2023 Formula 1 Thread

[danegrey]

FP 2 results
1 Max Verstappen Red Bull 1m29.603s
2 Fernando Alonso Aston Martin-Mercedes 1m29.811s +0.208s
3 Sergio Pérez Red Bull 1m29.902s +0.299s
4 Esteban Ocon Alpine-Renault 1m30.039s +0.436s
5 George Russell Mercedes 1m30.07s +0.467s
6 Pierre Gasly Alpine-Renault 1m30.1s +0.497s
7 Lance Stroll Aston Martin-Mercedes 1m30.11s +0.507s
8 Nico Hülkenberg Haas-Ferrari 1m30.181s +0.578s
9 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 1m30.341s +0.738s
10 Carlos Sainz Jr. Ferrari 1m30.592s +0.989s
11 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m30.599s +0.996s
12 Lando Norris McLaren-Mercedes 1m30.721s +1.118s
13 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri-Honda RBPT 1m30.776s +1.173s
14 Alex Albon Williams-Mercedes 1m30.81s +1.207s
15 Kevin Magnussen Haas-Ferrari 1m30.82s +1.217s
16 Guanyu Zhou Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 1m30.837s +1.234s
17 Nyck de Vries AlphaTauri-Honda RBPT 1m30.921s +1.318s
18 Logan Sargeant Williams-Mercedes 1m30.959s +1.356s
19 Oscar Piastri McLaren-Mercedes 1m30.964s +1.361s
20 Valtteri Bottas Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 1m31.052s +1.449s

I think Ferrari is in real trouble..
Hulkenberg has great one lap pace
Aston Martin is for real
Alpine looks good

[ZCanadian]

Reliability might be a factor in this year’s championships.

Charles had replaced new parts before the very first race of the season.

Before race 2, we now have:
Perez on second gearbox and driveline.
Sainz on second engine.
Leclerc on second engine and MGU-H
Norris on second engine, turbocharger, and MGU-H

[danegrey]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Reliability might be a factor in this year’s championships.

Charles had replaced new parts before the very first race of the season.

Before race 2, we now have:
Perez on second gearbox and driveline.
Sainz on second engine.
Leclerc on second engine and MGU-H
Norris on second engine, turbocharger, and MGU-H

WOW, not good at all

[danegrey]

Practice 3
Saudi Arabian GP FP3
Pos No Driver Car Time
1 1 Verstappen Red Bull Racing 1m28.485s
2 11 Perez Red Bull Racing 1m29.098s
3 14 Alonso Aston Martin 1m29.483s
4 18 Stroll Aston Martin 1m29.509s
5 44 Hamilton Mercedes 1m29.568s
6 4 Norris McLaren 1m29.690s
7 81 Piastri McLaren 1m29.698s
8 10 Gasly Alpine 1m29.701s
9 63 Russell Mercedes 1m29.811s
10 55 Sainz Ferrari 1m29.844s
11 16 Leclerc Ferrari 1m29.897s
12 24 Zhou Alfa Romeo 1m29.917s
13 27 Hulkenberg Haas F1 Team 1m29.933s
14 31 Ocon Alpine 1m29.953s
15 23 Albon Williams 1m29.983s
16 2 Sargeant Williams 1m30.035s
17 20 Magnussen Haas F1 Team 1m30.131s
18 77 Bottas Alfa Romeo 1m30.317s
19 22 Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1m30.797s
20 21 De Vries AlphaTauri Not running

OH NO - I think the F1 season is over, the Red Bulls are on pace and Max,untouchable.

Ferrari - big trouble
AlphaTarui - a mess
Aston Martin - best of the rest

we'll have to see how qualifying goes.

[danegrey]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Reliability might be a factor in this year’s championships.

Charles had replaced new parts before the very first race of the season.

Before race 2, we now have:
Perez on second gearbox and driveline.
Sainz on second engine.
Leclerc on second engine and MGU-H
Norris on second engine, turbocharger, and MGU-H

just heard
Max - on 2nd gearbox
De Vries - new engine did not take part in FP3

[ZCanadian]

Originally Posted by danegrey

just heard
Max - on 2nd gearbox
De Vries - new engine did not take part in FP3

Hmmm. Between budget caps and grid penalties, the series might be interesting after all. But for the wrong reasons...

[danegrey]

Max had a driveline problem in Q2, is out

[danegrey]

Qualifying results

1 Sergio Pérez Red Bull 1m29.244s 1m28.635s 1m28.265s
2 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 1m29.376s 1m28s 1m28.42s
3 Fernando Alonso Aston Martin 1m29.298s 1m28.757s 1m28.73s
4 George Russell Mercedes 1m29.592s 1m29.132s 1m28.857s
5 Carlos Sainz Jr. Ferrari 1m29.411s 1m28.957s 1m28.931s
6 Lance Stroll Aston Martin 1m29.335s 1m28.962s 1m28.945s
7 Esteban Ocon Alpine-Renault 1m29.707s 1m29.255s 1m29.078s
8 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m29.689s 1m29.374s 1m29.223s
9 Oscar Piastri McLaren-Mercedes 1m29.706s 1m29.378s 1m29.243s
10 Pierre Gasly Alpine-Renault 1m29.89s 1m29.411s 1m29.357s
11 Nico Hülkenberg Haas-Ferrari 1m29.547s 1m29.451s
12 Guanyu Zhou Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 1m29.654s 1m29.461s
13 Kevin Magnussen Haas-Ferrari 1m29.744s 1m29.517s
14 Valtteri Bottas Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 1m29.929s 1m29.668s
15 Max Verstappen Red Bull 1m28.761s 1m49.953s
16 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri-Honda RBPT 1m29.939s
17 Alex Albon Williams-Mercedes 1m29.994s
18 Nyck de Vries AlphaTauri-Honda RBPT 1m30.244s
19 Lando Norris McLaren-Mercedes 1m30.447s
20 Logan Sargeant Williams-Mercedes 2m08.51s

Max in 15 after a driveshaft problem, going to make the race interesting

[ZCanadian]

Originally Posted by danegrey

Qualifying results

1 Sergio Pérez Red Bull 1m29.244s 1m28.635s 1m28.265s
2 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 1m29.376s 1m28s 1m28.42s
3 Fernando Alonso Aston Martin 1m29.298s 1m28.757s 1m28.73s
4 George Russell Mercedes 1m29.592s 1m29.132s 1m28.857s
5 Carlos Sainz Jr. Ferrari 1m29.411s 1m28.957s 1m28.931s
6 Lance Stroll Aston Martin 1m29.335s 1m28.962s 1m28.945s
7 Esteban Ocon Alpine-Renault 1m29.707s 1m29.255s 1m29.078s
8 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m29.689s 1m29.374s 1m29.223s
9 Oscar Piastri McLaren-Mercedes 1m29.706s 1m29.378s 1m29.243s
10 Pierre Gasly Alpine-Renault 1m29.89s 1m29.411s 1m29.357s
11 Nico Hülkenberg Haas-Ferrari 1m29.547s 1m29.451s
12 Guanyu Zhou Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 1m29.654s 1m29.461s
13 Kevin Magnussen Haas-Ferrari 1m29.744s 1m29.517s
14 Valtteri Bottas Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 1m29.929s 1m29.668s
15 Max Verstappen Red Bull 1m28.761s 1m49.953s
16 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri-Honda RBPT 1m29.939s
17 Alex Albon Williams-Mercedes 1m29.994s
18 Nyck de Vries AlphaTauri-Honda RBPT 1m30.244s
19 Lando Norris McLaren-Mercedes 1m30.447s
20 Logan Sargeant Williams-Mercedes 2m08.51s

Max in 15 after a driveshaft problem, going to make the race interesting

And Charles starting 12 after penalties. Going to make for a scramble start mid-pack to try to get out of traffic as soon as possible!

[Ventruck]

The Alonso penalty is pretty sour.
Maybe a "rules are rules" stance I can understand, even whatever fraction of a second was off target wasn't giving him any kind of advantage, but the timing of issuing the penalty at the end of the race was the real BS.

[danegrey]

Originally Posted by Ventruck

The Alonso penalty is pretty sour.
Maybe a "rules are rules" stance I can understand, even whatever fraction of a second was off target wasn't giving him any kind of advantage, but the timing of issuing the penalty at the end of the race was the real BS.

Yea, BUT the FIA blew it in not telling them earlier in the race. It would have been interesting if he could've pulled out the 10 seconds

[Spooler]

Originally Posted by Ventruck

The Alonso penalty is pretty sour.
Maybe a "rules are rules" stance I can understand, even whatever fraction of a second was off target wasn't giving him any kind of advantage, but the timing of issuing the penalty at the end of the race was the real BS.

Team touched the car while serving the penalty. That's a NO NO. Rear jack was touching and a crew member was touching it. Sucks to be them.

[danegrey]

Originally Posted by Spooler

Team touched the car while serving the penalty. That's a NO NO. Rear jack was touching and a crew member was touching it. Sucks to be them.

- but waiting till after the race, that was like on lap 19, that what sucks

[danegrey]

Alonso Penalty overturned

However, even though the pitstop and offence occurred on lap 19 of 50, the 10-second penalty was only announced after Alonso had already been on the podium.

This was because the pitstop had initially been reviewed by both race control and the FIA’s remote operations centre (ROC), which both determined that the penalty had been properly served – only to change their minds right at the end of the race.

On the last lap, the stewards were informed by race control, which in turn had received a report from the ROC, that they considered the penalty had not been properly served after all.

https://the-race.com/formula-1/alons...ty-overturned/

[Ventruck]

Justice in Jeddah

Weird way to take the 100th, but I'm sure Alonso isn't bothered at all.