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Lemers · 05-01-2013, 07:38 AM

I remeber when 200 wins was only a step towards 300. Are we going to lower our standards and consider 200 a HOF career?

Haboob · 05-01-2013, 08:32 AM

Pitchers have changed.

It's unfortunate. You no longer have those horses that can throw CG's (with the exception of three to four, it used to be a lot more). You no longer have those brute power pitchers (such as RJ51) either.

200 wins is going to be the new milestone. We won't see another 300 winner in our lifetime I don't think. Not with how much sports are being sissied up.

Lemers · 05-01-2013, 03:29 PM

I think 300 is very possible even without getting a 20 win season

The hardest part for a MLB pitcher will be longevity.

17 years ave 30 GA and 18 wins a season with 12 losses gives you 306 wins and 204 loss at 600% winning percentage.

PapoZalsa · 05-01-2013, 06:51 PM

I think the game has changed, the season is too long and they keep adding games. Players and especially pitchers get worn out.

Also any performance enhancer will work for some years then eat there bodies away.

There only a few dominants pitchers in the game now, compare the players now with the old ones totally different.

Now everything is about power. Before was about small ball and ability.

The days of a players like Carl Ripken Jr. are over.

Haboob · 05-01-2013, 11:40 PM

My head is about to explode.

Our bullpen (Hernandez and Putz) has blown ANOTHER save. That's 10 this season.

Unreal. I just don't get why Gibson sticks with these guys over and over. It boggles the mind. It's like he isn't seeing what is going on.

The definition of insanity is: Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.

Kirk Gibson has gone insane.

/rant /crying

edub370 · 05-02-2013, 08:54 AM

guys... i just have to say, as a long time royals fan, its nice to be actually competing this year

PapoZalsa · 05-02-2013, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370

guys... i just have to say, as a long time royals fan, its nice to be actually competing this year

KC has not been on the map since George Brett retired.

Lemers · 05-02-2013, 09:39 PM

And they won't be on the radar in September.

PapoZalsa · 05-04-2013, 05:08 PM

"Robinson Cano opened the sixth innining today against the A's with his 344th career double, tying Mickey Mantle for eighth place in Yankees history".

Lemers · 05-04-2013, 08:40 PM

That's an achievement.

Haboob · 05-05-2013, 10:18 PM

The wheels have officially fallen off.

Lost a series to the Padres.

Almost makes me want to sell my tickets and stop watching. Seems like nothing is being done to remedy the issue: Our "ace" sucks, we have Brandon McCarthy (sucks more), and our bullpen sucks the most (aside from three guys).

But I guess I'll hang in there.

Lemers · 05-06-2013, 06:44 AM

Red Sox dropped 3 to the rangers.

.

I know you can't win them all but a sweep just isn't good.

Haboob · 05-07-2013, 07:47 PM

Happ tried to do his best Brandon McCarthy impression by blocking a line drive with his head:

Blue Jays starter J.A. Happ was struck in the head by a line drive on Tuesday | MLB.com: News

Haboob · 05-09-2013, 12:10 AM

Swept by the Giants.

Lost 2/3 to the Padres.

Swept the Doyers.

PapoZalsa · 05-09-2013, 08:31 PM

"Robinson Cano tallied hit No. 1,500 today".

05-01-2013, 07:38 AM	#391 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	I remeber when 200 wins was only a step towards 300. Are we going to lower our standards and consider 200 a HOF career? __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

05-01-2013, 03:29 PM	#393 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	I think 300 is very possible even without getting a 20 win season The hardest part for a MLB pitcher will be longevity. 17 years ave 30 GA and 18 wins a season with 12 losses gives you 306 wins and 204 loss at 600% winning percentage. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

05-01-2013, 06:51 PM	#394 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4499	I think the game has changed, the season is too long and they keep adding games. Players and especially pitchers get worn out. Also any performance enhancer will work for some years then eat there bodies away. There only a few dominants pitchers in the game now, compare the players now with the old ones totally different. Now everything is about power. Before was about small ball and ability. The days of a players like Carl Ripken Jr. are over. Haboob likes this. __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs

05-01-2013, 11:40 PM	#395 (permalink)
Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1387	My head is about to explode. Our bullpen (Hernandez and Putz) has blown *ANOTHER* save. That's 10 this season. Unreal. I just don't get why Gibson sticks with these guys over and over. It boggles the mind. It's like he isn't seeing what is going on. The definition of insanity is: Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. Kirk Gibson has gone insane. /rant /crying Last edited by Haboob; 05-02-2013 at 08:57 AM.

05-02-2013, 08:54 AM	#396 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 20	guys... i just have to say, as a long time royals fan, its nice to be actually competing this year __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

05-01-2013, 08:32 AM	#392 (permalink)
Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1387	Pitchers have changed. It's unfortunate. You no longer have those horses that can throw CG's (with the exception of three to four, it used to be a lot more). You no longer have those brute power pitchers (such as RJ51) either. 200 wins is going to be the new milestone. We won't see another 300 winner in our lifetime I don't think. Not with how much sports are being sissied up.

05-02-2013, 09:39 PM	#398 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	And they won't be on the radar in September. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

05-04-2013, 05:08 PM	#399 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4499	"Robinson Cano opened the sixth innining today against the A's with his 344th career double, tying Mickey Mantle for eighth place in Yankees history". __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs

05-04-2013, 08:40 PM	#400 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	That's an achievement. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

05-05-2013, 10:18 PM	#401 (permalink)
Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1387	The wheels have officially fallen off. Lost a series to the Padres. Almost makes me want to sell my tickets and stop watching. Seems like nothing is being done to remedy the issue: Our "ace" sucks, we have Brandon McCarthy (sucks more), and our bullpen sucks the most (aside from three guys). But I guess I'll hang in there.

05-06-2013, 06:44 AM	#402 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	Red Sox dropped 3 to the rangers. . I know you can't win them all but a sweep just isn't good. Haboob likes this. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

05-07-2013, 07:47 PM	#403 (permalink)
Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1387	Happ tried to do his best Brandon McCarthy impression by blocking a line drive with his head: Blue Jays starter J.A. Happ was struck in the head by a line drive on Tuesday \| MLB.com: News

05-09-2013, 12:10 AM	#404 (permalink)
Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1387	Swept by the Giants. Lost 2/3 to the Padres. Swept the Doyers. Last edited by Haboob; 05-09-2013 at 12:57 AM.

05-09-2013, 08:31 PM	#405 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4499	"Robinson Cano tallied hit No. 1,500 today". __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs