The Official 2011-2012 NBA season thread

[eastwest2300]

Lebron = over rated!

[nmjaxx9]

saying Lebron is overrated is like saying Dwight Howard is only good at defense cuz of his size.

Lebron is not overrated, he is more like the black knight, he is the underdog, the only reason people undermine him is because he doesn't have a ring, not his fault, as most of his team didn't hold their own weight in the finals he was forced to take all the brunt, and you can only carry your team so far by yourself, basketball isn't an "I" game its a "team" game.

but if we start judging players on if they got a NBA championship ring or not, most players would be considered overrated anyways.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

saying Lebron is overrated is like saying Dwight Howard is only good at defense cuz of his size.

Lebron is not overrated, he is more like the black knight, he is the underdog, the only reason people undermine him is because he doesn't have a ring, not his fault, as most of his team didn't hold their own weight in the finals he was forced to take all the brunt, and you can only carry your team so far by yourself, basketball isn't an "I" game its a "team" game.

but if we start judging players on if they got a NBA championship ring or not, most players would be considered overrated anyways.

Lebron is not an underdog by any stretch of the imagination.

He is one of the most hyped basketball players of all time. They were hyping him in high school. And, to his credit, he has backed most of that up with his play. I don't think he's overrated from a talent perspective, but it's patently ridiculous to call him an underdog.

Whether or not he ever wins a title, he'll be a HoF-er at this rate. If he adds titles to the resume, he'll be talked about as one of the best ever.

I don't like how he handles himself on a personal level, but he's got skills on a court.

[nmjaxx9]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

Lebron is not an underdog by any stretch of the imagination.

He is one of the most hyped basketball players of all time. They were hyping him in high school. And, to his credit, he has backed most of that up with his play. I don't think he's overrated from a talent perspective, but it's patently ridiculous to call him an underdog.

Whether or not he ever wins a title, he'll be a HoF-er at this rate. If he adds titles to the resume, he'll be talked about as one of the best ever.

I don't like how he handles himself on a personal level, but he's got skills on a court.

I was referring to his career after he moved from Cleveland to the Heat. Thats when most of the bashing about him being overrated and all that came to its peak. Everyone wanted him to do bad, and in a recent interview he even admitted his performance in the 11 finals wasn't his best. But as I said, that is not his fault. So in that sense he is a underdog because although people say that he is great, there are a lot more naysayers about his talent, and people who overlook his abilities and skills just because he doesnt have a championship ring. When in reality he already has proven his skills, and he doesn't need a ring to establish that.

Thats what I like about James though, even with all the bashing he has gotten (mostly by sour clevland fans) he still admitted his wrongs, said he was playing more angry because of it, and it affected his overall in game performance. Outlining your own mistakes is a good way to start if you are going to gain back fans you have lost due to a personal decision. Hopefully, he can get back to playing like he was when he was in 09-10'