Mayweather or Mosley??

wishihadnav

^haha hopefully...man i hope Floyd gets knocked out tho..his head has gotten too damn big...im not hatin but that fool changed his name from "Pretty Boy" to "MONEY"...lmfao!!!..if n when this comes off it'll be the biggest fight of the decade...

wishihadnav

Oh im gonna pick a winner now and say its Manny...Floyd did look good on sat but look who he's fought since he "came outa retirement"...De la Hoya (washed up)...Ricky Hatton (super washed up)...Marquez (washed up)...n Shayne (NOT washed up but 38)...Floyd's camp does pick fights well..hahaha!

HT Rambler

don't forget about the other 42 others Don't slight those helpless soles. Oh yea remmember the Delahoya bout haters were even saying he won at the time.
Now list the pac's bouts and pick out a good top 5. Oh yes don't count the ones he lost??

ct63084

Undefeated dont' really mean anything. If you look all throught out boxing history the best ones lost a couple of fights.

Ali- 5 losses-56 wins
duran- 16 losses- 103 wins
Joe louis- 3losses- 63 wins

If undefeated record is what floats your boat then Chris John should be the best boxer in the world.

Pacman top opponent
Ledwaba- Best bantamweight at the time
Barrera- HOF
JMM-HOF
Morales-HOF(fought this three legends back to back to back and tune up fights in the middle inlcuding trilogy with moralez)
David Diaz- decent
ODLH- Made this dude quit on the stool
hatton- Should have call the cops cause this was a murder scene
Cotto- demolished

PBF
Diego Coralles- HOF
Joe Luis castillo-HOF best fighter and fight floyd ever fought
Then he falls off from there
Gatti-
Judah-wack
Baldomir-LOl
ODLH-HOF(i had PBF winning this one, but a close one though)
Hatton- Best fight he fought since jose luis
JMM-HOF dominated(made this dude climb up from 135 to 147, then floyd comes in overweight)
Mosley- HOF dominated

wishihadnav

Man I can go on n on about floyd but basically he's only had one real fight n that was with castillo...evryone else was either washed up or overmatched...where was he when all the welters were actually in their prime??..he waits till they washed up...hahah..he's a joke..end of rant/

HT Rambler

Undefeated means absolutely zero , an undefeated champion means you dodged all the good fighters , waited untill they died or could not box then you jump in and became the champ. Money can't box but he seems to be pretty smart
Why didn't pac be smart and do all the same things instead of loosing fights ??? All those bumbs you got up there never even heard of them (there is a reason for that).
Reminds me of my friend die heart fan for his team always calling out these names of players that i never heard of (but they are superstars) yea right !!

ct63084

I'm sorry then, from that post i could tell that you are just a mayweather fan not a boxing fan. You never heard of Joe louis best boxer ever, you never heard of barrera, morales and JMM. All I gotta say is wow, those three is what kept boxing up. Lol damn bandwagoner, this dude comes here arguing mayweather is the best and never heard of barrera, morales and joe louis.

wishihadnav

i'd probably take Ali as the greatest over Louis because of his resume...Ali didnt' fight evry month like Joe but he had the tougher fights...

ct63084

yeah you can make a good argument with Ali he was pretty good also. But i gave it to Joe louis because fought every one in his division never ducked anyone he made 25 defenses of his title, was a world champion for like 10 something years knocked out opponents like nobody's business, and on top of that he served in the army during ww2 and fought people for free to raise money for the army. He lost once during his prime it tells you what kind of competition he had back then and avenged it for the nations honor. I personally think he will have a better record if it wasn't for the war. The sad part about his story is that he fought and raise money for the govt during the war, then the end IRS told him the he owes the govt 500,000 i think he should be one of those rare occurance that the irs should have gave a free pass. Then louis continued fighting to pay his debt and eventually at end on the twilight of his career fought marciano and lost. Dude is the ultimate american hero IMHO.

wishihadnav

Yeah i cant really argue against you for puttin Louis at 1...For me its Ali, Robinson, then Louis in that order...Louis had alot of notible fights like schmelling, con, braddock..but Ali had alot of dangerous fights like forman, frazier, liston, norton, spinks..etc...For me, and alot will disagree, Ali is the GOAT.

j.arnaldo

Now it's Mayweather or Pacquiao?---IF it ever does happen.
And, yes, Ali is my choice for the best heavyweight ever.

ct63084

You can make a good argument with Ali but i think most people will have him at 1 because of all the media press he had compare to louis, and all of the promotion he had "thrilla in manila","rumble in the jungle" those were some good promotions. But ask any hardcore boxing fan (me), and any experts most of them will have louis as number 1 heavyweight.

wishihadnav

..."ALI boom ba ya!!!"..hahahah!!!

wishihadnav

im glad there's another true fight fan on here!!..one fight that never came off that would of tested Floyd for sure woulda been with Kostya Tzyu...MAAAN he ducked kostya....this was before the Hatton fight...he played it safe n stayed feather until all the fightrs lost a step...wata F'n lil bish!!

I hope Manny knocks the ish outta him!!!

ct63084

I'm an avid boxing fan, I got started when i watched barrera vs hamed. I use to hate hamed and when barrera schooled him oh man was the best day ever. Then from then on my interest grew and started watching documentary about sugar ray robinson, joe louis, duran etc. For a while it was only barrera and morales that was carrying the lower weight division, if anyone want to see one of the best fight ever watch barrera vs morales. Many people would say gatti vs ward which was awesome but it was a pretty sloppy fight, but the barrera vs morales was good technical back to back boxing. Yeah kostya was the man @ 140 dominated that division for a while lol remember this.