2023 Formula 1 Thread
 

What better way to start the new year with
Andretti / Cadillac pushing for a F1 entry https://the-race.com/formula-1/andre...-f1-entry-bid/

amazing article on this Young man to show his determination
Juan Manuel Correa -- wish him the best in 2023


https://the-race.com/junior/20-opera...rea-interview/

Good BBC read on the Andretti topic.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/64210632

Not sure why Ben Sulayem has become so vocal - FIA is intruding more and more into the operations of F1.

New season. New manufacturers. New drama.

I’ll be ready.

in case you were wondering about the next F! race
https://whenisf1on.com/

Interesting


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Yea, I keeping track on it on Racer.com (there are others) and it is total turning into a total mess. As if the F1 teams do not want another team. Because of diluting there prize money.

With various VAG interests in joining F1, along with others (the Andretti move isn't exactly out of the blue), they should have pressured F1 to up the dilution penalty from 200M back at the signing of the last concord agreement in 2021.
Suddenly claiming that this figure isn't enough, and wanting 500 or 600 million out of the blue isn't really believable.

Not sure how committed Cadillac might be, or how deep the Andretti pockets are - do they realize the cost of racing in F1 is a lot different from the spec series they spend most of their life running?

With their only allies being Alpine (who is proposing to sell them engines) and McLaren (Zak has apparently been a partner in some Andretti ventures), they're facing an uphill battle. They'll need to get the support of at least one of Ferrari and Mercedes in order to pull this off. And I cannot think what the benefit to either team would be. It's not going to cost them, either, but they appear to be dead set against the additional team for the moment.

Summary of 2023 rule changes.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...Dnw8fD0rp.html

Might want to fact check this one, but ... ;-) :-)

Here is the MoneyGram Haas F1 Team for 2023.

don't know whether I like or not, mixed feelings.
"Palm Angels" sponsorship hmmm, look it up some Italian based clothing line
https://www.palmangels.com/en-us/

Opening application for new teams

https://the-race.com/formula-1/fia-s...early-as-2025/

Another interesting item
Red Bull and Ford will be on the engine
https://the-race.com/formula-1/ford-...l-engine-deal/

FIA formally announces bid process for new teams to join F1

https://www.fia.com/news/fia-officia...ormula-1-teams

The Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile today announces the official launch of an application process to identify prospective teams seeking to participate at a competitive level in the FIA Formula One World Championship.

The FIA welcomes interest from entities with a serious intent to enter the FIA Formula One World Championship. The high level of interest from a number of potential candidates is further proof of the popularity and growth of the Championship.

All applicants will undergo thorough due diligence. The assessment of each application will cover in particular the technical capabilities and resources of the applicant team, the ability of the team to raise and maintain sufficient funding to allow participation in the Championship at a competitive level and the team’s experience and human resources.

For the first time ever, any candidate would be required to address how it would manage the sustainability challenge and how it plans to achieve a net-zero CO2 impact by 2030. Any prospective F1 team would also need to illustrate how they intend to achieve a positive societal impact through its participation in the sport. This would help meet the mutual aims of the FIA and Formula One Management.

The overall long-term interests of the Championship, involving all stakeholders, will determine which candidates are selected together with the applicable regulations and governance arrangements.

The terms of the formal application process (together with the complete selection criteria, applicable deadlines, legal requirements and other conditions) will be communicated to candidates that submit a preliminary expression of interest to the FIA.

FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem, said: “The growth and appeal of the FIA Formula One World Championship is at unprecedented levels. The FIA believes the conditions are right for interested parties, which meet the selection criteria, to express a formal interest in entering the Championship.

“For the first time ever, as part of the selection conditions, we are requesting that candidates set out how they would meet the FIA’s sustainability benchmarks and how they would make a positive societal impact through sport.

“The process is a logical extension of the positive acceptance of the FIA’s 2026 F1 Power Unit Regulations from engine manufacturers which has attracted Audi to Formula 1 and created interest among other potential entrants.”

Ford and Red Bull is offical

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...C79l1YQ9b.html

'22 USGP throwback

what's missing?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6bc2f5d4_b.jpgTyler PER RB 370zfrm2 by Raf, on Flickr

Advertising space! :icon17:

MBS appears set to step down as head of FIA.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/ben-s...1-involvement/

Here it McLaren 2023 Car.

Here is the Aston Martin 2023 car.

SF 23
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/...ri-sf-23-1.jpg

Mercedes Car for the 2023.

Alpine car for 2023.

The 2023 Season Cars. :tup:

Sweet! When does the real drama start?? lol

watching the F1 test session, not that these times mean anything

1 - redbull
2 - ferrari
3 - williams
4 - alfa
5 - MB
6 - Hans
8 - Aston Martin
9 - Alpine
10 - Mclearn

as of 7:45am est

as of 8:50am EST

1. Verstappen (Red Bull) 1m32.959s, C3, 104 laps
2. Sainz (Ferrari) 1m33.253s, C3, 72 laps
3. Albon (Williams) 1m33.671s, C5, 74 laps
4. Zhou (Alfa Romeo) 1m33.723s, C3, 67 laps
5. Hamilton (Mercedes) 1m33.901s, C3, 19 laps
6. Russell (Mercedes) 1m34.174s, C3, 69 laps
7. Leclerc (Ferrari) 1m34.352s, 23 laps
8. Hulkenberg (Haas) 1m34.424s, C3, 51 laps
9. Drugovich (Aston Martin) 1m34.564s, C3, 40 laps
10. Tsunoda (AlphaTauri) 1m34.671s, 46 laps
11. Alonso (Aston Martin) 1m24.780s, C3, 7 laps
12. Gasly (Alpine) 1m34.822s, C3, 60 laps
13. Piastri (McLaren) 1m34.888s, C3, 52 laps
14. Bottas (Alfa Romeo) 1m35.206s, C3, 19 laps
15. Magnussen (Haas) 1m36.225s, C3, 14 laps
16. Sargeant (Williams) 1m36.556s, C3, 17 laps
17. Norris (McLaren) 1m36.872s, C3, 5 laps
18. De Vries (AlphaTauri) 1m37.532s, C3, 18 laps
19. Ocon (Alpine) 1m38.633s, C1, 15 laps

Verstappen: "What do you mean, I have a competitive personality?" LOL

Agreed, these may not be indicative. Still, neat to see Hulkenberg setting impressive times. The Alfa Romeos too. Would be neat if there were some real progress in the midfield this year!

end of day testing results

Day one times

1. Verstappen (Red Bull) 1m32.837s, C3, 157 laps
2. Alonso (Aston Martin) 1m32.866s, C3, 60 laps
3. Sainz (Ferrari) 1m33.253s, C3, 72 laps
4. Leclerc (Ferrari) 1m33.267s, C3, 63 laps
5. Norris (McLaren) 1m33.462s, C3, 40 laps
6. Hamilton (Mercedes) 1m33.508s, C3, 83 laps
7. Albon (Williams) 1m33.671s, C5, 74 laps
8. Zhou (Alfa Romeo) 1m33.723s, C3, 67 laps
9. Russell (Mercedes) 1m34.174s, C3, 69 laps
10. Sargeant (Williams) 1m34.324s, C3, 75 laps
11. Hulkenberg (Haas) 1m34.424s, C3, 51 laps
12. Bottas (Alfa Romeo) 1m34.558s, C3, 71 laps
13. De Vries (AlphaTauri) 1m34.559s, C3, 85 laps
14. Drugovich (Aston Martin) 1m34.564s, C3, 40 laps
15. Tsunoda (AlphaTauri) 1m34.671s, 46 laps
16. Gasly (Alpine) 1m34.822s, C3, 60 laps
17. Ocon (Alpine) 1m34.871s, C3, 53 laps
18. Piastri (McLaren) 1m34.888s, C3, 52 laps
19. Magnussen (Haas) 1m35.087s, C3, 57 laps

Do we know the corresponding tire compounds and fuel loads of these lap times? Sorry I follow F1 very loosely. Just wondering if Ferrari and Mercedes are closing the gap with RB.

Second Day morning timings
Day two times

1. Sainz (Ferrari) 1m32.486s, C3, 70 laps
2. Sargeant (Williams) 1m32.549s, C5, 74 laps
3. Alonso (Aston Martin) 1m32.969s, C3, 64 laps
4. Zhou (Alfa Romeo) 1m33.170s, test, 45 laps
5. Magnussen (Haas) 1m33.442s, C2, 67 laps
6. Ocon (Alpine) 1m33.490s, C3, 49 laps
7. Perez (Red Bull) 1m33.751s, test, 76 laps
8. Hamilton (Mercedes) 1m33.954s, C3, 72 laps
9. Norris (McLaren) 1m35.522s, C2, 65 laps
10. Tsunoda (AlphaTauri) 1m37.687s, C3, 85 laps

nope its all over the place, fuel loads, tire choices, setups everything..
if you look at the morning time, William's was 2nd, but in watching the testing, they ran a tire not to be used there next weekend.

tire choices this year
c0, c1, c2, c3, c4, C5 - believe these are all dry C0 is the hardness to c5 softness
c6 wet..

I think they are running C0, C1, C2 for next weekend...

Note: Fastest times this morning have tire they ran on.

post any questions here, lots of people will help out

1. Zhou (Alfa Romeo) 1m31.610s, C5, 133 laps
2. Verstappen (Red Bull) 1m31.650s, C3, 47 laps
3. Alonso (Aston Martin) 1m32.205, C3, 130 laps
4. De Vries (AlphaTauri) 1m32.222s, C4, 74 laps
5. Hulkenberg (Haas) 1m32.466s, C5, 68 laps
6. Sainz (Ferrari) 1m32.486, C3, 70 laps
7. Sargeant (Williams) 1m32.549s, C5, 154 laps
8. Leclerc (Ferrari) 1m32.725s, C3, 68 laps
9. Piastri (McLaren) 1m33.175s, C3, 74 laps
10. Gasly (Alpine) 1m33.436s, C3, 59 laps
11. Magnussen (Haas) 1m33.442s, C2, 67 laps
12. Ocon (Alpine) 1m33.490s, C3, 49 laps
13. Russell (Mercedes) 1m33.738s, C3, 26 laps
14. Perez (Red Bull) 1m33.751s, test, 76 laps
15. Hamilton (Mercedes) 1m33.954s, C3, 72 laps
16. Norris (McLaren) 1m35.522s, C2, 65 laps
17. Tsunoda (AlphaTauri) 1m37.687s, C3, 85 laps

the times set in bold, these drivers were on the softest tire avaliable
and from what I understand, they will not be used next weekend

Of course too early, and it's just testing, but it would be cool if this is a sign of a Godlonso season.

yes, it would be :iagree:

Day three test times

1. Leclerc (Ferrari) 1m31.024s, C4, 67 laps
2. Russell (Mercedes) 1m31.442s, C5, 83 laps
3. Drugovich (Aston Martin) 1m32.075s, C5, 77 laps
4. Perez (Red Bull) 1m32.459s, C3, 69 laps
5. Gasly (Alpine) 1m32.762s, C3, 56 laps
6. Albon (Williams) 1m32.793s, C4, 53 laps
7. Hulkenberg (Haas) 1m33.329s, C3, 77 laps
8. Piastri (McLaren) 1m33.655s, C3, 44 laps
9. Bottas (Alfa Romeo) 1m36.854s, C3, 72 laps
10. De Vries (AlphaTauri) 1m38.244s, C3, 87 laps

Listening to the announcers, C4 and C5 tires being run, to get an some feedback for later in the year.

Alfa Romeo - power drivetrain issues
McLaren - are in trouble, that is all the talk is about, and something not right on how the front brakes/air devices, seems they keep shaking.
Aston Martin - may have gotten it right
Haas - hear nothing about them, and lap counts are good. no news -good news

Nice analysis from Blake. Follow this guy.... BrrrakeF1 in youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1TXKHVt2Dw

Aston might be the flavor of the season for me while I look out for a Ferrari tragedy to unfold again.

Stroll did what he did still coming back from his wrist injury.

Alonso gonna Alonso.