Mayweather or Mosley??

wishihadnav · 05-03-2010, 03:49 PM

Oh im gonna pick a winner now and say its Manny...Floyd did look good on sat but look who he's fought since he "came outa retirement"...De la Hoya (washed up)...Ricky Hatton (super washed up)...Marquez (washed up)...n Shayne (NOT washed up but 38)...Floyd's camp does pick fights well..hahaha!

sylenze · 05-03-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Manny vs Floyd this November count on it! Follow the money!

espn is reporting that pac is supposedly softening stance on blood testing... wAAAAAAAAAAAAAt! i hope nobody votes for him... but am still scared... gonna be epic fight...

vash_241987 · 05-03-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sylenze

espn is reporting that pac is supposedly softening stance on blood testing... wAAAAAAAAAAAAAt! i hope nobody votes for him... but am still scared... gonna be epic fight...

lol, yeah well my dad told me that he hopes pac doesn't give up on boxing for the philippine politics....which is not that all great...

HT Rambler · 05-03-2010, 09:34 PM

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Cause he does not have to!!!! Why succumb to your oppents wants? As the vid stated Jr. was afraid of losing, why didn't he ask blood test from marquez and other fighter? If he is so good, why worry about a filipino that has no skill (as his father stated) and force him to do a test? Its not required by NV to take a blood test. Its a ******* mind game for mayweather he likes to get under peoples, so why do it if its just for own pleasure? They take test after the fight so if pac was PED then he could be disqualified. All these mayweather fans are saying that pac is hiding something just cause Sr. brought it up, damn fool can't make up his mind, says the pac sucks, yet now the clearly states that he is using PED. If Sr. was SOOO ******* certain that us filipinos had a magical drug then produce it (which they probably have used since they are so knowledgeable of the drug)

Quote from The Ring magazine April 2010:

Jr. "because we know the philippines got the BEST enhancement drugs."

So my question to you is what is this PED that we make? Where it is? Can you find a sample? Maybe its just really good coffee that the us filipnos make? Maybe its the balut that we have?

Its filipino pride dude, why be forced to do something that you don't have to do? Maybe the pride has to do with being under different dictators and countries oppressing the people?

It def. would have been easier if pac just did the test, but it pac not me

cliff notes: Pac did not do blood test cause he doesn't have to. Jr./Sr. should provide a sample of this "PED" that filipinos make.

P.S. sorry dude, but you got my blood boiling, lol

Of course he does not have to , but the question is does he want to.

His father said this, Bert Sugar said that , he pissed me off , he pissed aunt Ester off ..yada yada yada. Now if you really want to fight bring it on . Whats the big deal about taking the test after and not before ??? This is how it works pac wins then take the test it comes up positive guess what all the naysayers say ???? Yep it was riigged , in the meantime pac is champion it's all over the news etc...
He's not worried about a fillipino with no skills. The fillipino certainly is not worried about the no skills all mouth , his daddy said this , aunt ester said that Mayweather. Besides who's scared of a scary fighter ?? Not the pacster !!

HT Rambler · 05-03-2010, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav

Oh im gonna pick a winner now and say its Manny...Floyd did look good on sat but look who he's fought since he "came outa retirement"...De la Hoya (washed up)...Ricky Hatton (super washed up)...Marquez (washed up)...n Shayne (NOT washed up but 38)...Floyd's camp does pick fights well..hahaha!

don't forget about the other 42 others

Don't slight those helpless soles. Oh yea remmember the Delahoya bout haters were even saying he won at the time.
Now list the pac's bouts and pick out a good top 5. Oh yes don't count the ones he lost??

ct63084 · 05-03-2010, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HT Rambler

don't forget about the other 42 others

Don't slight those helpless soles. Oh yea remmember the Delahoya bout haters were even saying he won at the time.
Now list the pac's bouts and pick out a good top 5. Oh yes don't count the ones he lost??

Undefeated dont' really mean anything. If you look all throught out boxing history the best ones lost a couple of fights.

Ali- 5 losses-56 wins
duran- 16 losses- 103 wins
Joe louis- 3losses- 63 wins

If undefeated record is what floats your boat then Chris John should be the best boxer in the world.

Pacman top opponent
Ledwaba- Best bantamweight at the time
Barrera- HOF
JMM-HOF
Morales-HOF(fought this three legends back to back to back and tune up fights in the middle inlcuding trilogy with moralez)
David Diaz- decent
ODLH- Made this dude quit on the stool
hatton- Should have call the cops cause this was a murder scene
Cotto- demolished

PBF
Diego Coralles- HOF
Joe Luis castillo-HOF best fighter and fight floyd ever fought
Then he falls off from there
Gatti-
Judah-wack
Baldomir-LOl
ODLH-HOF(i had PBF winning this one, but a close one though)
Hatton- Best fight he fought since jose luis
JMM-HOF dominated(made this dude climb up from 135 to 147, then floyd comes in overweight)
Mosley- HOF dominated

wishihadnav · 05-04-2010, 02:14 AM

Man I can go on n on about floyd but basically he's only had one real fight n that was with castillo...evryone else was either washed up or overmatched...where was he when all the welters were actually in their prime??..he waits till they washed up...hahah..he's a joke..end of rant/

HT Rambler · 05-04-2010, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ct63084

Undefeated dont' really mean anything. If you look all throught out boxing history the best ones lost a couple of fights.

Ali- 5 losses-56 wins
duran- 16 losses- 103 wins
Joe louis- 3losses- 63 wins

If undefeated record is what floats your boat then Chris John should be the best boxer in the world.

Pacman top opponent
Ledwaba- Best bantamweight at the time
Barrera- HOF
JMM-HOF
Morales-HOF(fought this three legends back to back to back and tune up fights in the middle inlcuding trilogy with moralez)
David Diaz- decent
ODLH- Made this dude quit on the stool
hatton- Should have call the cops cause this was a murder scene
Cotto- demolished

PBF
Diego Coralles- HOF
Joe Luis castillo-HOF best fighter and fight floyd ever fought
Then he falls off from there
Gatti-
Judah-wack
Baldomir-LOl
ODLH-HOF(i had PBF winning this one, but a close one though)
Hatton- Best fight he fought since jose luis
JMM-HOF dominated(made this dude climb up from 135 to 147, then floyd comes in overweight)
Mosley- HOF dominated

Undefeated means absolutely zero , an undefeated champion means you dodged all the good fighters , waited untill they died or could not box then you jump in and became the champ. Money can't box but he seems to be pretty smart

Why didn't pac be smart and do all the same things instead of loosing fights ??? All those bumbs you got up there never even heard of them (there is a reason for that).

Reminds me of my friend die heart fan for his team always calling out these names of players that i never heard of (but they are superstars) yea right !!

ct63084 · 05-04-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by HT Rambler

Undefeated means absolutely zero , an undefeated champion means you dodged all the good fighters , waited untill they died or could not box then you jump in and became the champ. Money can't box but he seems to be pretty smart

Why didn't pac be smart and do all the same things instead of loosing fights ??? All those bumbs you got up there never even heard of them (there is a reason for that).

Reminds me of my friend die heart fan for his team always calling out these names of players that i never heard of (but they are superstars) yea right !!

I'm sorry then, from that post i could tell that you are just a mayweather fan not a boxing fan. You never heard of Joe louis best boxer ever, you never heard of barrera, morales and JMM. All I gotta say is wow, those three is what kept boxing up. Lol damn bandwagoner, this dude comes here arguing mayweather is the best and never heard of barrera, morales and joe louis.

wishihadnav · 05-04-2010, 10:03 AM

There's no doubt that Manny has taken the tougher fights..its not even close...btw if u don't know who Joe Louis is then u have no business posting in this thread..hahah...probly the greatest heavy weight of all time.

wishihadnav · 05-04-2010, 10:27 AM

Man an undefeated fighter means nothing in boxing..honestly look at chavez jr..he undefeated...he F'n sucks!!...it all about who u fought.

ct63084 · 05-04-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav

There's no doubt that Manny has taken the tougher fights..its not even close...btw if u don't know who Joe Louis is then u have no business posting in this thread..hahah...probly the greatest heavy weight of all time.

I consider joe louis to be the best boxer ever no one even comes close, probably sugar ray robinson or duran. Dude was fighting every month. Had his first loss to schmeling and dude had a rematch and whoop schmelling in 2 minutes. If you guys don't know your history schmelling was a german during a nazi era, after he beat louis the nazis claimed that his win solidify their aryan race as the best, then at the rematch nazi's kept on saying no way in hell joe louis is going to win, then at the rematch joe louis whoop this dudes *** in 2 minutes and schmelling was only able to get off like 5 punches or so that right there is legendary.

Edit: I also forgot to mention sugar ray robinson 173 wins- 19 losses. I thought it was a crime that i forgot to mention him.

wishihadnav · 05-04-2010, 02:41 PM

i'd probably take Ali as the greatest over Louis because of his resume...Ali didnt' fight evry month like Joe but he had the tougher fights...

j.arnaldo · 05-04-2010, 03:19 PM

Now it's Mayweather or Pacquiao?---IF it ever does happen.
And, yes, Ali is my choice for the best heavyweight ever.

ct63084 · 05-04-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav

i'd probably take Ali as the greatest over Louis because of his resume...Ali didnt' fight evry month like Joe but he had the tougher fights...

yeah you can make a good argument with Ali he was pretty good also. But i gave it to Joe louis because fought every one in his division never ducked anyone he made 25 defenses of his title, was a world champion for like 10 something years knocked out opponents like nobody's business, and on top of that he served in the army during ww2 and fought people for free to raise money for the army. He lost once during his prime it tells you what kind of competition he had back then and avenged it for the nations honor. I personally think he will have a better record if it wasn't for the war. The sad part about his story is that he fought and raise money for the govt during the war, then the end IRS told him the he owes the govt 500,000 i think he should be one of those rare occurance that the irs should have gave a free pass. Then louis continued fighting to pay his debt and eventually at end on the twilight of his career fought marciano and lost. Dude is the ultimate american hero IMHO.

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wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	Oh im gonna pick a winner now and say its Manny...Floyd did look good on sat but look who he's fought since he "came outa retirement"...De la Hoya (washed up)...Ricky Hatton (super washed up)...Marquez (washed up)...n Shayne (NOT washed up but 38)...Floyd's camp does pick fights well..hahaha! Last edited by wishihadnav; 05-03-2010 at 04:05 PM.

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