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[PapoZalsa]

Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z

Bird Jordan and Magic didn't do it by themselves.

That statement insults many Hall of Famers that were on the same roster.

I haven't heard one logical reason for all the hate for Lebron.

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Yeah, Bird, Jordan and Magic didn't do it themselves but didn't need a whole team behind them to do thier accomplishments.

Call it what you waat, I'm not insulting any Hall of Famer, but you cannot deny that Lebron WAS a FAILURE in Cleveland even when they had a players that supported him and that will be in the Hall of Fame like Shaq.

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

well obviously...like i said before its a team effort, i don't what you are getting at..... no one man can win a finals he needs teammates LOL

He had teammates in Cleveland, but he needs teammates of the caliber of Wade and Bosh and even like that I don't think that Wade should it take a second seat on the team.

Lebron just had excuses in Cleveland as he did last year. That is why people don't like him!

[nmjaxx9]

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Yeah, Bird, Jordan and Magic didn't do it themselves but didn't need a whole team behind them to do thier accomplishments.

Call it what you waat, I'm not insulting any Hall of Famer, but you cannot deny that Lebron WAS a FAILURE in Cleveland even when they had a players that supported him and that will be in the Hall of Fame like Shaq.

Lebron just had excuses in Cleveland as he did last year. That is why people don't like him!

LOL so what? He still makes more money that any of his "dislikers" is one of if not the best player in the NBA, is on the road to get his first and maybe one of his many rings. If you still personally hate a man when he is on the path to sucess you are a failure yourself. point blank period.

[PapoZalsa]

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

LOL so what? He still makes more money that any of his "dislikers" is one of if not the best player in the NBA, is on the road to get his first and maybe one of his many rings. If you still personally hate a man when he is on the path to sucess you are a failure yourself. point blank period.

Many rings????????

[nmjaxx9]

lol and people thought he couldnt get one sooo

[ZMan8]

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

LOL so what? He still makes more money that any of his "dislikers" is one of if not the best player in the NBA, is on the road to get his first and maybe one of his many rings. If you still personally hate a man when he is on the path to sucess you are a failure yourself. point blank period.

Calling someone you have no idea about a failure is pretty low in itself.

I already said of why I don't like him and that has nothing to do with basketball directly, therefore, basketball success does not change my opinion of him. If you read my pervious posts, you would have seen that I don't like him because I think he is a terrible decision maker and a bad example of what a good athlete and sportsman should be. He is blessed with great talent, but does not have discipline and maturity a 27 years old athelete should have.

[nmjaxx9]

Originally Posted by ZMan8

Calling someone you have no idea about a failure is pretty low in itself.

I already said of why I don't like him and that has nothing to do with basketball directly, therefore, basketball success does not change my opinion of him. If you read my pervious posts, you would have seen that I don't like him because I think he is a terrible decision maker and a bad example of what a good athlete and sportsman should be. He is blessed with great talent, but does not have discipline and maturity a 27 years old athelete should have.

It works both ways bud, hating on a nba player you never really met and only know his personality through tv is the same thing....

[ZMan8]

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

It works both ways bud, hating on a nba player you never really met and only know his personality through tv is the same thing....

Yes but he puts himself out for the world to judge him, there is a reason other NBA greats, fans, media call him out for his actions. That's the nature of Professional sports, the athelets don't have much of a personal life and we as fans get to know what they are all about. He has a poor track record of decision making and as a result everything he does gets put under magnifying glass

[nmjaxx9]

Originally Posted by ZMan8

Yes but he puts himself out for the world to judge him, there is a reason other NBA greats, fans, media call him out for his actions. That's the nature of Professional sports, the athelets don't have much of a personal life and we as fans get to know what they are all about. He has a poor track record of decision making and as a result everything he does gets put under magnifying glass

At the end of the day man hes a great player, if you are a true nba fan, then you will put that aside and respect the man for his talents. I dont think you should let personal traits of a player overshadow his talents.

For example, Michael Jackson, love his music, even though people criticized him for a being a child molester or whatever I didn't let that infleunce my judgement on his musical talents, just becasue he was a child molester it did not make me see him as a bad musician. Similary, just becasue Lebron is cocky, a bad decsion maker or w.e. it shouldn't lead you away from the reason why he is great....because of his basketball skills. I hope you understand..

[nmjaxx9]

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

At the end of the day man hes a great player, if you are a true nba fan, then you will put that aside and respect the man for his talents. I dont think you should let personal traits of a player overshadow his talents.

For example, Michael Jackson, love his music, even though people criticized him for a being a child molester or whatever I didn't let that infleunce my judgement on his musical talents, just becasue he was a child molester it did not make me see him as a bad musician. Similary, just becasue Lebron is cocky, a bad decsion maker or w.e. it shouldn't lead you away from the reason why he is great....because of his basketball skills. I hope you understand..

here let me quote it again....bottom line, we are here to discuss basketball who cares who lebron fcks, marries, yells at, is mean to, lol. HE IS A GREAT PLAYER and his personal life shouldn't be used to judge his basketballl talent. that is all.

[PapoZalsa]

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

At the end of the day man hes a great player, if you are a true nba fan, then you will put that aside and respect the man for his talents. I dont think you should let personal traits of a player overshadow his talents.

For example, Michael Jackson, love his music, even though people criticized him for a being a child molester or whatever I didn't let that infleunce my judgement on his musical talents, just becasue he was a child molester it did not make me see him as a bad musician. Similary, just becasue Lebron is cocky, a bad decsion maker or w.e. it shouldn't lead you away from the reason why he is great....because of his basketball skills. I hope you understand..

Now you are making an accusation of a player that never was convicted for it. Comparing orange with apples

To compare Jordan with Lebron, Lebron has a Looooong waay to go!

[PapoZalsa]

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

It works both ways bud, hating on a nba player you never really met and only know his personality through tv is the same thing....

When his deficiencies are pointed and you don't agree with it the people are haters. I just don't like him period because all his POOR decisions and attitude against other players.

[nmjaxx9]

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

When his deficiencies are pointed and you don't agree with it the people are haters. I just don't like him period because all his POOR decisions and attitude against other players.

you just didnt read what I told Z man did you?

[Aizen Sosuke]

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

If you still personally hate a man when he is on the path to sucess you are a failure yourself. point blank period.

This last part is true

[Rooster89]

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

If you still personally hate a man when he is on the path to sucess you are a failure yourself. point blank period.

this is where you messed up man. i think you are taking this too personally(i dunno why. its a discussion of basketball) and when you are the first to resort to a personal attack of others, that tells me you may not possess the maturity required to engage in a debate/discussion about professional sports. I would like you to apologize for resorting to a personal attack of another member. As this is not the type of behavior we condone here at www.the370z.com

Flaming is against the rules. Keep it about basketball, and keep it civil.

[PapoZalsa]

Originally Posted by Rooster89

this is where you messed up man. i think you are taking this too personally(i dunno why. its a discussion of basketball) and when you are the first to resort to a personal attack of others, that tells me you may not possess the maturity required to engage in a debate/discussion about professional sports. I would like you to apologize for resorting to a personal attack of another member. As this is not the type of behavior we condone here at www.the370z.com

Flaming is against the rules. Keep it about basketball, and keep it civil.