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Haboob 04-12-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2264164)
I mean I can understand and appreciate the strategic part of fighting and playing it safe when you're title is on the line, but GSP just takes it to a whole different level. When you just completely dominate and control your opponents like he does, you have no excuse not to finish the fight.

Wasn't that the issue with Silva too? I haven't been into UFC all that long (about four years or so).

However, Silva seems to have change and makes his fights entertaining, even if he's 20x better than his opponent.

Though, I'm a Silva fan, because everyone else seems to hate him. :p :tup:



I cannot wait to see Bones Jones (probably my true fav.) destroy Sonnen. Sonnen is one of the few people I cannot stand... sure, he can talk and is sometimes funny, but the fact that he's talked himself into three title fights w/o ever winning seemingly anything is ridiculous and undeserved.

What would be amazing is if Jones shattered his jaw and it was wired shut for a long, loooong time. :tup:

speedfreek 04-12-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2264191)
Wasn't that the issue with Silva too? I haven't been into UFC all that long (about four years or so).

However, Silva seems to have change and makes his fights entertaining, even if he's 20x better than his opponent.

Though, I'm a Silva fan, because everyone else seems to hate him. :p :tup:



I cannot wait to see Bones Jones (probably my true fav.) destroy Sonnen. Sonnen is one of the few people I cannot stand... sure, he can talk and is sometimes funny, but the fact that he's talked himself into three title fights w/o ever winning seemingly anything is ridiculous and undeserved.

What would be amazing is if Jones shattered his jaw and it was wired shut for a long, loooong time. :tup:

If you watched this season of TUF you would see how Sonnen really is. That is just his schtick love it or hate it when hyping the fight. But as a coach and outside the ring he is actually a pretty nice and thoughful person. He is in the business of entertainment that has a very short life cycle. So if you can talk your way into a few more dollars it is not on him but on how the UFC conducts business. If you want to be mad at anyone it is Dana White and the Fertita brothers... just my take.

Haboob 04-12-2013 04:16 PM

Oh yeah, Dana White pisses me off for allowing this circus show to go on, but if Sonnen wants to act that way he should go join Lesnar in the WWE, because he clearly can't fight in the UFC.

b1adesofcha0s 04-12-2013 05:26 PM

Out of Silva's 16 fight UFC win streak, only 2 ever went to decision and those were the ones he was criticized for. He was kind of dancing around and not really engaging while his opponents were completely hopeless. I am a huge Silva fanboy no matter what anyone else says.

used to hate Sonnen too, until I found out how he actually is. Now I really like him. As much as people say he talked his way to the title shot, don't forget that NO ONE stepped up to fight Jones when Henderson first got injured. Not a single fighter said yes to that fight against Jones, who was too scared himself to fight Sonnen at the time.

Haboob 04-13-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2264414)
Out of Silva's 16 fight UFC win streak, only 2 ever went to decision and those were the ones he was criticized for. He was kind of dancing around and not really engaging while his opponents were completely hopeless. I am a huge Silva fanboy no matter what anyone else says.

used to hate Sonnen too, until I found out how he actually is. Now I really like him. As much as people say he talked his way to the title shot, don't forget that NO ONE stepped up to fight Jones when Henderson first got injured. Not a single fighter said yes to that fight against Jones, who was too scared himself to fight Sonnen at the time.

Then Jones shouldn't be able to lose his title, as Sonnen doesn't deserve a title shot.

A fight? Sure, but not the title should he win - he's done nothing else to earn his way to that point. Same with the second fight vs. Silva.

b1adesofcha0s 04-13-2013 01:39 PM

Now that's just stupid. Also he beat Brian Stann and Michael Bisping to earn his 2nd shot at Silva. That and being the only one who came even close to besting Silva was enough to earn him that 2nd shot.

Vitor Belfort also talked his way into a shot against Jones and nearly beat him as well.

Haboob 04-13-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2265562)
Now that's just stupid. Also he beat Brian Stann and Michael Bisping to earn his 2nd shot at Silva. That and being the only one who came even close to besting Silva was enough to earn him that 2nd shot.

Vitor Belfort also talked his way into a shot against Jones and nearly beat him as well.

I must have missed those fights then, or they weren't televised. I don't recall Sonnen beating anyone.

And I don't think he was "close" to beating Silva. I think Silva was in control the whole time, letting Sonnen do as he please, then ended the fight at the snap of a finger w/the leg triangle.

But we'll never know for sure. Wasn't Sonnen supposed to retire after his second loss to Silva? Too bad he's all talk in every aspect.

b1adesofcha0s 04-13-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2265618)
I must have missed those fights then, or they weren't televised. I don't recall Sonnen beating anyone.

And I don't think he was "close" to beating Silva. I think Silva was in control the whole time, letting Sonnen do as he please, then ended the fight at the snap of a finger w/the leg triangle.

But we'll never know for sure. Wasn't Sonnen supposed to retire after his second loss to Silva? Too bad he's all talk in every aspect.

Sonnen vs Stann was the co-main event for UFC on Fox 2. Sonnen vs Bisping was on UFC 136.

I wouldn't say he ended the fight right when he wanted to, he found an opening and capitalized on it. Sonnen was like 2 mins away from winning the decision which is pretty hard to deny. This is coming from an Anderson Silva fan boy too so it's not a biased opinion. Was definitely one of the best comebacks in UFC history.

SPOHN 04-13-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2265618)
I must have missed those fights then, or they weren't televised. I don't recall Sonnen beating anyone.

And I don't think he was "close" to beating Silva. I think Silva was in control the whole time, letting Sonnen do as he please, then ended the fight at the snap of a finger w/the leg triangle.

But we'll never know for sure. Wasn't Sonnen supposed to retire after his second loss to Silva? Too bad he's all talk in every aspect.

Seriously? I guess he choosed to snap his finger close to the end of the fifth round.

Haboob 04-13-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2265675)
Seriously? I guess he choosed to snap his finger close to the end of the fifth round.

It just seemed that way. Sonnen was the one bloodied. Silva looked like he was barely working out there.

It's unlikely that this was the case, but it's just hard to believe that someone could really take a "beating" for almost twenty-five minutes, then end the fight on his back like Silva did.

Either that or Sonnen punches like a bitch. :icon17: Would fit him well.

SPOHN 04-13-2013 04:46 PM

^ lol. I have to agree to a lot of that

Haboob 04-13-2013 04:53 PM

Maybe Sonnen can take Rogan's place - Rogan seems like he's going through a bit of roid-rage or something each broadcast. It's like, dude... you have a microphone. STOP YELLING INTO IT. :icon17:

Then he just makes random moves up, and that is hilarious.

speedfreek 04-13-2013 05:20 PM

It happens. Look at the GSP vs Shields fight. If you took a snapshot of each fighter at the end of the that fight and asked who won. GSP's face was messed up worse than Shields. Shields looked like he never stepped into the cage. I in no way endorse Shields. I hate him as much as GSP. Guess what......that fight went to decision. But don't worry Big Rig will have something for him after he gets through playing movie star.

b1adesofcha0s 04-13-2013 07:46 PM

I remember in some interview Silva said that he knew Sonnen left himself vulnerable to submissions at times and he was just waiting for the right opportunity. He left himself open towards the end and Silva capitalized on the opportunity. That's just how Anderson Silva is. One little slip against him and he can finish the fight - quite literally the case in their 2nd fight.

SPOHN 04-13-2013 09:29 PM

Women in the UFC is the next best thing. Great stuff!

Haboob 04-13-2013 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2265999)
Women in the UFC is the next best thing. Great stuff!

Eh, I don't know.

I didn't get to see the UFC event w/Rousey, so I can't comment on it much. I just don't see it taking off. There's not a big enough pool of women that want to fight like that... it's more of a macho thing for men, IMO.

Edit: Unless you're talking about more hot ring girls, then I'm in. :tup:x10.

b1adesofcha0s 04-13-2013 10:15 PM

Zingano vs Tate was a really good fight. Ronda Rousey is just a beast.

I'm a bit disappointed by Uriah's performance in the finale fight. He kinda wasted the whole first round trying to be like Anderson Silva and took some big shots. That last takedown at the end pretty much decided the fight for Kelvin.

SPOHN 04-20-2013 06:53 PM

These preliminaries are great tonight.

SPOHN 04-20-2013 07:28 PM

The Matt Brown fight was awesome.

Diaz got his a$$ handed to him.

Nailzs 04-20-2013 08:50 PM

Main event should be good, hopefully better than the heavyweight fight.

b1adesofcha0s 04-21-2013 09:38 PM

That was a great fight between Henderson and Melendez. That was a razor thin decision and I could have seen it going either way. Wouldn't mind seeing a rematch.

SPOHN 04-21-2013 09:53 PM

As good as it was. All the other fights were better. Hell of a fight night.

b1adesofcha0s 04-21-2013 10:10 PM

I've only seen the 2 main fights so far. Still need to go back and watch the rest of them.

6MT 04-21-2013 10:10 PM

Very good card.

raymondo510 04-21-2013 10:54 PM

just planned my trip for UFC 162 wooot!!

Haboob 04-21-2013 11:08 PM

So, I set my DVR to record the fights last night and apparently the cable company didn't set the times right... it ended with a minute and a half left in the second round. :shakes head:

So disappointing.

Was so happy to see Diaz get rocked though. I cannot stand either Diaz brother.

b1adesofcha0s 04-22-2013 08:15 AM

Man that sucks :(

b1adesofcha0s 04-23-2013 09:02 PM

Jon Jones says he wants to surpass Tito Ortiz's record for most LHW title defenses and then look towards superfights and moving up to HW. Beating Sonnen on Saturday would tie him with the record and another win would give him the new record.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jon-jon...3ZlZA--;_ylv=3

SPOHN 04-23-2013 09:11 PM

I just don't see JJ in HW. He would get his a$$ handed to him. Period. JJ fighting Cain, Jr, Bigfoot, and so on. No way

b1adesofcha0s 04-23-2013 09:24 PM

I think if he puts on enough muscle, he could do well there. He would have the advantage in speed/athleticism.

SPOHN 04-23-2013 09:26 PM

In due time I assume. I wonder what weight JJ walks around at?

b1adesofcha0s 04-23-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2281943)
In due time I assume. I wonder what weight JJ walks around at?

I'd guess around 220-230.

MC 04-23-2013 11:21 PM

he actually talked about that on the countdown show tonight..he was talking about how people say he is so much bigger than chael he said its just because he was taller.. He said during TUF coaching he was 225 and chael was about 235 and he felt like the smaller man next to him at times..

GaleForce 04-26-2013 11:21 PM

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SPOHN 04-27-2013 06:30 PM

FTW

Jon Jones 1st TKO
Roy Nelson
Phil Davis
Sara McMann

And I always hope Bisping loses

Sibze 04-27-2013 08:41 PM

Wtf is happening in this UFC lol!

SPOHN 04-27-2013 08:49 PM

seriously

Sibze 04-27-2013 10:53 PM

This is the weirdest fight night ever...

One more fight to go.

SPOHN 04-27-2013 10:56 PM

Roy Nelson was great

Sibze 04-27-2013 10:57 PM

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Roy Nelson was great

Crazy crazy power


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