Official 2011-2012 Lakers thread

[KingZee]

Originally Posted by Rui Z

As a Lakers fan, I wish CP3 was on the Lakers. As a basketball fan, it was better that CP3 went to the Clippers. The pairing of CP3 and Blake is more exciting. I can't wait to see Lob City!

BTW, making 10 three pointers in a row in practice isn't anything special. Most shooting guards in the NBA can do that. It's Kobe's ability to make it over anybody in a game that makes him special.

I agree with you on the fact that the CP3 trade to the Clippers was better for the Hornets but isn't this pretty close to insider trading? How do you stop a trade that was agreed to and done just because you are the commissioner of the League and the League owns the team? It's like the Government owning a private corporation and after agreeing to sell it off to someone pulls the deal off the table as the government and sells it to someone that came along after only because it's more beneficial. Sh*t doesn't make sense.

I blame the Lakers for letting go of Lamar so quickly for nothing in return though and I blame him for not understanding the most basic rule to the game, you're a commodity and it's all part of the game.

[nmjaxx9]

Originally Posted by Rui Z

As a Lakers fan, I wish CP3 was on the Lakers. As a basketball fan, it was better that CP3 went to the Clippers. The pairing of CP3 and Blake is more exciting. I can't wait to see Lob City!

BTW, making 10 three pointers in a row in practice isn't anything special. Most shooting guards in the NBA can do that. It's Kobe's ability to make it over anybody in a game that makes him special.

Its a Lakers thread after all.

[nmjaxx9]

Originally Posted by KingZee

I agree with you on the fact that the CP3 trade to the Clippers was better for the Hornets but isn't this pretty close to insider trading? How do you stop a trade that was agreed to and done just because you are the commissioner of the League and the League owns the team? It's like the Government owning a private corporation and after agreeing to sell it off to someone pulls the deal off the table as the government and sells it to someone that came along after only because it's more beneficial. Sh*t doesn't make sense.

I blame the Lakers for letting go of Lamar so quickly for nothing in return though and I blame him for not understanding the most basic rule to the game, you're a commodity and it's all part of the game.

The letter to him might have been part of the reason, where as I still think that he was unhappy about the decisions made with the lockout, he blames greedy agents for making a labor deal that many players were not happy with, with in fact he could have negotiated a different contract.

[Rui Z]

Originally Posted by KingZee

I agree with you on the fact that the CP3 trade to the Clippers was better for the Hornets but isn't this pretty close to insider trading? How do you stop a trade that was agreed to and done just because you are the commissioner of the League and the League owns the team? It's like the Government owning a private corporation and after agreeing to sell it off to someone pulls the deal off the table as the government and sells it to someone that came along after only because it's more beneficial. Sh*t doesn't make sense.

As acting owner of the Hornets, Stern had every right to not accept a trade he didn't like. Just like every owner in the league has a right to say 'no' to a trade that their GM proposes. However, if the reason Stern didn't accept the trade was because of the whiny small market owners, then I agree that the commissioner was wrong in not accepting the trade. But listening to Stern's explanation, I believe he just wanted a better deal than the Lakers trade proposal.

[KingZee]

Originally Posted by Rui Z

As acting owner of the Hornets, Stern had every right to not accept a trade he didn't like. Just like every owner in the league has a right to say 'no' to a trade that their GM proposes. However, if the reason Stern didn't accept the trade was because of the whiny small market owners, then I agree that the commissioner was wrong in not accepting the trade. But listening to Stern's explanation, I believe he just wanted a better deal than the Lakers trade proposal.

exactly what I'm talking about right here: For David Stern, questions about possible conflict of interest - latimes.com

[nmjaxx9]

Originally Posted by Rui Z

As acting owner of the Hornets, Stern had every right to not accept a trade he didn't like. Just like every owner in the league has a right to say 'no' to a trade that their GM proposes. However, if the reason Stern didn't accept the trade was because of the whiny small market owners, then I agree that the commissioner was wrong in not accepting the trade. But listening to Stern's explanation, I believe he just wanted a better deal than the Lakers trade proposal.

I disagree, even if he had the right to do it, it wasn't justified. He claims that Gilberts letter to him had no way influenced the cancellation of the trade. Really? Well, how is it that only a day after he got the letter he decided to cancel the trade, when the trade was actually going on for 3 days. So in the 2 days prior, he was actually getting things ready for the trade to go on. If he is going to be influenced by such things as angry letters, then I say he has no justification making decisions as the Commissioner of the NBA.

I think his rant about this had nothing to do with influencing my decsion, I had all this planned before is all bogus. He and a certain few could not stand the thought of Kobe and CP on the same team. Point blank.

[nmjaxx9]

This basically sums up what I mean Please read: Linda Kenney Baden: To David Stern: You Are Not God!

[Rui Z]

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

This basically sums up what I mean Please read: Linda Kenney Baden: To David Stern: You Are Not God!

That article is crap. Its too opinionated, sensationalized, and assumption based.

[nmjaxx9]

Originally Posted by Rui Z

That article is crap. Its too opinionated, sensationalized, and assumption based.

Well the truth is bitter, whether people accept it or not, that is what happened. So you're trying to say he didn't have other motives?

[KingZee]

Originally Posted by Rui Z

That article is crap. Its too opinionated, sensationalized, and assumption based.

You can't deny that there's a bit of conflict of interest though

[Rui Z]

Originally Posted by KingZee

You can't deny that there's a bit of conflict of interest though

I'm just saying that specific article is crap because it tries to create this web of conspiracy against the Lakers by assuming certain things. The writer is being sensational.

There was conflict of interest. I agree the NBA went about the whole trade situation wrong, but in the end I believe David Stern did what was best for the Hornets. David Stern should have told Dell Demps in the beginning, "Dell you have the power to negotiate and come up with good trades, but I have the final say on whether the trade should be accepted." There was a lack of communication. Also in hindsight, "basketball reasons" was the right reason to give at that moment. They didn't want to give the reasons (lower payroll, younger talent, more future potentials are better things for a potential new owner) back when they vetoed the Lakers trade, because that would have given more leverage to the Clippers.

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