NBA Finals??

Namir · 05-24-2009, 01:08 AM

Go cavs!

That's all... I don't really know too much about basketball :\
I'm more of a hockey fan

shumby · 05-24-2009, 06:30 AM

GO hockey

molamann · 05-24-2009, 04:48 PM

Go high school lacrosse

Asheth · 05-24-2009, 05:10 PM

Lakers fan here! That was a good Win!! Tough win! I was suprised Luke gave a good spark to the Team. Andrew Bynum is hovering just above Kwame Brown level right now I am really disappointed with his play in the playoffs. He jumps at everything and gets into foul trouble and please somebody give that boy a Jumpshot!

arcticreaver · 05-25-2009, 12:12 AM

for andrew i think it's because this is his first playoff, and we have to count in the injury. he's not too comfy out there but for a good reason, dude missed like 30+ games again this season.

nuggets will respond hard in game 4 but the lake show needs to step up the intensity and just play some good o' fashion basketball. i'm taking some hard fouls in the paint. i'd rather make nuggets a jump shooting team because other than melo and mr. big shot, no one else is consistent with their shots from 15 feet.

offense boards are getting us killed. we got 3 7 footers, so we need to insert them well into the game and have them go at the boards hard.

the triangle will dictate the offense but lamar needs to bring 2 of his A games in this series and it's game, set, match. because other than gasol, bryant, and ariza, no one else is stable in terms of shooting.

sasha is cold, luke is a passer at heart, and fisher is an old shell of himself most times. shannon brown and farmar need to try and step up the game with their fast tempo.

or we can just let the mamba light nuggets up for 81 points.

ct63084 · 05-25-2009, 12:31 AM

Man i love lebron i think he's a really good player and im rooting for him this series, but holy crap he keeps choking on this free throws lol wth he's too busy practicing all his trick shots than his free throws. He relies too much on his driving abilities and jacking up threes. I think he should practice on his pop up jumpshot and he should develop his postoffense and fade away with his size and strength he would be unstoppable. Lol I always watch basketball with my cousin and he swears LBJ is better than MJ. In game 1 i whispered to him "MJ scored 63 against one of the best teams the celtics in the playoffs and played two OT and never got tired" and today I whispered "MJ never miss free throws wen it counts." Lol all this young guys need to stop comparing lebron to MJ cause MJ is untoucheable even the great kobe can't be put on the same sentence as MJ.

arcticreaver · 05-25-2009, 01:10 PM

lebron is not clutch. no clutch player misses free throws. kobe is a complete stud when it comes to games down that stretch that puts him to the line.

i agree with ct - lebrick? well, he just bricks. i never liked lebron's game. he has the body and never really posts up. great players always develop the post move - malone, kobe, jordan, pierce, etc.

lebrick is just not a good enough shooter at this time. but if he can still develop he's going to be scary.

arcticreaver · 05-27-2009, 12:15 AM

mo williams jinxed the cavs.

i think the cavs are good but damn, down 3-1, a huge hole to get out of. if lebron gets his team out of this hole, it will be one of his greatest feats in his career.

zman1910 · 05-27-2009, 05:23 PM

The Cavs aren't losing bc of Lebron.....and maybe you guys haven't watched him enough but his jumpshot is much much better than previously. If Lebron doesn't post, it's not bc he doesn't want to..it's bc Mike Brown isn't running the offense that way.

The Cavs are losing bc they have no other person that can score the ball. Mo was automatic in the reg season. He can't buy a shot in the playoffs. Most of these games could've gone either way with the exception of game 3. If the Cavs win at home tomorrow, I still think they could pull the series out. It will be tough but I still think if there is one team that could do it....it's the Cavs.

I question Mike Brown and his ability to coach. When I saw him make the switch to put Wallace on Rashard last night.....I practically cringed. When the hell did Wallace become a perimeter defender!? Didn't you all see that coming?

I've been saying this all along....Lebron's post game is amazing, but Mike Brown never uses it.....why? who the hell knows

MB does not equal COY.

arcticreaver · 05-27-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by zman1910

The Cavs aren't losing bc of Lebron.....and maybe you guys haven't watched him enough but his jumpshot is much much better than previously. If Lebron doesn't post, it's not bc he doesn't want to..it's bc Mike Brown isn't running the offense that way.

The Cavs are losing bc they have no other person that can score the ball. Mo was automatic in the reg season. He can't buy a shot in the playoffs. Most of these games could've gone either way with the exception of game 3. If the Cavs win at home tomorrow, I still think they could pull the series out. It will be tough but I still think if there is one team that could do it....it's the Cavs.

I question Mike Brown and his ability to coach. When I saw him make the switch to put Wallace on Rashard last night.....I practically cringed. When the hell did Wallace become a perimeter defender!? Didn't you all see that coming?

I've been saying this all along....Lebron's post game is amazing, but Mike Brown never uses it.....why? who the hell knows

MB does not equal COY.

i never liked mike brown's decisions. i've watched him quite a bit. before all they did for offense was pick and rolls with no real way to score the ball all that well unless lebron did some one on one moves.

i would like lebron to post because if he decides to kick the ball out to his shooters and if the shooters miss he has the body and height to get the offense boards.

i think lebron improves every year but i just don't want to admit it. BUT like i said, the interior for the cavs are a problem. joe smith, big ben, and zeke doesn't really do anything significant. i must admit that zeke has been one of the most consistent big men in the game today but being consistent is not good enough, he needs to score. cavs needed a player like gooden but they traded him away. that guy would have quite a few good games posting near 20 and 10 a night. but now the interior is OLD.

05-27-2009, 08:21 PM

Go Denver! I hate LA lol

ct63084 · 05-28-2009, 02:22 PM

Well the Magic always give a Cavs a hard time even during the regular season and yes the CAVS are losing because of lebron. If the Cavs are winning right now everyone will give him credit but if they are losing suddenly it's not his fault. It's not like the magic is blowing them out, actually most of the time the Cavs usually have a big lead till the 4th quarter the games are always close, and Lebron doesn't deliver on the free throws during the last two minutes it kinda pisses me off as a Lebron fan to see him practice his trick shot in youtube and he can't even shoot a damn Free throw. Lol dwight howard out free throwed LBJ. I remember almost pulling my hair out when he barely made that last free throw at 4th quarter at game 4 he got lucky with the bounce.

Then he jacks up Three pointers, he needs to totally take that shot away from his arsenal he needs to develop a pop up jumpshot to throw defenders off, and a fadeaway shot and with his driving abilities he is going to be crazy. Yes he really did improve his J but still not consistent and lol Lebron has one of the ugliest shooting form in the NBA sometimes i don't even know how his shots go in. Everyone makes so much of a big deal on his Statistics and PER but it takes more than numbers to win Championship, this might be hard to swallow for me but i don't think the Cavs is advancing to the finals. I know i might be a lil hard on my criticism but i have a lot of expectations from him. Oh yeah it also hurts when you are getting out coached lol lebron on alston seriously?

zman1910 · 05-28-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ct63084

Well the Magic always give a Cavs a hard time even during the regular season and yes the CAVS are losing because of lebron.

Your crazy if you think Lebron is losing it for the Cavs. He's done exactly what he's done all year and more. He's scored 40+ in every single game this series. He's not the greatest free throw shooter, but he still makes the majority of them...considering that he takes the most free throws in the NBA.

Mo Williams, on the other hand, was a 90+% free throw shooter and has missed more free throws than he has all season long. Forget the fact that he couldn't bribe the bball to go in the hoop. He's been the biggest flop this postseason. Lebron has tried to carry his team as a result of no other offense. He's somewhat succeeded, but you can't ask him to revert to his old ways when this entire season it was a team effort.

IMO the coaching is at fault here for at least one of the losses....game 4. Seriously.....James on Alston?? Ben guarding the perimeter on Lewis? This has got to be a joke. Combine this with the fact that Lebron needs at least one other offensively skilled player to create for himself....that was supposed to be Mo Williams. You take him out of the question and we are back to Lebron basketball of the previous years.

arcticreaver · 05-28-2009, 04:06 PM

mike brown doesn't know coaching. he is going to get the boot if the cavs aren't going to make it to the finals with the season that they had.

lebron isn't costing games for the cavs. basketball is a team sport. the whole team lost the games they've lost so far in the conference finals. why? coaching, the bench not really getting anywhere, and starters except lebron, who can't score or make a stop.

a lot of burden is on lebron - passing, rebounding, and scoring. which is crazy because they have a legitimate point guard in mo williams, and 2 legitimate power forward and center in wallace and zeke. but they aren't doing their job.

mo williams got punked and jinxed the series for the cavs. if it wasn't for lebron's lucky 3 pointer, this series would have been OVER already! i never thought lebron had good supporting cast around him. not even this year. they played great basketball in during the regular season but it's all about the playoffs.

against a legitimate contender like orlando or the celtics, it is a different story. atlanta and philly are good teams, but they aren't championship contenders yet, just in the playoff run or good enough to be in the playoffs. not like the west where any team from 1-5 spot are pretty much contenders.

i think the cavs season is coming to a close tonight. their core needs to be changed with the exception of lebron. they need shooters and defenders. wallace was a mistake to begin with, zeke is old, and mo williams is inconsistent.

with that said, the orlando magics are a huge team. they have length and they play defense. 3 of the 5 starters can knock down 3s and have 20+ point games. they got height and they are long. younger, faster, and more atheltic.

magic pose a great deal of trouble for every team in the NBA. if the Lake show meets up with the magics in the finals, it's a 7 game series, no question.

phelan · 05-28-2009, 04:38 PM

i don't think it's gonna signal the end of mike brown. i do agree with the point that basketball is a team sport, etc. etc. it is, however, a complete shame that the cavs can't take advantage of lebron's 42/7/7 numbers. 42/7/7. i mean, seriously. LBJ is a god walking amongst mortals.

but look at the offense. in game 4, mo and delonte had a whole bunch of wide open looks that they normally bury. this series, however, both have gone stone cold from 3 pt range. these are guys that are ~40% for the season! mo came out on fire, too, but then his jumpshot went as wayward as ray allen's in the last series. but the point is, they're getting open looks, they're just not hitting their shots. so you can't fault the plan 100%, you fault the execution as well.

orlando is the nightmare matchup for them, and for the rest of the league, as well. it's not just 3 guys on the perimeter, it's 4, + superman manning the paint. rashard and hedo have been clutch all year long (haha, hedo being clutch...how things have changed...), and they're just outhustling the slower cavs.

game 4 was disgusting, though. superstar call to take it to OT? give me a break already, i hate the refs enough as it is.

05-24-2009, 01:08 AM	#76 (permalink)
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05-24-2009, 06:30 AM	#77 (permalink)
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05-25-2009, 12:12 AM	#80 (permalink)
arcticreaver Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 769 Drives: 2009 Z34 7AT PG Rep Power: 924	for andrew i think it's because this is his first playoff, and we have to count in the injury. he's not too comfy out there but for a good reason, dude missed like 30+ games again this season. nuggets will respond hard in game 4 but the lake show needs to step up the intensity and just play some good o' fashion basketball. i'm taking some hard fouls in the paint. i'd rather make nuggets a jump shooting team because other than melo and mr. big shot, no one else is consistent with their shots from 15 feet. offense boards are getting us killed. we got 3 7 footers, so we need to insert them well into the game and have them go at the boards hard. the triangle will dictate the offense but lamar needs to bring 2 of his A games in this series and it's game, set, match. because other than gasol, bryant, and ariza, no one else is stable in terms of shooting. sasha is cold, luke is a passer at heart, and fisher is an old shell of himself most times. shannon brown and farmar need to try and step up the game with their fast tempo. or we can just let the mamba light nuggets up for 81 points. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/arcticreaver - FaceBook http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sam-yang/a/832/325 - LinkedIn Profile

05-25-2009, 01:10 PM	#82 (permalink)
arcticreaver Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 769 Drives: 2009 Z34 7AT PG Rep Power: 924	lebron is not clutch. no clutch player misses free throws. kobe is a complete stud when it comes to games down that stretch that puts him to the line. i agree with ct - lebrick? well, he just bricks. i never liked lebron's game. he has the body and never really posts up. great players always develop the post move - malone, kobe, jordan, pierce, etc. lebrick is just not a good enough shooter at this time. but if he can still develop he's going to be scary. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/arcticreaver - FaceBook http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sam-yang/a/832/325 - LinkedIn Profile

05-24-2009, 04:48 PM	#78 (permalink)
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05-25-2009, 12:31 AM	#81 (permalink)
ct63084 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: FAIRFIELD CA Posts: 219 Drives: 2004 MAZDA3 Rep Power: 16	Man i love lebron i think he's a really good player and im rooting for him this series, but holy crap he keeps choking on this free throws lol wth he's too busy practicing all his trick shots than his free throws. He relies too much on his driving abilities and jacking up threes. I think he should practice on his pop up jumpshot and he should develop his postoffense and fade away with his size and strength he would be unstoppable. Lol I always watch basketball with my cousin and he swears LBJ is better than MJ. In game 1 i whispered to him "MJ scored 63 against one of the best teams the celtics in the playoffs and played two OT and never got tired" and today I whispered "MJ never miss free throws wen it counts." Lol all this young guys need to stop comparing lebron to MJ cause MJ is untoucheable even the great kobe can't be put on the same sentence as MJ.

05-27-2009, 12:15 AM	#83 (permalink)
arcticreaver Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 769 Drives: 2009 Z34 7AT PG Rep Power: 924	mo williams jinxed the cavs. i think the cavs are good but damn, down 3-1, a huge hole to get out of. if lebron gets his team out of this hole, it will be one of his greatest feats in his career. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/arcticreaver - FaceBook http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sam-yang/a/832/325 - LinkedIn Profile

05-27-2009, 05:23 PM	#84 (permalink)
zman1910 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: FL Posts: 361 Drives: 2011 Audi S4 Rep Power: 429	The Cavs aren't losing bc of Lebron.....and maybe you guys haven't watched him enough but his jumpshot is much much better than previously. If Lebron doesn't post, it's not bc he doesn't want to..it's bc Mike Brown isn't running the offense that way. The Cavs are losing bc they have no other person that can score the ball. Mo was automatic in the reg season. He can't buy a shot in the playoffs. Most of these games could've gone either way with the exception of game 3. If the Cavs win at home tomorrow, I still think they could pull the series out. It will be tough but I still think if there is one team that could do it....it's the Cavs. I question Mike Brown and his ability to coach. When I saw him make the switch to put Wallace on Rashard last night.....I practically cringed. When the hell did Wallace become a perimeter defender!? Didn't you all see that coming? I've been saying this all along....Lebron's post game is amazing, but Mike Brown never uses it.....why? who the hell knows MB does not equal COY.

05-27-2009, 08:21 PM	#86 (permalink)
blue660r01 Guest Posts: n/a	Go Denver! I hate LA lol

05-28-2009, 02:22 PM	#87 (permalink)
ct63084 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: FAIRFIELD CA Posts: 219 Drives: 2004 MAZDA3 Rep Power: 16	Well the Magic always give a Cavs a hard time even during the regular season and yes the CAVS are losing because of lebron. If the Cavs are winning right now everyone will give him credit but if they are losing suddenly it's not his fault. It's not like the magic is blowing them out, actually most of the time the Cavs usually have a big lead till the 4th quarter the games are always close, and Lebron doesn't deliver on the free throws during the last two minutes it kinda pisses me off as a Lebron fan to see him practice his trick shot in youtube and he can't even shoot a damn Free throw. Lol dwight howard out free throwed LBJ. I remember almost pulling my hair out when he barely made that last free throw at 4th quarter at game 4 he got lucky with the bounce. Then he jacks up Three pointers, he needs to totally take that shot away from his arsenal he needs to develop a pop up jumpshot to throw defenders off, and a fadeaway shot and with his driving abilities he is going to be crazy. Yes he really did improve his J but still not consistent and lol Lebron has one of the ugliest shooting form in the NBA sometimes i don't even know how his shots go in. Everyone makes so much of a big deal on his Statistics and PER but it takes more than numbers to win Championship, this might be hard to swallow for me but i don't think the Cavs is advancing to the finals. I know i might be a lil hard on my criticism but i have a lot of expectations from him. Oh yeah it also hurts when you are getting out coached lol lebron on alston seriously?

05-28-2009, 04:06 PM	#89 (permalink)
arcticreaver Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 769 Drives: 2009 Z34 7AT PG Rep Power: 924	mike brown doesn't know coaching. he is going to get the boot if the cavs aren't going to make it to the finals with the season that they had. lebron isn't costing games for the cavs. basketball is a team sport. the whole team lost the games they've lost so far in the conference finals. why? coaching, the bench not really getting anywhere, and starters except lebron, who can't score or make a stop. a lot of burden is on lebron - passing, rebounding, and scoring. which is crazy because they have a legitimate point guard in mo williams, and 2 legitimate power forward and center in wallace and zeke. but they aren't doing their job. mo williams got punked and jinxed the series for the cavs. if it wasn't for lebron's lucky 3 pointer, this series would have been OVER already! i never thought lebron had good supporting cast around him. not even this year. they played great basketball in during the regular season but it's all about the playoffs. against a legitimate contender like orlando or the celtics, it is a different story. atlanta and philly are good teams, but they aren't championship contenders yet, just in the playoff run or good enough to be in the playoffs. not like the west where any team from 1-5 spot are pretty much contenders. i think the cavs season is coming to a close tonight. their core needs to be changed with the exception of lebron. they need shooters and defenders. wallace was a mistake to begin with, zeke is old, and mo williams is inconsistent. with that said, the orlando magics are a huge team. they have length and they play defense. 3 of the 5 starters can knock down 3s and have 20+ point games. they got height and they are long. younger, faster, and more atheltic. magic pose a great deal of trouble for every team in the NBA. if the Lake show meets up with the magics in the finals, it's a 7 game series, no question. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/arcticreaver - FaceBook http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sam-yang/a/832/325 - LinkedIn Profile

05-28-2009, 04:38 PM	#90 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3406	i don't think it's gonna signal the end of mike brown. i do agree with the point that basketball is a team sport, etc. etc. it is, however, a complete shame that the cavs can't take advantage of lebron's 42/7/7 numbers. 42/7/7. i mean, seriously. LBJ is a god walking amongst mortals. but look at the offense. in game 4, mo and delonte had a whole bunch of wide open looks that they normally bury. this series, however, both have gone stone cold from 3 pt range. these are guys that are ~40% for the season! mo came out on fire, too, but then his jumpshot went as wayward as ray allen's in the last series. but the point is, they're getting open looks, they're just not hitting their shots. so you can't fault the plan 100%, you fault the execution as well. orlando is the nightmare matchup for them, and for the rest of the league, as well. it's not just 3 guys on the perimeter, it's 4, + superman manning the paint. rashard and hedo have been clutch all year long (haha, hedo being clutch...how things have changed...), and they're just outhustling the slower cavs. game 4 was disgusting, though. superstar call to take it to OT? give me a break already, i hate the refs enough as it is.