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[Rooster89]

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

Yeah Scarface in the eyes of sour clevland fans.

And I think its just one of those things that takes away from how good of player this guy really is, its not a hype like J-lin, where he just had a couple good games and hes all of sudden considered great. Lebron has been putting up numbers that are almost MJ-Kobe like since he was with the Cavs. Dude is talented, on the floor there is no doubt about his skills.

All the other stuff like he is a traitor, has a ego, is irrelevant to me, its like when Michael Jackson was alive they always scrutinized him about being a child molester, bleaching his skin (although many didn't even know why he did it, had a skin condition), and etc. However, I never let all that talk take away from why I respected the guy in the first place, he was a great dancer/singer.

Similarly, you can save all that talk about Lebron for the tabloids. I respect what the guy does day in and day out on the floor and thats it.

Lebron's been nothing but hype ever since he was in high school. He was catered to his whole life. He wrote a letter to the NBA when he was 17 because he didn't want to finish high school before he joined. You say he is a hard worker? I have never seen him give a 110% the way MJ and Kobe have. Kobe knows how to involve his team and then when they need him, he puts the team on his back in the clutch. Kobe and MJ didn't have the freakish athleticism lebron has. They had to sacrifice so much more and because of it, they are legends in the sport. Lebron expected to be an NBA all star. He will never be in the same league as kobe, let a lone come even close to MJ's league. I see lebron as a freakish man child with ungodly strength and speed that never was the underdog. Because of that, he doesn't know how to reach inside and dig into the knot that sits behind your stomache where you keep your last hopes. Lebron's mother spoiled him. Lebron's high school spoiled him. The cav's spoiled him. He is now far too spoiled. You can't have a good omlette is even one of those eggs is spoiled.

He may get a ring or two and he may break some records. But he still that whiny freak man child who expects things on a silver platter. Thats why when the game is on the line and its for all the marbles, he chokes.

MJ didn't even get picked for his high school team. He made his career proving people wrong. He would make his critics eat their own words. When they said he couldn't play defense, he got defensive player of the year. When they said he was a ball hog, he became the Bull's all time assist leader. He used naysayers to fuel the fire of desire for perfection in his belly.

Just my 10 cents.

[KingZee]

Originally Posted by Rooster89

Lebron's been nothing but hype ever since he was in high school. He was catered to his whole life. He wrote a letter to the NBA when he was 17 because he didn't want to finish high school before he joined. You say he is a hard worker? I have never seen him give a 110% the way MJ and Kobe have. Kobe knows how to involve his team and then when they need him, he puts the team on his back in the clutch. Kobe and MJ didn't have the freakish athleticism lebron has. They had to sacrifice so much more and because of it, they are legends in the sport. Lebron expected to be an NBA all star. He will never be in the same league as kobe, let a lone come even close to MJ's league. I see lebron as a freakish man child with ungodly strength and speed that never was the underdog. Because of that, he doesn't know how to reach inside and dig into the knot that sits behind your stomache where you keep your last hopes. Lebron's mother spoiled him. Lebron's high school spoiled him. The cav's spoiled him. He is now far too spoiled. You can't have a good omlette is even one of those eggs is spoiled.

He may get a ring or two and he may break some records. But he still that whiny freak man child who expects things on a silver platter. Thats why when the game is on the line and its for all the marbles, he chokes.

MJ didn't even get picked for his high school team. He made his career proving people wrong. He would make his critics eat their own words. When they said he couldn't play defense, he got defensive player of the year. When they said he was a ball hog, he became the Bull's all time assist leader. He used naysayers to fuel the fire of desire for perfection in his belly.

Just my 10 cents.

exactly why sh*t isn't only about stats

[nmjaxx9]

Originally Posted by Rooster89

Lebron's been nothing but hype ever since he was in high school. He was catered to his whole life. He wrote a letter to the NBA when he was 17 because he didn't want to finish high school before he joined. You say he is a hard worker? I have never seen him give a 110% the way MJ and Kobe have. Kobe knows how to involve his team and then when they need him, he puts the team on his back in the clutch. Kobe and MJ didn't have the freakish athleticism lebron has. They had to sacrifice so much more and because of it, they are legends in the sport. Lebron expected to be an NBA all star. He will never be in the same league as kobe, let a lone come even close to MJ's league. I see lebron as a freakish man child with ungodly strength and speed that never was the underdog. Because of that, he doesn't know how to reach inside and dig into the knot that sits behind your stomache where you keep your last hopes. Lebron's mother spoiled him. Lebron's high school spoiled him. The cav's spoiled him. He is now far too spoiled. You can't have a good omlette is even one of those eggs is spoiled.

He may get a ring or two and he may break some records. But he still that whiny freak man child who expects things on a silver platter. Thats why when the game is on the line and its for all the marbles, he chokes.

MJ didn't even get picked for his high school team. He made his career proving people wrong. He would make his critics eat their own words. When they said he couldn't play defense, he got defensive player of the year. When they said he was a ball hog, he became the Bull's all time assist leader. He used naysayers to fuel the fire of desire for perfection in his belly.

Just my 10 cents.

So you think Kobe was not hyped when he entered the NBA around 18? You think Jordan wasn't hyped until he started winning championships with the bulls. No one is making a comparison to them, in fact I feel Lebron is in a league of his own. Go around and ask the average person that doesn't know about basketball. And then ask them if they know who Michael Jordan is, ask them if they know Kobe Bryant, ask them if they know who Lebron James is. They will answer yes, then ask them if they know who for example, just putting it out there who Derrick Rose is, even who Dwayne Wade is, they probably will say I don't know, or no.

The hype you talk I think you have mistaken by the word popularity. Lebron is a popular man. When I say that it is an understatement. To be on the path to being a legend, to be "great" you have to be well known, you have to be popular. And how do you think he has gotten popular? Not by just dribbling the ball a couple times on the floor and passing it around and making a couple shots a night. But he has constantly grown in gameplay, he started with .410 when he came into the league back in 03, he is not .55 FT%, he started with 4.2 rpg, now he is avergaing 8.4 this season! And he is not even a 3 point shooter, but he is shooting .405 coming from just 0.2 %. Not bad when you realize that he is playing a forward.

And improvements, other than his shooting percentages we all know he is one if not the best finisher in the NBA. People said he had no low post game, so he trained with Olajuwon over the summer, and is making more shots posting on defenders. Hence his shooting % is getting considerably higher. You have to give to this man to know what he is doing, he plays smart intelligent basketball. A hot head and egoistic, but has every right to be! Ill say it and not just because I am a fan, he is going to be one of the greatest who ever played this game. Plus his fan base outweigh his haters anyways.

[nmjaxx9]

Looks like we got Bosh back and diggin the white heat jerseys!

[nmjaxx9]

Anyone following the trade deadline rumors? Looks like the deadline is next Thursday, which means DW, Gasol, and Jamal Crawford might be possibly traded.

Mark stein said this about the trade with Orlando/Dwight:

I’m sure some of the “Magic resolve” chatter that’s been gaining traction in recent days about how increasingly determined they are to keep him beyond the deadline is at least partly designed as a means of trying to improve the offers that come in before the deadline. Yet it seems evident that the stronger belief in the Magic Kingdom is that it’s better to keep Dwight and face the worst-case-scenario consequences of losing him for nothing if there’s so much as a 10 percent chance of him changing his mind.

The vibe coming from the Magic is that owner Rich DeVos prefers that scenario, frightening as it is, to what Orlando can get for Dwight in a trade today. Fortunately we have only about a week more to wait to find out whether Orlando’s bravery has staying power … or whether the claim that it’ll take its chances with mere salary-cap space should Dwight bolt was just posturing.

heres the whole article if anyone wants to read: http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/0...s=iref:nbahpt1