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Old 05-06-2022, 08:37 AM   #331 (permalink)
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Mercedes still in "trial and error" mode with porpoising F1 updates
Mercedes says it is still in "trial and error" mode with its Formula 1 car updates, as it continues efforts to find a cure for its porpoising problems.


https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/me...ates/10295468/

“Unfortunately, with no testing, every race weekend is a little bit of a live experiment.

“You can't replicate the bouncing that we see on track in the windtunnel. And therefore, it's like in the old days, it's a little bit of trial and error, what does it actually do in real life?

“Therefore we are looking at a few directions where we believe they could help us to solve the problem long term without losing the goodness of the downforce by just lifting it up or patching the floor.

“There will be tweaks on the car this weekend where we think we can get a direction. But the performance of the car, we won't unlock it from one weekend to the other.”
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Hamilton: Miami F1 chicane like racing around B&Q car park in a kart
Lewis Hamilton says the Miami Formula 1 circuit’s tight uphill chicane reminds him of driving karts around B&Q car parks as a kid.


By: Jonathan Noble
May 7, 2022, 4:02 AM
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While Hamilton escaped any major dramas on a day when a number of other drivers hit trouble around the new F1 venue, he was left far from impressed about the sequence of corners before the long final straight.

The elevated Turn 14/15 chicane, which passes under a turnpike, has been designed to generate mistakes that leave drivers exposed to a potential challenge from behind on the following run down to the last corner.

However, the ultra-compact nature of the complex, with drivers needing to attack the kerbs at slow speed, did not impress the seven-time world champion.

“The track's quite nice to drive except for the chicane,” said Hamilton. “It's so tight. It reminds me of being in a B&Q car park when I was six years old or seven years old, in a go kart, going in between cars.

“It's a corner where maybe in future they can remove that one and it will improve the track.”

Hamilton also said that he was not too happy with how bumpy the track was on the first day of running.

“It's kind of crazy when you think that people in this day and age should be able to make a flat road relatively easy,” he said. “There were frigging big, big, big bumps and so many places where the track like joins up with somewhere else. So I don't know if they will be able to grind that at night and improve it.”


But not all drivers were so downbeat about the circuit, with Kevin Magnussen saying he actually like the challenge of the chicane.

“That's kind of cool,” he said. “It's not thrilling in the same way as the high-speed corners, but it's very blind and it's like over a crest with big kerbs, and big change of direction at low speed.

“It's quite unique I'd say, so in that way cool. But it's obviously very slow.”

One of the key problems on the opening day of action, which triggered a number of incidents, was the dirty track surface. It meant that if drivers did stray off the racing line then they were almost guaranteed to spin.

Red Bull driver Sergio Perez feared that if the situation did not improve then that did not bode well for the race.

“I’m extremely disappointed that there is no grip off-line,” he said. “It’s a shame, because I think the racing will be bad due to that.

“As soon as you try to go off-line, there is no grip. It’s done. It feels very gravel-y off-line. So the racing will be hard.”

Alfa Romeo driver Valtteri Bottas liked the challenges that had been posed by the layout though, as he predicted an exciting race on Sunday, despite being caught out at Turn 7 in FP1, crashing heavily which meant he missed all of FP2.

“It is not an easy track for sure,” he told Autosport. “Definitely when the track is green, it can happen more easily. But once you go slightly offline, if you lose the rear end, you can't catch it any more.

“That technical section from Turns 12 to 15 is not easy to get it right, but I think they’ve done a good job on the overtaking opportunities.

“I think we’re going to see some good racing here with the long straights and with them starting with a slow speed corner, it means you can follow close.”
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WTF is going on with Carlito? Three races in a row he’s botching the ride and his and Ferrari’s shot at championship points.

I look forward to seeing how the integration of the American celebrities plus showing off Miami works out with the race weekend as a whole.
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Pierre got to have dinner with Michael Jordan. Understandably, everyone else is jealous lmao.
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Perez brands Miami track surface “a joke” as drivers fear poor race
Formula 1 drivers have criticised the surface of the new Miami GP track, leading to Red Bull driver Sergio Perez calling it “a joke.”


Throughout practice and qualifying drivers found that there is no grip if they stray off the rubbered-in racing line.

The consensus is that the prospect of an entertaining race will be compromised because drivers cannot move off line to attempt a pass.

“I think most importantly the surface is a joke,” said Perez when asked by Autosport if there will be any passing in the race.

“Tomorrow the racing is going be difficult. And you're going to have the drivers making mistakes because we've been put into this situation.”

In addition to Perez's comments, Fernando Alonso said that the track surface was “not F1 standards”, while Lando Norris suggested that it was “not good enough.”

Alonso revealed that the subject had been discussed in Friday night’s drivers’ briefing, and that the lack of grip had not improved on Saturday.

“It's still very difficult to go offline,” he said. “There's like rubble out of line, so it's going to be difficult. We said yesterday that the track, the tarmac, is not F1 standards.

“Nothing we can do. I think this weekend we need to put the show, but this has to change for next year. It's very difficult to race like this.”
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Otherwise season is still delivering.
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For the Love of God, Sky please take the mic away from Martin Brundle and Never let him do another Grid Walk!! It was a Total Train Wreck!!
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Patrick....excuse me Patrick, umm Patrick?
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I like this track compared to others and the physicality required to the finish was great but....

Pirelli helmets
CHiPs in Miami, sirens blazing in the tunnel
5 figure cabanas
Gridwalk circus
T14/15 wonky Crazchicanes
T12 mermaids
and Sea H20 asphalt wrap?

Send in Will Smith to slap some sense to the organizers.
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I like this track compared to others and the physicality required to the finish was great but....

Pirelli helmets
CHiPs in Miami, sirens blazing in the tunnel
5 figure cabanas
Gridwalk circus
T14/15 wonky Crazchicanes
T12 mermaids
and Sea H20 asphalt wrap?

Send in Will Smith to slap some sense to the organizers.
I feel ya, but got to say the turn out looked like a great success. Should only improve from here.
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I feel ya, but got to say the turn out looked like a great success. Should only improve from here.
Sort the track issues first
Then sort the other non race related issues like - seats/prices/atmosphere not so............silly. A show is good but the show has now over shadowed the race itself.

Liberty must remember its a race event. This was too processional and only the late safety car made it somewhat of a race.

When you get engine and aero parity as a focus you get lots of following........not much racing overall. Not sure this season is really more exciting than last so far.
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For the Love of God, Sky please take the mic away from Martin Brundle and Never let him do another Grid Walk!! It was a Total Train Wreck!!
He did officially apologize. Look SKY F1 folks are not super NFL smart. They cover F1

--The grid was incredibly busy pre-race too, and my sincere apologies to Patrick Mahomes and Paolo Banchero for the confusion.

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https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/24...stery-persists
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He did officially apologize. Look SKY F1 folks are not super NFL smart. They cover F1

--The grid was incredibly busy pre-race too, and my sincere apologies to Patrick Mahomes and Paolo Banchero for the confusion.

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https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/24...stery-persists
And honestly, I don't care what a bunch of celebrities think about the race - betting 99% are not F1 fans and couldn't tell you the names of more than 3 drivers in all the history of the sport. They're there to enhance their own brand, to see and be seen. And frankly, I don't need to watch that during coverage of an F1 race weekend.
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And honestly, I don't care what a bunch of celebrities think about the race - betting 99% are not F1 fans and couldn't tell you the names of more than 3 drivers in all the history of the sport. They're there to enhance their own brand, to see and be seen. And frankly, I don't need to watch that during coverage of an F1 race weekend.
https://www.planetf1.com/features/co...mi-grand-prix/
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I like this track compared to others and the physicality required to the finish was great but....

Pirelli helmets
CHiPs in Miami, sirens blazing in the tunnel
5 figure cabanas
Gridwalk circus
T14/15 wonky Crazchicanes
T12 mermaids
and Sea H20 asphalt wrap?

Send in Will Smith to slap some sense to the organizers.
I can only imagine what Las Vegas Grand Prix will be like.
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