Mayweather or Mosley??

ct63084 · 05-04-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo

Now it's Mayweather or Pacquiao?---IF it ever does happen.
And, yes, Ali is my choice for the best heavyweight ever.

You can make a good argument with Ali but i think most people will have him at 1 because of all the media press he had compare to louis, and all of the promotion he had "thrilla in manila","rumble in the jungle" those were some good promotions. But ask any hardcore boxing fan (me), and any experts most of them will have louis as number 1 heavyweight.

wishihadnav · 05-04-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ct63084

yeah you can make a good argument with Ali he was pretty good also. But i gave it to Joe louis because fought every one in his division never ducked anyone he made 25 defenses of his title, was a world champion for like 10 something years knocked out opponents like nobody's business, and on top of that he served in the army during ww2 and fought people for free to raise money for the army. He lost once during his prime it tells you what kind of competition he had back then and avenged it for the nations honor. I personally think he will have a better record if it wasn't for the war. The sad part about his story is that he fought and raise money for the govt during the war, then the end IRS told him the he owes the govt 500,000 i think he should be one of those rare occurance that the irs should have gave a free pass. Then louis continued fighting to pay his debt and eventually at end on the twilight of his career fought marciano and lost. Dude is the ultimate american hero IMHO.

Yeah i cant really argue against you for puttin Louis at 1...For me its Ali, Robinson, then Louis in that order...Louis had alot of notible fights like schmelling, con, braddock..but Ali had alot of dangerous fights like forman, frazier, liston, norton, spinks..etc...For me, and alot will disagree, Ali is the GOAT.

wishihadnav · 05-04-2010, 04:49 PM

..."ALI boom ba ya!!!"..hahahah!!!

wishihadnav · 05-04-2010, 04:56 PM

im glad there's another true fight fan on here!!..one fight that never came off that would of tested Floyd for sure woulda been with Kostya Tzyu...MAAAN he ducked kostya....this was before the Hatton fight...he played it safe n stayed feather until all the fightrs lost a step...wata F'n lil bish!!

I hope Manny knocks the ish outta him!!!

ct63084 · 05-04-2010, 08:33 PM

I'm an avid boxing fan, I got started when i watched barrera vs hamed. I use to hate hamed and when barrera schooled him oh man was the best day ever. Then from then on my interest grew and started watching documentary about sugar ray robinson, joe louis, duran etc. For a while it was only barrera and morales that was carrying the lower weight division, if anyone want to see one of the best fight ever watch barrera vs morales. Many people would say gatti vs ward which was awesome but it was a pretty sloppy fight, but the barrera vs morales was good technical back to back boxing. Yeah kostya was the man @ 140 dominated that division for a while lol remember this.

wishihadnav · 05-04-2010, 09:11 PM

I remembr watching that fight live n I couldn't stop laughing for an hour!..hahaha..funny thing is I ran into zab n tyson at dre's in vegas a couple years back n all could think about was that ko!!..lmfao..

wishihadnav · 05-04-2010, 09:15 PM

Yeah prince naseem was a fkn clown..I was glad to see barerra hand it to him..I've been watching fights pretty avidly since the 80's...hagler..hearns..duran..sugaray n the always entertaining tyson..haha..I miss those days..

ct63084 · 05-04-2010, 09:35 PM

Unfortunately I'm too young to see those fights live. I could watch it on youtube or something but it just doesn't capture the same excitement when the fight is live. I can't imagine how crazy it was watching the hagler vs hearns first round, best round in boxing.

wishihadnav · 05-04-2010, 09:44 PM

I missed that fight live...hitmans jerrycurl juice drippin n flyin evrywhere!!..hahah..bettr fightrs back then imo...now that I think about it I wonder what would happen if floyd squared up with sweet pea in his prime?..that would one technical bout..ahaha

ct63084 · 05-04-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav

I missed that fight live...hitmans jerrycurl juice drippin n flyin evrywhere!!..hahah..bettr fightrs back then imo...now that I think about it I wonder what would happen if floyd squared up with sweet pea in his prime?..that would one technical bout..ahaha

Lol technical is an understatement. I tell you this though pernell I think is the best defensive fighter i've seen fight, that's including floyd and he would bang if needed. Dude was the man he also fought some legends and got robbed ie chavez fight. I personally think he would whoop on pacman and floyd.

wishihadnav · 05-04-2010, 10:30 PM

Yeah I saw that fight..sweepea won that...but that happens all the time n that's why I don't place big bets on fights...the worst was hollyfield/lewis...that chyte pissed me off so bad I stopped watching for a while..

wishihadnav · 05-04-2010, 10:43 PM

Teddy talks about this all the time and he's right...we need to dump the alphabet soup n get 1 regulated sanctioning body...I like when fightrs unify the belts but its too damn crooked..that's why we lost a lot of fans to mma.

ct63084 · 05-04-2010, 11:00 PM

Don't even get me started on that we should only have one belt per weight division. The main reason we lost people to mma is you can't watch boxing anymore, you have to pay to watch a decent fight ie the super six tournament I havent been watching that because it's on showtime. In MMA flip the channel to spike and they give you some decent main events.

wishihadnav · 05-04-2010, 11:27 PM

Haha yeah u do get to see a lot of mma for free...we need manny vs floyd!..I actually met manny at a party he threw in downtown lastyear...n about 4/5 yrs ago I met floyd in a club in hollywood trying to pick up on my friend sonia..that fool even gave her his number..haha

ct63084 · 05-04-2010, 11:43 PM

It might seem like i hate floyd I really dont' i use to be a huge fan especially when he fought a close fight against castillo and fought a rematch and dominated him then i don't really know what happened after that. I really don't get him he could easily beat almost everyone in the welterweight division, but he always ducks any challenges that could threaten his record after the castillo fight. For god sakes he picked baldomir over margorito.

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05-04-2010, 04:49 PM	#63 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	..."ALI boom ba ya!!!"..hahahah!!!

05-04-2010, 04:56 PM	#64 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	im glad there's another true fight fan on here!!..one fight that never came off that would of tested Floyd for sure woulda been with Kostya Tzyu...MAAAN he ducked kostya....this was before the Hatton fight...he played it safe n stayed feather until all the fightrs lost a step...wata F'n lil bish!! I hope Manny knocks the ish outta him!!!

05-04-2010, 08:33 PM	#65 (permalink)
ct63084 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: FAIRFIELD CA Posts: 219 Drives: 2004 MAZDA3 Rep Power: 16	I'm an avid boxing fan, I got started when i watched barrera vs hamed. I use to hate hamed and when barrera schooled him oh man was the best day ever. Then from then on my interest grew and started watching documentary about sugar ray robinson, joe louis, duran etc. For a while it was only barrera and morales that was carrying the lower weight division, if anyone want to see one of the best fight ever watch barrera vs morales. Many people would say gatti vs ward which was awesome but it was a pretty sloppy fight, but the barrera vs morales was good technical back to back boxing. Yeah kostya was the man @ 140 dominated that division for a while lol remember this.

05-04-2010, 09:11 PM	#66 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	I remembr watching that fight live n I couldn't stop laughing for an hour!..hahaha..funny thing is I ran into zab n tyson at dre's in vegas a couple years back n all could think about was that ko!!..lmfao..

05-04-2010, 09:15 PM	#67 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	Yeah prince naseem was a fkn clown..I was glad to see barerra hand it to him..I've been watching fights pretty avidly since the 80's...hagler..hearns..duran..sugaray n the always entertaining tyson..haha..I miss those days..

05-04-2010, 09:35 PM	#68 (permalink)
ct63084 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: FAIRFIELD CA Posts: 219 Drives: 2004 MAZDA3 Rep Power: 16	Unfortunately I'm too young to see those fights live. I could watch it on youtube or something but it just doesn't capture the same excitement when the fight is live. I can't imagine how crazy it was watching the hagler vs hearns first round, best round in boxing.

05-04-2010, 09:44 PM	#69 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	I missed that fight live...hitmans jerrycurl juice drippin n flyin evrywhere!!..hahah..bettr fightrs back then imo...now that I think about it I wonder what would happen if floyd squared up with sweet pea in his prime?..that would one technical bout..ahaha

05-04-2010, 10:30 PM	#71 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	Yeah I saw that fight..sweepea won that...but that happens all the time n that's why I don't place big bets on fights...the worst was hollyfield/lewis...that chyte pissed me off so bad I stopped watching for a while..

05-04-2010, 10:43 PM	#72 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	Teddy talks about this all the time and he's right...we need to dump the alphabet soup n get 1 regulated sanctioning body...I like when fightrs unify the belts but its too damn crooked..that's why we lost a lot of fans to mma.

05-04-2010, 11:00 PM	#73 (permalink)
ct63084 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: FAIRFIELD CA Posts: 219 Drives: 2004 MAZDA3 Rep Power: 16	Don't even get me started on that we should only have one belt per weight division. The main reason we lost people to mma is you can't watch boxing anymore, you have to pay to watch a decent fight ie the super six tournament I havent been watching that because it's on showtime. In MMA flip the channel to spike and they give you some decent main events.

05-04-2010, 11:27 PM	#74 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	Haha yeah u do get to see a lot of mma for free...we need manny vs floyd!..I actually met manny at a party he threw in downtown lastyear...n about 4/5 yrs ago I met floyd in a club in hollywood trying to pick up on my friend sonia..that fool even gave her his number..haha

05-04-2010, 11:43 PM	#75 (permalink)
ct63084 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: FAIRFIELD CA Posts: 219 Drives: 2004 MAZDA3 Rep Power: 16	It might seem like i hate floyd I really dont' i use to be a huge fan especially when he fought a close fight against castillo and fought a rematch and dominated him then i don't really know what happened after that. I really don't get him he could easily beat almost everyone in the welterweight division, but he always ducks any challenges that could threaten his record after the castillo fight. For god sakes he picked baldomir over margorito.