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nmjaxx9 12-16-2011 09:23 AM

This basically sums up what I mean Please read: :tiphat: Linda Kenney Baden: To David Stern: You Are Not God!

Rui Z 12-16-2011 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1452024)
This basically sums up what I mean Please read: :tiphat: Linda Kenney Baden: To David Stern: You Are Not God!

That article is crap. Its too opinionated, sensationalized, and assumption based.

dAvenue 12-16-2011 11:49 AM

As the assumed owner of the Hornets, Stern acted within his means. It was simply a negotiation tactic to drive up the price for Paul. The Hornets ended up getting a much better deal with the lastest Clips offer than with their previous offers...including the Lakers. You're seeing the same thing play out with the Magic: deal is on with the Nets...oh wait deal's off...deal's back on...nope, nope, it's off again...etc. It's all in the name of getting the most value possible for your asset.

nmjaxx9 12-16-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 1452185)
That article is crap. Its too opinionated, sensationalized, and assumption based.

Well the truth is bitter, whether people accept it or not, that is what happened. So you're trying to say he didn't have other motives?

KingZee 12-16-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 1452185)
That article is crap. Its too opinionated, sensationalized, and assumption based.

You can't deny that there's a bit of conflict of interest though

Rui Z 12-16-2011 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KingZee (Post 1452339)
You can't deny that there's a bit of conflict of interest though

I'm just saying that specific article is crap because it tries to create this web of conspiracy against the Lakers by assuming certain things. The writer is being sensational.

There was conflict of interest. I agree the NBA went about the whole trade situation wrong, but in the end I believe David Stern did what was best for the Hornets. David Stern should have told Dell Demps in the beginning, "Dell you have the power to negotiate and come up with good trades, but I have the final say on whether the trade should be accepted." There was a lack of communication. Also in hindsight, "basketball reasons" was the right reason to give at that moment. They didn't want to give the reasons (lower payroll, younger talent, more future potentials are better things for a potential new owner) back when they vetoed the Lakers trade, because that would have given more leverage to the Clippers.

KingZee 12-16-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 1452397)
I'm just saying that specific article is crap because it tries to create this web of conspiracy against the Lakers by assuming certain things. The writer is being sensational.

There was conflict of interest. I agree the NBA went about the whole trade situation wrong, but in the end I believe David Stern did what was best for the Hornets. David Stern should have told Dell Demps in the beginning, "Dell you have the power to negotiate and come up with good trades, but I have the final say on whether the trade should be accepted." There was a lack of communication. Also in hindsight, "basketball reasons" was the right reason to give at that moment. They didn't want to give the reasons (lower payroll, younger talent, more future potentials are better things for a potential new owner) back when they vetoed the Lakers trade, because that would have given more leverage to the Clippers.

I agree with you, didn't read that article so I wasn't really referencing it. I posted an LA Times article on the last page that I agree with as far as conflict of interest. Whether or not Stern's decision was good or bad for the hornets they dropped the ball and information got out before a "final decision" was made by the owner/league commissioner and possibly f'cked up the Lakers franchise for the sake of another (Hornets) that brings in much less revenue to the league.

Rui Z 12-16-2011 07:07 PM

Lakers drama continues.....Kobe divorcing

KingZee 12-16-2011 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 1452894)
Lakers drama continues.....Kobe divorcing

Just came on to post this but you beat me to it...fvck man, this was probably the last nail in the coffin for this season for the Lakers...Go Clippers?

nmjaxx9 12-16-2011 07:45 PM

Dam that sucks....hopefully it won't affect his playing...:ugh2:

nmjaxx9 12-16-2011 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 1452397)
I'm just saying that specific article is crap because it tries to create this web of conspiracy against the Lakers by assuming certain things. The writer is being sensational.

No actually its showing how David Stern has something against the Lakers...hence his trade decision cancellation

Here I quoted it for you:

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Now it gets interesting. Is there a deeper reason that Mr. Stern may harbor for punishing the Laker nation? Query: Whom does Derek Fisher play for? Answer: the Los Angeles Lakers. Hmmmm. In the law when an employer takes an untoward action against an employee who is union leader, whistleblower, or otherwise just a pain in the pants, the motivation for that action is often questionable and possibly actionable. Am I seeing a connect-the-dots painting? Is this about Derek Fisher's involvement in the strike? You remember you stated that Mr. Fisher leaked private information to the news media that were lies and also helped continue an unfair strike -- at least in the Stern opinion. Despite the fact that the negotiating team partly led by Derek Fisher was outmatched, they did not crumble. Fisher just represented the players' rights to his best abilities. It is too bad Dwayne Wade was not in Derek Fisher's position carrying out the players' desires, and then you could have attempted to get even with the Miami Heat.

Rui Z 12-16-2011 08:16 PM

If Chris Paul was on the Lakers, Derek Fisher would finally be able to fill the void that was created once Mark Madsen left.........Male Cheerleader. That trade would have ended Derek Fisher's career. David Stern would have let that trade go through if he wanted to get back at Fisher.

dAvenue 12-16-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1452947)
No actually its showing how David Stern has something against the Lakers...hence his trade decision cancellation

Here I quoted it for you:

That's called conspiracy theory.

Rui Z 12-16-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dAvenue (Post 1453061)
That's called conspiracy theory.

yup

KingZee 12-16-2011 09:08 PM

Yeah I don't think this had anything to do with Fisher...that's just stupid and Stern might be a lot of things but he's not stupid.


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