Dennis rodman is a really good player yeah he won a couple of championship with the pistons but he was merely a role player on that team he was behind rick mahorn, thomas, dumars, the microwave and bill laimbeer. He didn't really showed his rebounding prowess till he left the pistons. He was not the most talented, biggest player but he had uncanny intelligent in the basketball court and a pretty good passer. He's rebounding skill is is one of the best he didn't have the big hops and the dude is only 6'8 - 6'9 and relied alot on positioning, bball smarts and his awesome timing on theball you can make a good argument with his HOF status prior to him joining the bulls and even then that is debatable he avg 13 rebounds per game which is very good but he avg 7ppg/58%ft his whole career. I'm not trying to take away his defensive awards but he only got it because of his insane 16-18 rpg which is very impressive.

With that said the rodman that joined the bulls was a 34 year old version that was a liability on offense avg 5.5/ 5.7/4.7 points per game and had a ft percentage of 50 percent, a fg percentage of 48/44/43 and bpg of .4/.3./.2. He avg about 15 rebounds per game during his stint with the bulls which made him invaluable and because of his passing and great bball smart that he meshed well under the triangle offense but he's role was like of consistent, smarter version of ben wallace that can't block that played with the early 2000 detroit piston. Like i said you can make a good argument with his HOF status but not a LIGITIMATE shoe in HOF compare with the likes of james worthy(top 50) and kareem(top 50) for magic, parrish(top 50)and mchale(top 50) for bird. This is the reason why everyone is on MJ's nuts is because before him the blue print for a dynasty is a dominant/HOF big man and multiple HOFamers on the team. For god sakes the starting center for the bulls was luc longley/bill wennington and bill cartwright.

I'm not downplaying the lakeshow and the celtics of the 80's cause they would definitely give any dynasty including the bulls a run for their money. I actually think that if the 80's lakeshow face the 90's bulls i think the lakers would beat them the matchups jas doesn't favor the bulls kareem would devaste the bulls inside and magic's height will compensate for pippens long arms and not to mention worthy,divac, byron scott I just don't think the bulls can outscore the lakeshow.

I have to agree with you that NBA has turned vanilla have you seen the superstars calls lately holy crap lebron shot 24 ft attempts lol he better score 40 points per game with that many free throws.

stars foul calls are head scratching these days. basketball needs to be fair. but i guess that only happens in the perfect world.

SO....predictions on the finals? I've got Lakers in 7.

Wow to be honest with you man i don't know they match up so good against each other. I got the magic in 6 because of match ups but theres a huge but and that is kobe, kobe aint no lebron he would make shots/ free throws in the end and is the only guy that could single handledly beat you in the fourth quarter and the best closer in the league i don't think the magic can keep doing this lose in the first three quarter and come back on the fourth on a consistent basis against the lakers plus i don't think phil is going to get out coached by van gundy. If the magic can play consistent ball throughout the whole game then i got them by six. If the lakeshow isn't so bipolar then i would pick them.

As long as the lakers loose I dont really care too much haha... But I mean... Magic will definitely win if they can keep a decent spread and nail those 3's ... the magic now are kinda like the warriors from a couple years back - live and die by the three... so if the 3's be clicking - no reason why the magic should loose...

Lol i see that your from sactown no wonder you hate the lakers.

i never liked the finals setup 2-3-2, to me, that's just a bad setup. but i got the lakers in 6.

honestly, i don't think the magic can hit the 3-pt shot as consistently as they have been. something's gotta give...law of averages, right? yes, hedo and rashard will always be the spacers, but i doubt rafer alston is going to tear up the lakers the way jameer did in the regular season. though this talk of jameer returning is definitely intriguing...

with all that said, you can't count out the magic. their rather unique build is matchup hell for the rest of the nba, and knowing the lakers ineptitude at guarding the 3-pt line and containing other point guards, it could be tough for the purple and gold. but depthwise, i think the lakers have the edge, hence they take it in 7.

Wow what can i say the lakers played like their lives depended on it, and what can i say about bryant just DAMMNNNNNN dude shot 50 percent and 90% his shots are well defended perimeter shots and he only had 8 ft attempt now that's impressive well earned 40 points.

that was a good game 2. lakers lead 2-0.

Yeah it was, this game shows how good the lakers is they played so so and the magic had their two stars playing and shooting pretty good but still pulled off a win. kobe is doing pretty good on mixing up his game, this time around he played as a facilitator other than the aggressive kobe but he did have 7 turnovers so he played pretty decent. But wow lol well theres goes my prediction out the window magic in 6 hahahahah. But i did put a big BUT on it like i said kobe is a closer and if you give him a good chance he will kill you it's what seperates him from everyone else on the league. That pass to gasol impressed me cause the old kobe would have put up a shot on that one.

the thing about that is i think kobe knows that he wasn't shooting that well and well like the game plan says if he's doubled he's going to make that extra pass unlike the game plan he was on years ago.

and hedo made a huge play at the end of regulation, a block on kobe, what a play. and it was clean as hell.

gasol was the hero in this game. basically took over in OT to give lakers the W. hats off to lewis for hitting 3s like there is no tomorrow. and even JJ hitting that clutch 3 to tie the game.

andrew has so many problems with dwight that it's not even funny. he needs to play like game 1 in one of the road games. need better defense on howard.

and how about them free throws? lakers i think missed only 4 while the magic missed 7 free throws. i guess when you look at it, you gotta make the free throws but 7 missed free throws is still pretty good. just not better than 4 missed free throws. but gasol and odom were clutch at the charity tonight.

lineup for the lakers should be:

kobe
ariza
bynum
gasol
odom

a big line up and enough to match up with lewis and hedo. kinda want ariza to guard lewis. i think ariza is a lot faster and with his length and quickness he can at least contest lewis beyond the arc.

can't wait till mbenga hits the floor. phil says he's going to have to use all of his 7 footers, i guess that includes mbenga.

Yeah man the magic showed their resiliency this game, they just kept jacking up them threes and they wer just going in. Did you see the press conference after the game lol kobe acts like he just lost the game he was like "why should i happy" the reporter said cause your 2-0 then kobe goes "the job ain't done yet." I used to be a kobe hater but I have to say he is impressing me right now just the way he carries himself on a win show's how much he changed.