2023 Formula 1 Thread

[danegrey]

Q3 results:

1 Verstappen
2 Sainz
3 Norris
4 Gasly
5 Hamilton
6 Stroll
7 Ocon
8 Hulkenberg
9 Alonso
10 Piastri

[danegrey]

todays spain results
Finishing Position | Driver | Team
------- | -------- | --------
1 | Verstappen | Red Bull Racing
2 | Hamilton | Mercedes
3 | Russell | Mercedes
4 | Perez | Red Bull Racing
5 | Sainz | Ferrari
6 | Stroll | Aston Martin
7 | Alonso | Aston Martin
8 | Ocon | Alpine
9 | Zhou | Alfa Romeo
10 | Gasly | Alpine
11 | Leclerc | Ferrari
12 | Tsunoda | AlphaTauri
13 | Piastri | McLaren
14 | De Vries | AlphaTauri
15 | Hulkenberg | Haas F1 Team
16 | Albon | Williams
17 | Norris | McLaren
18 | Magnussen | Haas F1 Team
19 | Bottas | Alfa Romeo
20 | Sargeant | Williams

odd race with a whole lot different of tire strategy
Aston was off
MB was on
Ferrari is Ferrari
Haas has the same race strategist as Ferrari did not make sense
Max got bored and was getting track limit warnings, even the black and white flag
Russell comment about rain, was actually his own sweat on the inside his visor

Take away Max and it was an interesting race...

[Ventruck]

I completely gave up on his season to the point I didn't realize LeClerc climbed into P4.

But Godlonso still hanging. Hoping Stroll finds form so AM can gnab 2nd for the season.

[danegrey]

It was an interesting race yesterday
MAX - unless an act of god will be WC
Alonso or Hamilton might place 2nd.
Stroll - no idea, he did well for a bit and now has lost it
HAAS - car likes to eat tires, if they can resolve that might have a change
Albon - what a drive for Williams...
Perez - please forget about the WC and get back to what you are, your not a WC
The McLaren penalty for stacking that Norris got, please FIA/F1 spend some money on full time officials
Why no Black/Orange flag for Ocon wing just shaking, if it was a HAAS, there would have been one...

Have a good one

[ZontheRocks]

Ferrari is Ferrari

The randomness of the ineptitude is what's wild to me. Something different every race weekend and its got to the point now, even if its something 'little' its in everybody's head as the above.

[ZCanadian]

Originally Posted by ZontheRocks

The randomness of the ineptitude is what's wild to me. Something different every race weekend and its got to the point now, even if its something 'little' its in everybody's head as the above.

The million $ question - were the Scuderia's strategists that much better on Sunday (let's not even talk about Saturday!), or was it just that their pasta break coincided with the safety car and they forgot to instruct their drivers to box?

[danegrey]

Qualiging for Sunday's race
| POS | DRIVER | TEAM | RACE TIME | LAPS |
| 1 | Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:04.391 | 24 |
| 2 | Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | 1:04.439 | 26 |
| 3 | Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | 1:04.581 | 25 |
| 4 | Lando Norris | McLaren | 1:04.658 | 23 |
| 5 | Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | 1:04.819 | 25 |
| 6 | Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | 1:04.893 | 25 |
| 7 | Fernando Alonso | Aston Martin | 1:04.911 | 27 |
| 8 | Nico Hülkenberg | Haas | 1:05.090 | 24 |
| 9 | Pierre Gasly | Alpine | 1:05.170 | 21 |
| 10 | Alexander Albon | Williams | 1:05.823 | 21 |
| 11 | George Russell | Mercedes | 1:05.428 | 21 |
| 12 | Esteban Ocon | Alpine | 1:05.453 | 15 |
| 13 | Oscar Piastri | McLaren | 1:05.605 | 19 |
| 14 | Valtteri Bottas | Alfa Romeo | 1:05.680 | 14 |
| 15 | Sergio Pérez | Red Bull | 2:06.688 | 19 |
| 16 | Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | 1:05.784 | 10 |
| 17 | Zhou Guanyu | Alfa Romeo | 1:05.818 | 9 |
| 18 | Logan Sargeant | Williams | 1:05.948 | 9 |
| 19 | Kevin Magnussen | Haas | 1:05.971 | 10 |
| 20 | Nyck de Vries | AlphaTauri | 1:05.974 | 10 |

There were a lot of laps deleted because of going over the white line.
Most noticeable was Perez, who had ever fast time in Q2 deleted.

Interesting on how Norris with the upgrades was very quick

Haas surprised me, for I read they were using this as a test weekend, to try to fix the car in race conditions...

It was entertaining with all the laps that were deleted.

[ZCanadian]

Originally Posted by danegrey

Qualiging for Sunday's race
| POS | DRIVER | TEAM | RACE TIME | LAPS |
| 1 | Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:04.391 | 24 |
| 2 | Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | 1:04.439 | 26 |
| 3 | Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | 1:04.581 | 25 |
| 4 | Lando Norris | McLaren | 1:04.658 | 23 |
| 5 | Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | 1:04.819 | 25 |
| 6 | Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | 1:04.893 | 25 |
| 7 | Fernando Alonso | Aston Martin | 1:04.911 | 27 |
| 8 | Nico Hülkenberg | Haas | 1:05.090 | 24 |
| 9 | Pierre Gasly | Alpine | 1:05.170 | 21 |
| 10 | Alexander Albon | Williams | 1:05.823 | 21 |
| 11 | George Russell | Mercedes | 1:05.428 | 21 |
| 12 | Esteban Ocon | Alpine | 1:05.453 | 15 |
| 13 | Oscar Piastri | McLaren | 1:05.605 | 19 |
| 14 | Valtteri Bottas | Alfa Romeo | 1:05.680 | 14 |
| 15 | Sergio Pérez | Red Bull | 2:06.688 | 19 |
| 16 | Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | 1:05.784 | 10 |
| 17 | Zhou Guanyu | Alfa Romeo | 1:05.818 | 9 |
| 18 | Logan Sargeant | Williams | 1:05.948 | 9 |
| 19 | Kevin Magnussen | Haas | 1:05.971 | 10 |
| 20 | Nyck de Vries | AlphaTauri | 1:05.974 | 10 |

There were a lot of laps deleted because of going over the white line.
Most noticeable was Perez, who had ever fast time in Q2 deleted.

Interesting on how Norris with the upgrades was very quick

Haas surprised me, for I read they were using this as a test weekend, to try to fix the car in race conditions...

It was entertaining with all the laps that were deleted.

Ferrari 5 one-hundreths off the pace.
That's where they need to be on race day, in order to stay competitive.
And not trip over their own strategy or make driver mistakes - I'm not holding my breath! But one can dream.

Yes, great to see Lando do so well. Although I suspect it might have been a different story had other drivers managed to stay in bounds.

So is this the same deal as the last sprint - this sets the grid for Saturday AND Sunday?

[ZCanadian]

Now it gets interesting - Sky is reporting that Max is being called to the Stewards office to answer claims he was impeding K-Mag.
Probably won't come to anything.

[ZCanadian]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Now it gets interesting - Sky is reporting that Max is being called to the Stewards office to answer claims he was impeding K-Mag.
Probably won't come to anything.

Yep, no further action.

[danegrey]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Ferrari 5 one-hundreths off the pace.
That's where they need to be on race day, in order to stay competitive.
And not trip over their own strategy or make driver mistakes - I'm not holding my breath! But one can dream.

Yes, great to see Lando do so well. Although I suspect it might have been a different story had other drivers managed to stay in bounds.

So is this the same deal as the last sprint - this sets the grid for Saturday AND Sunday?

grid set for sunday, tomoorow / saturday they have quals for the sprint race

[danegrey]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Yep, no further action.
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Yup no further action, need something to make it interesting

[danegrey]

And the sprint race was interesting, they had some rain, started on intermediates and some switched to slicks with about 5-6 laps to go..

If you get a chance watch it... Haas score some points and the Hulk was running 2nd for half the race....

[ZCanadian]

THIS, in case it is not obvious to the un-trained eye, is what Forumula 1 calls a "more regionalized" calendar for 2024.
No, no, actually I AM serious. That's what they are touting. Swapping Japan and Azerbaijan makes it more regionalized.

[danegrey]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

THIS, in case it is not obvious to the un-trained eye, is what Forumula 1 calls a "more regionalized" calendar for 2024.
No, no, actually I AM serious. That's what they are touting. Swapping Japan and Azerbaijan makes it more regionalized.

I don't like it, here and there and everywhere and 3 night races hmmm
too many for me