2022 Formula 1 Thread

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by Ventruck

I like how it seemingly came down to strategy, with Max being able to save his tires a bit more than LeClerc. Both of them knew better than to actually risk a DNF today.

Sainz and Perez did work.

HAAS cars in the top 10 on Mediums!

Mediums are the tires tomorrow overall. Hard to say but passing ls not easy at Imola. Start soft and move to mediums and grind it out.

[DLSTR]

Deeper look at what Mercedes face with this new car that is now a ZERO. Tough days ahead. They admit it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/61202423 -

Emilia Romagna Grand Prix: Lewis Hamilton says Mercedes 'not fighting for championship'

[Ventruck]

LeClerc lost sight of the long game there.

Russell with another fortunate finish.

Hamilton literally non-existent, getting lapped and all.

Positive for me this weekend is people's champ K-Mag.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by Ventruck

LeClerc lost sight of the long game there.

Russell with another fortunate finish.

Hamilton literally non-existent, getting lapped and all.

Positive for me this weekend is people's champ K-Mag.

Was hoping to see a Bottas pass on Russell. The rest was a mess lol.

No DRS shows us how sad this current formulae is. Its not enough to be close and stay there. The engine parity reduces closure and you NEED DRS to pass. This was a big example of how ADDICTED F1 is to DRS.

Mercedes will need a new floor to even get a grip on porpoise issue. Russell now is complaining of chest and back pain due to the porpoising of the chassis. Uh......thats not good and in some industries they would have to fix this issue immediately etc. As an employee he would have leverage legally. I was worried about that watching the amount they are suffering. You cant build and race a car that will destroy your drivers health just 'driving' it around. Nuts.

Russell battling back and chest pains thanks to porpoising
George Russell says he is starting to struggle with back and chest pains as a result of the extreme porpoising the current generation of Formula 1 cars are experiencing.
Jonathan Noble
By:
Jonathan Noble
Co-author:
Adam Cooper
Apr 24, 2022, 1:45 PM


The bouncing phenomenon has returned to F1 as a consequence of the new ground effect cars that have been designed to try to help improve the racing.

While some teams have managed to get a better handle on the matter, Mercedes is one of the teams that has suffered the most from it.

And beyond the competitive compromises that the porpoising has forced upon Mercedes, Russell has confessed to now having to battle the pain barrier.

Speaking about how his W13 feels from the cockpit, Russell said: "When the car is in the right window and the tyres are in the right window, the car - except for the bouncing - feels really good to drive.

"But the bouncing: it really takes your breath away. It's the most extreme I've ever felt it.

"I really hope we find a solution and I hope every team struggling with the bouncing finds a solution, because it's not sustainable for the drivers to continue.

"This is the first weekend I've truly been struggling with my back, and almost like chest pains from the severity of the bouncing. It's just what we have to do to go and do the fastest laps."

[Ventruck]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

Was hoping to see a Bottas pass on Russell. The rest was a mess lol.

No DRS shows us how sad this current formulae is. Its not enough to be close and stay there. The engine parity reduces closure and you NEED DRS to pass. This was a big example of how ADDICTED F1 is to DRS.

Mercedes will need a new floor to even get a grip on porpoise issue. Russell now is complaining of chest and back pain due to the porpoising of the chassis. Uh......thats not good and in some industries they would have to fix this issue immediately etc. As an employee he would have leverage legally. I was worried about that watching the amount they are suffering. You cant build and race a car that will destroy your drivers health just 'driving' it around. Nuts.

Russell battling back and chest pains thanks to porpoising
George Russell says he is starting to struggle with back and chest pains as a result of the extreme porpoising the current generation of Formula 1 cars are experiencing.
Jonathan Noble
By:
Jonathan Noble
Co-author:
Adam Cooper
Apr 24, 2022, 1:45 PM


The bouncing phenomenon has returned to F1 as a consequence of the new ground effect cars that have been designed to try to help improve the racing.

While some teams have managed to get a better handle on the matter, Mercedes is one of the teams that has suffered the most from it.

And beyond the competitive compromises that the porpoising has forced upon Mercedes, Russell has confessed to now having to battle the pain barrier.

Speaking about how his W13 feels from the cockpit, Russell said: "When the car is in the right window and the tyres are in the right window, the car - except for the bouncing - feels really good to drive.

"But the bouncing: it really takes your breath away. It's the most extreme I've ever felt it.

"I really hope we find a solution and I hope every team struggling with the bouncing finds a solution, because it's not sustainable for the drivers to continue.

"This is the first weekend I've truly been struggling with my back, and almost like chest pains from the severity of the bouncing. It's just what we have to do to go and do the fastest laps."

Haven't looked too hard into it but was watching clips on YT and someone mentioned that Russell's floor was legitimately damaged. That had me wondering how much an F1 driver's health was at risk, although I imagine it's in varying degrees if the front runners seem to be able to focus entirely the racing itself with no complaints.

[ZCanadian]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

Was hoping to see a Bottas pass on Russell. The rest was a mess lol.

No DRS shows us how sad this current formulae is. Its not enough to be close and stay there. The engine parity reduces closure and you NEED DRS to pass. This was a big example of how ADDICTED F1 is to DRS.

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Some of that was specific to this track with only one fairly short DRS zone, and an easy defence to block a pass near the end of the zone. Although we'll see more just like it through the season. We may have "parity" in engines (not sure that we do, but be that as it may). I'd say that seeing Bottas trying and failing repeatedly to get by Russel even with the DRS and being all over the back of the Mercedes suggests that DRS isn't always sufficient. Russel didn't even have his front wing adjusted properly with the change to slicks!

When Gasly couldn't get by Albon (even WITH DRS), you know there remain some fundamental problems with many of the cars, and they're still coming to grips with setup.

[danegrey]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Some of that was specific to this track with only one fairly short DRS zone, and an easy defence to block a pass near the end of the zone. Although we'll see more just like it through the season. We may have "parity" in engines (not sure that we do, but be that as it may). I'd say that seeing Bottas trying and failing repeatedly to get by Russel even with the DRS and being all over the back of the Mercedes suggests that DRS isn't always sufficient. Russel didn't even have his front wing adjusted properly with the change to slicks!

When Gasly couldn't get by Albon (even WITH DRS), you know there remain some fundamental problems with many of the cars, and they're still coming to grips with setup.

Would it had been different if it was dry? Getting to the end of DRS zone, still a bit damp and no one really tried. Just made for a bit of a boring race... Red Bull got this one right

[ZCanadian]

Originally Posted by danegrey

Would it had been different if it was dry? Getting to the end of DRS zone, still a bit damp and no one really tried. Just made for a bit of a boring race... Red Bull got this one right

Good point on the wet.
Basically, I think the zone was too short for most cars to get the job done early enough, and by the time they got to the end of the straight there was an easy defence for the car in front - just hog the only dry line. Cars that tried to pass on the inside here were quickly re-taken because they couldn't carry speed through the following sequence of corners.

[Hotrodz]

One DRS zone is not enough on that track. Another reason I like push to pass. You make your own DRS zone and when its gone it's gone!

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[DLSTR]

Formula 1: Have the new rules worked?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/61228976

Like all issues/changes it a bit of yes and no. Worth your time to read.

[Hotrodz]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

Formula 1: Have the new rules worked?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/61228976

Like all issues/changes it a bit of yes and no. Worth your time to read.

It is mixed bag of worms. The expense cap and handicapping the front runners with things like wind tunnel time and what not comes into play. Nothing has really changed other than Mercedes not performing well. People are loving Lewis not being able to perform and George placing above him even though most George's fortune has been due to yellow flags and timely pit stops. Regardless the MB car is off pace. I wonder when the tied turns for Max and people start saying the only reason he wins is because he has the fastest car!

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[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by Hotrodz

It is mixed bag of worms. The expense cap and handicapping the front runners with things like wind tunnel time and what not comes into play. Nothing has really changed other than Mercedes not performing well. People are loving Lewis not being able to perform and George placing above him even though most George's fortune has been due to yellow flags and timely pit stops. Regardless the MB car is off pace. I wonder when the tied turns for Max and people start saying the only reason he wins is because he has the fastest car!

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Max was fast and dirty last year. You forgot 'dirty' LOL

[DLSTR]

Ferrari bringing low downforce solution to Miami GP to combat Red Bull speed

Ferrari says its planned changes for Formula 1’s Miami Grand Prix will revolve mainly around a low-downforce solution, with a wider upgrade package for the F1-75 only coming later.

[DLSTR]

Mercedes targeting Miami for critical F1 upgrades
Mercedes is hoping that the upgrades aimed at helping it run its 2022 Formula 1 car lower to the ground will be ready for next week’s Miami Grand Prix.
Jonathan Noble
By:
Jonathan Noble
Apr 28, 2022, 5:12 AM

The German car manufacturer has been held back so far this season by porpoising, which has forced the team to run its W13 with a much higher ride height than it was originally designed for.

Raising the platform is costing it a lot of downforce, but the outfit remains convinced that if it can switch off the porpoising then it can unlock a lot of pace by being able to run the car where it was originally intended.

The team has worked hard to get to the bottom of the problem and it is now hoping that it can bring developments to Miami that will offer it a proper indication about whether or not it has begun the properly get on top of the issue.

Trackside engineering director Andrew Shovlin said the updates would not instantly solve all of Mercedes’ problems, but would at least confirm if it is heading in the right direction.

[ZCanadian]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

Mercedes targeting Miami for critical F1 upgrades
Mercedes is hoping that the upgrades aimed at helping it run its 2022 Formula 1 car lower to the ground will be ready for next week’s Miami Grand Prix.
Jonathan Noble
By:
Jonathan Noble
Apr 28, 2022, 5:12 AM

The German car manufacturer has been held back so far this season by porpoising, which has forced the team to run its W13 with a much higher ride height than it was originally designed for.

Raising the platform is costing it a lot of downforce, but the outfit remains convinced that if it can switch off the porpoising then it can unlock a lot of pace by being able to run the car where it was originally intended.

The team has worked hard to get to the bottom of the problem and it is now hoping that it can bring developments to Miami that will offer it a proper indication about whether or not it has begun the properly get on top of the issue.

Trackside engineering director Andrew Shovlin said the updates would not instantly solve all of Mercedes’ problems, but would at least confirm if it is heading in the right direction.

So, what are the manhole lids like in Miami?