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[Rooster89]

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Looks like they just announced Koshcheck vs Ellenberger as the co-main event for Jones vs Henderson. Looks like that card just got a lot more interesting.

I think I am one of the few koshcheck fans left after he lost to GSP. He is great to watch tho.

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by Rooster89

I think I am one of the few koshcheck fans left after he lost to GSP. He is great to watch tho.

I still like Koshcheck. I think the fight might have gone differently if he hadn't had his eye taken out with the first punch of the fight.

[Rooster89]

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I still like Koshcheck. I think the fight might have gone differently if he hadn't had his eye taken out with the first punch of the fight.

The thing is though, I still think GSP is the most intelligent fighter in the UFC. The man's biggest strength is his intelligence and training game plan. I personally think he is more dangerous than Silva, just because of that. But Kos is a beast with a fire under his ***. and he is funny as hell

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Really? I'd take Carwin to win the fight. I see Nelson acting as the punching bag for this fight. Sure Carwin will gas out but still land enough points to get the decision.

On looks alone, Nelson is never anyone's favorite. He's got a gut, not a very long reach, he's short. But dude has mad skills. I like both fighters, ought to be a good one.

Originally Posted by Rooster89

I think I am one of the few koshcheck fans left after he lost to GSP. He is great to watch tho.

I hate all the sh*t talking that Kos does. He's a great fighter and is classy in victory and defeat, but he doesn't need all that bs trash talk.

[Rooster89]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

On looks alone, Nelson is never anyone's favorite. He's got a gut, not a very long reach, he's short. But dude has mad skills. I like both fighters, ought to be a good one.

I hate all the sh*t talking that Kos does. He's a great fighter and is classy in victory and defeat, but he doesn't need all that bs trash talk.

That trash talking, I hate to say, pays for itself. It hypes up the fight and raises attendance. I would love if it didn't have to happen, but until the UFC is bigger...

Why is redneck soap opera (wwf/wcw) still bigger and more profitable? The consumer controls the market.

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

On looks alone, Nelson is never anyone's favorite. He's got a gut, not a very long reach, he's short. But dude has mad skills. I like both fighters, ought to be a good one.

I hate all the sh*t talking that Kos does. He's a great fighter and is classy in victory and defeat, but he doesn't need all that bs trash talk.

I'm not going by looks though, I'm going by the fights I've seen him in. Did you see him fight Werdum? He looked like he was just an oversized punching bag

[speedfreek]

I've never liked Big Boy Roy, the thing he has is he can take a punch to deliver. Over time that will start wear down if he lasts that long and can continue stringing along a few wins along with his losses. I think he should have to cut that huge beard he is rocking these days. Gives his chin some cushion. But when he faces Carwin and has to eat one of those lunch boxes I think he will see lights out that night.

Kos what can you say about Kos that hasn't already been said. Don't particularly like him or hate him. I for one like the trash talking and ramping up of the fight. It makes it more interesting if they make it personal. Think back of the antics Mike Tyson used to pull at the pre-fight conferences. After his career was over he stated that he would have the fight won before his opponent would even step into the ring. Getting in someones head is part of the fight.


Who is watching the fights Saturday? I will not be buying this card and hopefully make it to the local BWW or B Dubs as I like to call them or any place that is carrying the fight.

I hope Faber can get past Barao. I really want him to beat Cruz to close out their trilogy.

I am also curious to see how Lombard does against Boestch. Can a Bellator fighter succeed in the UFC? Is he the real deal or just beating up on B class talent.

[shadoquad]

Hate on Roy all you like, fellas, he's a winner. He's knocked out guys who were favored, guys who were taller, longer, etc. I like him because he's the anti-Jon Jones. You look at his physique and think, "whaaaa?"

Trash talk is bush league bullcrap. It's just drama. I prefer when fighters show respect and discipline, reflecting the nature of martial arts, not the melodramatic WWE bs. Even Spider Silva got into the act, and I've lost some respect for him because of it.

[b1adesofcha0s]

I don't mind Roy, definitely an interesting personality. I just don't think he will win this specific fight. He hasn't done too well against top level heavy weights with heavy hands. His 3 UFC losses were to JDS, Frank Mir, and Fabricio Werdum. I see Carwin throwing punches in bunches and eventually gassing out around the 3rd round. Last 2 rounds will probably be your typical HW whale slugfest. I think Carwin gets the win by decision. Of course either of them could land a good punch at any time and end the fight.

I don't like the trash talk either, but I have to admit it gets me way more excited for the fight. I think Sonnen went too far in the comments disrespecting Silva's wife and country and I was actually happy to see Silva finally say something.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I don't like the trash talk either, but I have to admit it gets me way more excited for the fight. I think Sonnen went too far in the comments disrespecting Silva's wife and country and I was actually happy to see Silva finally say something.

Didn't change my opinion of the fight a bit. I was excited because the last one was so close. I knew Sonnen was a trash talker. His words are meaningless. I would have rather Silva shown class, shown that he is the bigger man, as others have in the past.

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

Didn't change my opinion of the fight a bit. I was excited because the last one was so close. I knew Sonnen was a trash talker. His words are meaningless. I would have rather Silva shown class, shown that he is the bigger man, as others have in the past.

I don't like the fact that it got me more excited for the fight, but it did. I would have preferred that Silva show some more class but it is what it is.

[speedfreek]

I think you all are getting to caught up in this being Daniel-san and Mr. Miagi type martial arts. These are regular people who chose MMA as a lucrative business to compete in with their talents...some more than others. All walks of life are getting into the sport...so to not like someone cuz they cultivate some alter ego or naturally like to trash talk is one thing but it will never be a "true" martial arts contest in that sense. They have those martial arts displays where they break boards and stuff.

But Silva got heated and went off it happens. He showed his class at the end of the fight when he congratulated Sonnen for the fight and said that even though he said all that crap Brazil still loved him or something to that effect...I had been drinking a few and can't remember exactly how he phrased it so sue me. But you get the point. Sonnen also congratulated Silva. Sonnen uses his mouth to make him more money. You know how many more people bought that fight to see if he could beat Silva after all that trash talk and hype. Sadly it didn't live up to the hype of the first one but that is not the point. Silva and the UFC profited off of Sonnen's ability to trash talk and to do it quite well.

[Rooster89]

Originally Posted by speedfreek

I think you all are getting to caught up in this being Daniel-san and Mr. Miagi type martial arts. These are regular people who chose MMA as a lucrative business to compete in with their talents...some more than others. All walks of life are getting into the sport...so to not like someone cuz they cultivate some alter ego or naturally like to trash talk is one thing but it will never be a "true" martial arts contest in that sense. They have those martial arts displays where they break boards and stuff.

But Silva got heated and went off it happens. He showed his class at the end of the fight when he congratulated Sonnen for the fight and said that even though he said all that crap Brazil still loved him or something to that effect...I had been drinking a few and can't remember exactly how he phrased it so sue me. But you get the point. Sonnen also congratulated Silva. Sonnen uses his mouth to make him more money. You know how many more people bought that fight to see if he could beat Silva after all that trash talk and hype. Sadly it didn't leave up to the hype of the first one but that is not the point. Silva and the UFC profited off of Sonnen's ability to trash talk and to do it quite well.

but but but but but but but I waxed on and waxed off!

[Rooster89]

I'd like to see Faber rise to the top again. He was always one of my favorites. Just so entertaining and seems like a really good guy, you know.

I think when you have trash talkers, it raises revenue, but also makes the gentlemanly fighters look that much better. Kos is one of those guys who trash talks before a fight, then he immediately gets classy again right before during and after the fight. So you know his trash talk is just about raising hype. The fact that he went up and HUGGED GSP after their last one blew me away.

I think we will all remember that line about brock lesnar eating a burrito

[shadoquad]

Just sayin', I'd rather them prove it with their fists and grappling ability than their flapping gums.

It's gonna get so played out. It's like when beef starts up at boxing weigh-ins. It's so staged. You know it's acting. Same with the UFC hype. Same with WWE "back stage interviews".

If all that crap, all that fluff, appeals to you, then go ahead and watch it for that. I watch it for what goes on in the ring. If a fighter needs to use trash talk to get in someone's head, it's to compensate for their shortcomings elsewhere. True champs don't need to talk. The belt around their waist says everything.

Fighters do all manner of things to try and intimidate their opponents, and it's all circus crap. Doing cartwheels around the ring, not fist-bumping, flexing. Whatever. Put up or shut up.