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LOL, both things can be true. You can prepare and still become victim! Most fun place of my European travels is Budapest!

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My wife's home city. If you go tell me. We have good things to pass on where to eat etc. Her family is all there of course. We give you good data they have. I wish to live there but she is not ready. Most likely we retire in Spain. Sun lol
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Right on! We had a great time and the food was awesome. The people were amazing! I will definitely hit you up. Spain and Portugal are two of the cheapest places to retire. We have to visit Portugal as my wife is part Portuguese!

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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/im...cars/10085429/

Imola kerbs could pose headache for F1 2022 cars
Formula 1 teams and drivers could face a headache with the kerbs at this weekend's Emilia Romagna Grand Prix thanks to the characteristics of the 2022 cars.

By: Jonathan Noble
Apr 21, 2022, 5:12 AM

The start of the European season takes place at the old-school Imola circuit, which features much more aggressive kerbs than have been present at the modern venues that have hosted races so far this season.

In the past, drivers have found that they have needed to ride the Imola kerbs a lot to deliver the fastest possible laptime, with the chicanes in particular offering good gains if they are straight-lined.

But a new more cautious approach may be needed from this weekend because of the arrival of ground effect cars.

With so much of the car performance coming from the airflow under the car, teams are having to run their machines much closer to the ground than they have in the past.

And that reduction in ground clearance opens the risk for drivers to damage their floors if they run across the kerbs as aggressively as they have in the past.

One senior engineer told Autosport: "If you look at the start of last year's race, when Lewis Hamilton had to run across the kerbs at Turn 1 to avoid colliding with Max Verstappen, that would have badly crunched his floor if it happened with a 2022 car."
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Imola kerbs could pose headache for F1 2022 cars
Formula 1 teams and drivers could face a headache with the kerbs at this weekend's Emilia Romagna Grand Prix thanks to the characteristics of the 2022 cars.

By: Jonathan Noble
Apr 21, 2022, 5:12 AM

The start of the European season takes place at the old-school Imola circuit, which features much more aggressive kerbs than have been present at the modern venues that have hosted races so far this season.

In the past, drivers have found that they have needed to ride the Imola kerbs a lot to deliver the fastest possible laptime, with the chicanes in particular offering good gains if they are straight-lined.

But a new more cautious approach may be needed from this weekend because of the arrival of ground effect cars.

With so much of the car performance coming from the airflow under the car, teams are having to run their machines much closer to the ground than they have in the past.

And that reduction in ground clearance opens the risk for drivers to damage their floors if they run across the kerbs as aggressively as they have in the past.

One senior engineer told Autosport: "If you look at the start of last year's race, when Lewis Hamilton had to run across the kerbs at Turn 1 to avoid colliding with Max Verstappen, that would have badly crunched his floor if it happened with a 2022 car."
Max: "memo to self - make opposing car run wide here...." LOL
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if you get a chance watch qualifying, was interesting and long, lots of red flags, rain dry, rain....

Only hint at what happen KevinM is 4th....
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Well if it wasn't for DRS, don't think there would have been any passing, kind a suck in watching the sprint race.... And the DRS made it so easy...
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I like how it seemingly came down to strategy, with Max being able to save his tires a bit more than LeClerc. Both of them knew better than to actually risk a DNF today.

Sainz and Perez did work.

HAAS cars in the top 10 on Mediums!
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I like how it seemingly came down to strategy, with Max being able to save his tires a bit more than LeClerc. Both of them knew better than to actually risk a DNF today.

Sainz and Perez did work.

HAAS cars in the top 10 on Mediums!
Mediums are the tires tomorrow overall. Hard to say but passing ls not easy at Imola. Start soft and move to mediums and grind it out.
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Deeper look at what Mercedes face with this new car that is now a ZERO. Tough days ahead. They admit it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/61202423 -

Emilia Romagna Grand Prix: Lewis Hamilton says Mercedes 'not fighting for championship'
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LeClerc lost sight of the long game there.

Russell with another fortunate finish.

Hamilton literally non-existent, getting lapped and all.

Positive for me this weekend is people's champ K-Mag.
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Russell with another fortunate finish.

Hamilton literally non-existent, getting lapped and all.

Positive for me this weekend is people's champ K-Mag.
Was hoping to see a Bottas pass on Russell. The rest was a mess lol.

No DRS shows us how sad this current formulae is. Its not enough to be close and stay there. The engine parity reduces closure and you NEED DRS to pass. This was a big example of how ADDICTED F1 is to DRS.

Mercedes will need a new floor to even get a grip on porpoise issue. Russell now is complaining of chest and back pain due to the porpoising of the chassis. Uh......thats not good and in some industries they would have to fix this issue immediately etc. As an employee he would have leverage legally. I was worried about that watching the amount they are suffering. You cant build and race a car that will destroy your drivers health just 'driving' it around. Nuts.

Russell battling back and chest pains thanks to porpoising
George Russell says he is starting to struggle with back and chest pains as a result of the extreme porpoising the current generation of Formula 1 cars are experiencing.

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The bouncing phenomenon has returned to F1 as a consequence of the new ground effect cars that have been designed to try to help improve the racing.

While some teams have managed to get a better handle on the matter, Mercedes is one of the teams that has suffered the most from it.

And beyond the competitive compromises that the porpoising has forced upon Mercedes, Russell has confessed to now having to battle the pain barrier.

Speaking about how his W13 feels from the cockpit, Russell said: "When the car is in the right window and the tyres are in the right window, the car - except for the bouncing - feels really good to drive.

"But the bouncing: it really takes your breath away. It's the most extreme I've ever felt it.

"I really hope we find a solution and I hope every team struggling with the bouncing finds a solution, because it's not sustainable for the drivers to continue.

"This is the first weekend I've truly been struggling with my back, and almost like chest pains from the severity of the bouncing. It's just what we have to do to go and do the fastest laps."
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Was hoping to see a Bottas pass on Russell. The rest was a mess lol.

No DRS shows us how sad this current formulae is. Its not enough to be close and stay there. The engine parity reduces closure and you NEED DRS to pass. This was a big example of how ADDICTED F1 is to DRS.

Mercedes will need a new floor to even get a grip on porpoise issue. Russell now is complaining of chest and back pain due to the porpoising of the chassis. Uh......thats not good and in some industries they would have to fix this issue immediately etc. As an employee he would have leverage legally. I was worried about that watching the amount they are suffering. You cant build and race a car that will destroy your drivers health just 'driving' it around. Nuts.

Russell battling back and chest pains thanks to porpoising
George Russell says he is starting to struggle with back and chest pains as a result of the extreme porpoising the current generation of Formula 1 cars are experiencing.

Jonathan Noble
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Jonathan Noble
Co-author:
Adam Cooper
Apr 24, 2022, 1:45 PM


The bouncing phenomenon has returned to F1 as a consequence of the new ground effect cars that have been designed to try to help improve the racing.

While some teams have managed to get a better handle on the matter, Mercedes is one of the teams that has suffered the most from it.

And beyond the competitive compromises that the porpoising has forced upon Mercedes, Russell has confessed to now having to battle the pain barrier.

Speaking about how his W13 feels from the cockpit, Russell said: "When the car is in the right window and the tyres are in the right window, the car - except for the bouncing - feels really good to drive.

"But the bouncing: it really takes your breath away. It's the most extreme I've ever felt it.

"I really hope we find a solution and I hope every team struggling with the bouncing finds a solution, because it's not sustainable for the drivers to continue.

"This is the first weekend I've truly been struggling with my back, and almost like chest pains from the severity of the bouncing. It's just what we have to do to go and do the fastest laps."
Haven't looked too hard into it but was watching clips on YT and someone mentioned that Russell's floor was legitimately damaged. That had me wondering how much an F1 driver's health was at risk, although I imagine it's in varying degrees if the front runners seem to be able to focus entirely the racing itself with no complaints.
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Was hoping to see a Bottas pass on Russell. The rest was a mess lol.

No DRS shows us how sad this current formulae is. Its not enough to be close and stay there. The engine parity reduces closure and you NEED DRS to pass. This was a big example of how ADDICTED F1 is to DRS.

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Some of that was specific to this track with only one fairly short DRS zone, and an easy defence to block a pass near the end of the zone. Although we'll see more just like it through the season. We may have "parity" in engines (not sure that we do, but be that as it may). I'd say that seeing Bottas trying and failing repeatedly to get by Russel even with the DRS and being all over the back of the Mercedes suggests that DRS isn't always sufficient. Russel didn't even have his front wing adjusted properly with the change to slicks!

When Gasly couldn't get by Albon (even WITH DRS), you know there remain some fundamental problems with many of the cars, and they're still coming to grips with setup.
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Some of that was specific to this track with only one fairly short DRS zone, and an easy defence to block a pass near the end of the zone. Although we'll see more just like it through the season. We may have "parity" in engines (not sure that we do, but be that as it may). I'd say that seeing Bottas trying and failing repeatedly to get by Russel even with the DRS and being all over the back of the Mercedes suggests that DRS isn't always sufficient. Russel didn't even have his front wing adjusted properly with the change to slicks!

When Gasly couldn't get by Albon (even WITH DRS), you know there remain some fundamental problems with many of the cars, and they're still coming to grips with setup.
Would it had been different if it was dry? Getting to the end of DRS zone, still a bit damp and no one really tried. Just made for a bit of a boring race... Red Bull got this one right
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