Originally Posted by lt_370z Kobe not a leader?? are you kidding?? he led the Lakers to 3 straight finals WITHOUT SHAQ and won 2 of them. Kobe a terrible teammate??
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06-19-2013, 06:46 PM | #871 (permalink) | |
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Used to be a ball hog? If Kobe had continued to pass like he did in the beginning of this season, they probably would have had a better record this season. And probably previous seasons as well. If you took Shaq during his LA ring years, and put him on any of the other top 7 teams during those years, the probability of a Finals win is high. If you do the same thing with Kobe, the likelyhood drops dramatically. Besides, Shaq was considered the most dominant player in each of those 3 years. Shaq was not benched during those times, as has been said by Phil Jackson, his presence on the floor outweighed his poor free throw shooting. Further, Shaq's numbers go up in each of the playoff ring years from the regular season, where Kobe's goes down. Kobe vs Carmelo. I think your numbers actually proved my point. As far as people saying Kobe is more clutch even though the numbers prove that is definitively wrong, isn't that the very definition of overrated? Last edited by Caustic; 06-19-2013 at 07:20 PM. |
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Gawd I hated Jordan. I despised the man. It wasn't until he retired, and the Knicks fell into obscurity for 12 years that I came to acknowledge just how good he was.
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And everyone wants to compare rings to lebron. Well hell when he is 35 lets see how many rings he has before everyone hates on him. LBJ is going to go down as one of the greatest. I hope and pray LBJ wins tomorrow just so I can see how the haters continue to cry and whine how he is a flaker.
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Don't get me wrong fellas...I like LBJ he is a great player no doubt and I give him all the credit in the world. But you gotta admit he almost blew game 6 in the final 2 mins he turned the ball over a couple times and took bad shots almost costing Heat the game. Although he did hit a huge 2nd attempt 3 and Ray Allen saved LBJ and hte heat from a huge amount of critisism. In the beginning of the Lakers season they were losing because they had no team chemistry and Kobe had to take over after the all star break. He guaranteed the playoffs and he did it. How is that not being a leader? Especially when they were SOOO far out of the playoff race before the all star break. Melo wont even be known as the best top 20 player when his career is said and done and never even made it pass the 2nd round of the playoffs...I think that argument is ridiculous. LBJ doesn't have the killer instinct Kobe does or the will to win. LBJ is too passive and he has been showing it this Finals. His superstar team has gotten blown out by SA twice and outplayed honestly.
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Why are we talking about LBJ and Kobe being in the same goat boat as Jordan? Wait until they retire, then we can compare. But if I had to choose who to build a team around? Prime Kobe vs Prime LBJ, I would take prime kobe.
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06-20-2013, 11:14 AM | #879 (permalink) |
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There wasnt 24/7 media, an overpopulated and opinionated internet and people talking **** safely behind a computer screen.
LBJ is under 24/7 scrutiny. Past superstars werent subjected to it like he is. Just saying. Sent from my SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2 |
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heat fans: when did you adopt the silly notion of chanting seven nation army in your arena? it was fun for soccer after a goal, but it just seems really stupid and out of place in basketball.
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