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Anyone who saw UFC 128 and Jones' fight vs Shogun knows what I'm talking about. He is just a beast of a fighter and seems to be unstoppable at this point. I can't think of anyone who can even challenge let alone beat him. Rashad Evans is gonna get destroyed. Anderson Silva is the only one who I can think of at the moment that has any real chance against him. Don't think that fight will happen though as Silva wants to stay at middle weight.

time is his only enemy
 

another example of a guy who is clearly superior

but this razor's edge only lasts a year or 2

because of the nature of the sport

someone will get him, maybe someone who's presently an unknown

Yeah Joe Rogan noted that this was the same thing people were saying after Machida beat Evans for the title. We all know how that turned out :icon14:

Whats amazing is he's been in MMA for about 3yrs, 84" reach, and only 23yrs old...

I called him beating Shogun but I didn't think it would be so one sided. Shogun has taken out so many big names...

I think Anderson might take the fight eventually....if people keep talking about how he could beat Silva, it might make him want the fight :)

I did not expect the fight to be so one sided either. The size difference was too much to overcome for Shogun. I'm surprised he didn't go for any leg kicks against Jones though. Those are one of his biggest weapons and would have gone a long way in slowing down Jones.

I can't decide whether I want to see Silva vs GSP or Silva vs Jones more. I think he might eventually take the fight with Jones. For that fight, I think quickness in striking will decide it. I definitely saw Jones using a lot of those front kicks Silva used to KO Belfort. It would make for a spectacular fight.

I would lean more towards seeing Silva vs Bones, size would be closer and we have a chance at seeing more of a strikers match up...

I think GSP would do well, He's been training at the gym I do Muay Thai at on Tuesdays...noticed lately he's been sparrign with bigger guys, doubt its just for his fight with Shields :)

But anyways, back to Bones, I was really impressed with how he handled himself, Shogun reminded me a bit of the last time he came off surgery and fought forrest, although this time, you could tell he was not sure how to attack him, couldn't even use his greatest weapon on him

That's cool, I would love to meet GSP in person. He seems like a really nice guy.

Jones was bigger, stronger, and faster than Shogun. The real killer though was the reach advantage. Shogun had to charge in to even try to hit him, which allowed Jones to easily dodge or counter it. I think Jones is kind of like Brock Lesnar. He seems unstoppable, but someone just needs to figure out the right game plan to beat him. He's a freak athlete, but he has a lot more overall skill than Lesnar which makes it even more difficult.

I think perfect timing + killer leg kicks could have slowed Jones down and taken away some of that reach. Other strategy would be someone who can take him down and keep him there GSP style.

Bones is good but wont stay on top long like GSP or Anderson. In fact, if he fights Anderson he will lose.

I have to disagree with you. Did you see the fight against Shogun? He completely destroyed him with minimal effort. Shogun's no pushover either. I wouldn't give anyone else in the division any significant chance at beating him at all, let alone in that manner. The scary thing is, this kid is still learning. He has a lot of room to improve and with experience I think he will be up there with GSP and Anderson Silva. This is exactly the way Silva came into the UFC. Obliterating every opponent including the champion (who was Rich Franklin in Silva's case). I'm not saying he would beat Silva, who happens to be my fav fighter, but he would have a decent shot and a much better one than anyone else. Just my :twocents:

Never said he wasnt good....but.....people were saying that Machida would rule the division for a while.......and we all know what happened.

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I mentioned that in my 2nd post I think. I was disagreeing with you when you say Jones won't stay on top for long. He definitely has the potential to do so and become the next GSP/Silva. He could also be the next Machida and get blown out in his next fight. No one can know for sure, we'll just have to wait and see :tup:

Ya, he's really awesome, always friendly, even says hi to the scrubs in the gym lol.

I think whats so amazing about Jones right now is that he has not been put into a bad spot yet, he's also taken very little damage so if he keeps that up he has a long career ahead of him.

If he gets beat, I see it happening in a "Lay n pray" more grinding fashion, but he seems to have enough escapes and he'll be hard to keep down. I'm excited to see how far this kid can go.

His fighting style is really unpredictable too. All those crazy spinning back fists hurt Shogun pretty bad in that fight, especially the one where he was up against the cage. I have to admit though, Shogun has some serious heart. I'm surprised he lasted that long after taking that kind of beating.

Ya, the spinning elbow off the cage was something else, prefectly timed

Whats even more impressive is Jones made Shogun tap, as Herb Dean is stopping it, you see Shogun Tapping while he's on his knees....that sealed the deal in regards to how dominant he was in that fight

Hmm, Rashad next, then I'm wondering who...the LHW division has been up and down lately.

Just looking at the rest of the 205 division I can't think of any real challenges for Jones. It would definitely take someone with good speed and footwork such as Silva to take him out. Maybe after GSP takes the 185 title Silva will decide to step up to 205.

GSP said that if he fights Silva, it might have to be at a catch weight or else it will take a while for him to gain all that weight. I think Silva will still win though. The only people I see having a chance at Jones might be Evans or Shogun (on a good day). Evans is a good wrestler and has trained with Jones long enough to possibly know his weaknesses. Shogun would need to be at his best if he hopes to beat Jones. He needs to go for the legs or tag him with a good shot.

No way Rashad beats Bones unless he pulls a Matt Serra lucky punch. Jones is better than Rashad at striking and Rashad will still try and strike with him.

I also think GSP will beat Anderson.

am I the only one who thinks that wasnt Typical shogun?!?! Something was off....He didnt take his usual stance, use his weapons or even fight in the style/manner he always does. I have watched ever single one of his fights, since pride...and this wasnt shogun. Bones is a good fighter, but silva should dispose

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I don't know if it was some stupid gameplan that he was following or it was cuz of the surgery or something else. Something was definitely off. I don't remember him throwing even one kick. That's his biggest weapon. I've said it a coupke times already, but if he used the leg kick strategy from his first fight with Machida I think he would have taken the fight. That's assuming he was fighting in his top form and figured out the right timing for his strikes.

actually, what it was was the initial knee

When I first looked at the fight, I didn't think the knee bones threw 30 seconds in landed, but it did, and flush....he wasn't the same after that, he was recovering from that point.

He also did seem flat...but I honestly think he was fighting an uphill battle from early on.

They need to bring in Gegard Moussasi from Strikeforce for Jones.

Outside of that, front runners are: Lyoto, Rampage, Rashad I guess....the rest have way too many holes in their games....Phil Davis is up and coming but not ready...

jones is unstoppable at 205.. he is the perect weapon at the size.. long arms and legs very aggressive but yet patient aswell....

the only potential issue i see with him is i could see him getting over confident with a spinning elbow or flying knee and get caught....

i dont think he will be beat by any of the current 205 guys that is until silvia moves up to fight him... or eventually he moves to fight a "smaller" heavyweight like cain or JDS.. i think those guys would beat him

I'm gonna watch the fight again this weekend with my cousin and ill be watching carefully at the knee. I thought it missed too. What hurt him the most though was the kick to the face and spinning back fist up against the cage. He was so dazed after that, you knew it was pretty much over unless Shogun managed some spectacular KO.

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Jones, just like Silva, has the perfect build and frame for an MMA fighter. I can definitely see him moving up to heavyweight one day though. When he loses his size advantage, that's when things start to get dangerous for him.

me too! i didnt think that knee hit him...its was soo hard to watch Shogun go down like that....i was the only one at the bar wearing the green/yellow shogun badboy shirt...:icon14:

Yeah Shogun is definitely one of my favs too. I was sad to see Shogun go down like that, but at the same time amazed at how good Jones was. I always knew he was good, but he took it to a whole new level with this fight.

ehh.. he isnt on the level of jones.. he looked great in DREAM.... beat down babalu but then got grinded out my king mo... i know he had all this hype of the baby fedor but i just dont think he has anything for someone as dynamic as jones.. other than that strikeforce has hendo... who has that wicked overhand but not much else these days.. so you go back to the UFC and the usual suspects of forrest rampage franklin and the gang really i dont think can compete..

now with rashad i dont think it will be a huge blow out as bad a the shogun fight.. but he didnt look good in his victory over rampage or thiago silva..both fights were the same he wrestled them grinded out some rounds but then got caught bad by both of them and almost lost......

i would almost say throw vitor in there with him out of all the guys... but its hard to even gauge where vitor is at because silva steven segaled his *** before we even had a chance to see much from him


yeah his reach is ridiculous ... i think i saw a push kick from him that almost went over shoguns head.. then when he gets you on the ground he just smothers you with the lanky body.. seems like a cool guy too.. between him and cain UFC has some great new ambassadors to the sport that are gonna get alot of cross over attention.. i see jones is on leno this week to talk about the robbery thing.....

Vitor would also be an interesting fight. He did really well against Franklin and seemed to be doing well against Silva before he got KO'd.

That reach is killer. There was a bunch of times where he just held his arm out against Shogun's face to keep him away. It was like watching a bully in a cartoon.

Here is the finish :)

I'll try to find a GIF of the initial knee

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/...21cc7b664g.jpg

Nice, I definitely see him tapping. Did you make this or find it? Another god one would be the kick to the face and spinning back fist when he was up against the cage.

awesome left hook to the body...textbook.

Here is the opening knee, and nope, I can't take credit for these :)

I'm learning though

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...FLYINGKNEE.gif

Holy crap! That was ridiculous. Did not realize it hit that bad, or even at all really. Good job finding these. :tup:

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Soccer Kick, punches then Front kick

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I...ck-ufc-128.gif

Spinning Elbow off the cage

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-l...bow-shogun.gif

Nice :tup:

Can you find one of the Anderson Silva front kick against Vitor Belfort? If you do, I wanna make it my avatar :)

ask and you shall recieve :tup:

http://www.abload.de/img/silva_belfort23og6.gif



I really like the elbow K.O. he pulled on Tony Fryklin back in Cage Rage, watch as he "tries" to get up

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t...owfromhell.gif

Thanks! Unfortunately the file size is too big to use as my forum avatar.

Anderson Silva is a scary man.

He seems like a cool guy to hang out with. Too bad he said he's gonna stay at middle weight and not move up :(

wow....amazing clips....!