineering at the 2012 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix?

Pics from the 2012 F1 Etihad GP at the Yas Marina Circuit

That's a bucketload of awesome right there!

[G37Sam]

Thanks guys! I expect to see something similar from you after the Austin GP! Anyone on here going?

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by G37Sam

Thanks guys! I expect to see something similar from you after the Austin GP! Anyone on here going?

I WISH I had an opportunity for photos like those!! I will instead be avoiding south Austin and downtown all weekend due the clusterfvck of F1 and Austin FanFest going on at the same time.

My buddy got Pit Lane access for volunteering his help in the grandstands. He will be ushering people in/out but gets to wander around all weekend. Maybe next year.

[alcheng]

Another weekend hoping Raikonnen will win.

[DLSTR]

What a great qualy session from Austin. Big crowd, total fun.

Sky F1 Live Stream Online

[alcheng]

And not surprised Vettel took the pole, but a bit surprised Schumacher make the top ten...

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by alcheng

And not surprised Vettel took the pole, but a bit surprised Schumacher make the top ten...

FA had no grip. It wasnt the car today. Massa beat him and good. Massa has this place down. Not like Red Bull or Mclaren but respectably vs FA.