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[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by SPOHN

Jon Jones is great but the 205 class is thin these days. His next fight is Dan Henderson. I like him and anything can happen for sure. But he is 41 years old.

Jones is going to move up to heavyweight eventually, but when that will happen is not clear yet. Seems Dana White is not quite ready for Jones to make that transition yet. I don't think he'll have any trouble getting through Henderson. Not sure where they will go after that. I can see him having rematches with Shogun, Machida, and/or Evans before he eventually moves up to heavyweight.

[tonybui]

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Jones is going to move up to heavyweight eventually, but when that will happen is not clear yet. Seems Dana White is not quite ready for Jones to make that transition yet. I don't think he'll have any trouble getting through Henderson. Not sure where they will go after that. I can see him having rematches with Shogun, Machida, and/or Evans before he eventually moves up to heavyweight.

He already beat those guys, it's time to move up to heavy weights, no questions asked

[speedfreek]

With the way Jones beat all those guys I don't see how Dana or the Fertitta's can think any of those rematches will bring big money. Other than a fluke I don't see anyone having any better luck next time. Dan Henderson has a better chance of sneaking in his H-Bomb on him. After this fight I think they quit BS'ing and have him move up. But just like the long debate of GSP vs Silva or Silva vs Jones it likely won't happen anytime soon.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by tonybui

He already beat those guys, it's time to move up to heavy weights, no questions asked

Originally Posted by speedfreek

With the way Jones beat all those guys I don't see how Dana or the Fertitta's can think any of those rematches will bring big money. Other than a fluke I don't see anyone having any better luck next time. Dan Henderson has a better chance of sneaking in his H-Bomb on him. After this fight I think they quit BS'ing and have him move up. But just like the long debate of GSP vs Silva or Silva vs Jones it likely won't happen anytime soon.

So, you would move Jon Jones out of Light Heavyweight when there is nothing else in that weight class? Pretty much the only good fighter in that weight class, and you'd throw him up with the big boys and risk him getting pwned?

I'd do like they do with Anderson Silva and just keep him right at Light Heavyweight and welcome all comers.

[speedfreek]

Jon Jones dominance is partly due to his size and reach advantage. Given he has a figher's acumen and has developed very good skill set in a short period of time. But his dominance shows he is leagues ahead of everyone else. Which have grown up mostly fighting. Not just getting into in the past 4-5 years like Jones. This is where his size controls a big part of his dominance. He is a freak. Yes he has the right to stay at Light Heavyweight and welcome all comers. The only person I see coming on the horizon and still is a few fights out from even becoming a serious contender is Alex Gustafsson. He has potential but is lacking in key skills to be an actual threat to Jones. If Jones wants to create a legacy he goes out after dominating the field in LHW and moves up to HW after putting on size and keeping his skills up and makes a go of it. If it doesnt work out he can always come back to LHW but it will be harder to cut the weight and as he gets older cutting gets more tedious anyway. It will be interesting in which way he decides to go after another couple fights.

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

So, you would move Jon Jones out of Light Heavyweight when there is nothing else in that weight class? Pretty much the only good fighter in that weight class, and you'd throw him up with the big boys and risk him getting pwned?

I'd do like they do with Anderson Silva and just keep him right at Light Heavyweight and welcome all comers.

I read an article a little while back where they talked to Dana White about moving Jones to heavyweight and it seemed like they didn't want to do that for a while. While he is a beast at 205, there's no guarantee he will do better at heavyweight, especially when there's a good chance he'll be giving up a good 30-40 lbs to some of his opponents. Jones has been good at keeping the fight standing up at 205, but I don't think he can keep doing that against guys who are much bigger than him. I think guys like Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez would be able to put him down and keep them there.

This does however depend on how much weight Jones will actually put on when/if he does make the move up. It will slow him down for sure and just hope it doesn't affect him the same way it seemed to affect GSP. You also have to remember guys at heavyweight hit much harder than those at light heavyweight. Taking punches from JDS is much different than taking punches from Rashad Evans.