Brock Lesnar

shadoquad · 10-25-2010, 05:48 PM

UFC is less physical than WWE. In UFC, most of the physical punishment is training for the fight. And then you're only at serious risk for, what, a few seconds to a MAX of 25 minutes (in a title bout that goes the distance).

In WWE, it's phony, but those guys get slammed and thrown and jump off of railings, etc, etc... It's physically taxing. And they do several shows a month, with some matches lasting a half hour or more.

GZ3 · 10-26-2010, 05:19 PM

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im a huge undertaker fan i can remember seeing him on my 14th Bday and getting this foam tombstone....

i was so intrigued by this i did some research and read up on a few wrestling sites and blogs... according to them:

it seems that the "wanna do it"... wasnt like you want to fight right now... it was a taunt to take WWE up on a rumored offer to headline against him at next years wrestlemania....

turns out they do have real life beef over brock choosing to quit the WWE for the NFL right as he was supposed to go and do a bunch of house shows(non televised events for non wrestling fans) against the undertaker in order to build up takers character in an upcoming fued....

so yeah looks like WWE wants to offer brock a **** load of $ for 1 more match against undertaker which could be takers retirement match

but yeah im sure brock didnt appreciate the timing of the proposal with his face split half open and doing to walk of shame back to the locker room

i didnt know all that, i read about him wanting brock in wwe...but i didnt know about the REAL beef. The timming on his comment is epic now that i know this.

Pharmacist · 12-04-2010, 12:15 PM

the thing with brock is that he's really not all that talented or skillful. he made it so far because he has an amazing combination of strength, speed, and agility. but his technique is very flawed. he lacks any stand up striking ability, and he doesn't know much grappling on the ground. specifically, if he ends up in the bottom he just has no clue what to do. and he knows next to nothing about submissions. really, if it wasn't for his physical strength and athleticism, and the fame he gained from WWE, he would have been a nobody in MMA. And to think people actually believed he can defeat fedor

CBRich · 12-04-2010, 12:29 PM

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the thing with brock is that he's really not all that talented or skillful. he made it so far because he has an amazing combination of strength, speed, and agility. but his technique is very flawed. he lacks any stand up striking ability, and he doesn't know much grappling on the ground. specifically, if he ends up in the bottom he just has no clue what to do. and he knows next to nothing about submissions. really, if it wasn't for his physical strength and athleticism, and the fame he gained from WWE, he would have been a nobody in MMA. And to think people actually believed he can defeat fedor

I wouldn't say he wouldn't have made it anywhere in MMA. His strength, speed, and athleticism more than make up for any flaws that anyone but a very high level heavyweight could expose. He would still have made it to the UFC. There's not a single amateur or out there who he wouldn't have plowed straight through.

tonybui · 12-12-2010, 01:30 PM

What's JDS?

Jquad · 12-20-2010, 03:20 AM

He got rocked and Pwned!!!

CBRich · 12-20-2010, 07:55 AM

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What's JDS?

Junior dos Santos. A heavyweight with super crisp striking. It's gonna be a great fight.

bigpapapump · 01-30-2011, 05:39 PM

santos vs - cain is a broing fight ur forgetting something a wrestler will stick to wrestling if he is out classed on his feet.. Remember that

SPOHN · 01-30-2011, 08:14 PM

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santos vs - cain is a broing fight ur forgetting something a wrestler will stick to wrestling if he is out classed on his feet.. Remember that

How to you get that? Both are KO artist and well rounded technical figthers.

MC · 01-30-2011, 09:15 PM

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How to you get that? Both are KO artist and well rounded technical figthers.

i agree no way it can be boring look at their last handful of fights each... this is one of the best possible match ups you are gonna see this year... just got to wait for JDS to smash lesnar this spring first....

SPOHN · 01-30-2011, 09:23 PM

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i agree no way it can be boring look at their last handful of fights each... this is one of the best possible match ups you are gonna see this year... just got to wait for JDS to smash lesnar this spring first....

I think that this fight is happing in the spring. I don't think JDS has to fight Brock.

MC · 01-30-2011, 11:19 PM

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I think that this fight is happing in the spring. I don't think JDS has to fight Brock.

no he is.... the coaches are fighting 100%... cain is recovering from a shoulder surgery and is prbobaly out until late summer/fall

dos santos is basically risking is #1 conteder slot... but he said he didnt want to wait on cain to heal so thats why he took the the coach gig

just looked..the match is slated for UFC 131 in june... that means best case he would fight cain maybe Oct-Nov ish

SPOHN · 01-31-2011, 12:55 PM

Oh Ok. I heard about the shoulder surgery. Didn't know how long it was going to take. I'd love to see Brock get killed again. He'll probably retire this time around.

MC · 01-31-2011, 09:10 PM

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Oh Ok. I heard about the shoulder surgery. Didn't know how long it was going to take. I'd love to see Brock get killed again. He'll probably retire this time around.

there was a rumor he wanted to go back to WWE for wrestlemania for a one time big pay day...but Dana white said he was under contract and refused to let him....

i dont think you have to worry about him loosing again... i think JDS will beat him as bad or worse than cain if thats possible.... his flaw has been exposed thanks the carwin who gave everyone the blueprint.... out of all the heavy weights brock could have fought next... JDS has got to be the worst match up for him... go back and watch the JDS vs Werdum thats gonna be how it takes brock out in june!

SPOHN · 01-31-2011, 09:36 PM

I agree with that. But I didn't want to see Brock and Mir again just yet. What ever happend to Tim Sliva since he had his arm broke? That's been quite awhile since that happened.

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