2021 Formula 1 Thread

[DLSTR]

Montoya: Verstappen didn’t have intention of making Turn 4 in Hamilton incident
By:
Haydn Cobb
Nov 18, 2021, 7:42 AM
Juan Pablo Montoya believes Max Verstappen intentionally ran wide in his Turn 4 clash with Formula 1 title rival Lewis Hamilton and has questioned inconsistencies from the FIA.

Later today, the FIA stewards will hear new evidence over the incident between Verstappen and Hamilton on lap 48 and Turn 4 to judge if it needs to be investigated after the controversial clash wasn’t referred for an stewards’ investigation during the Brazilian Grand Prix.

Mercedes requested a right to review the incident after new evidence came to light, primarily the forward-facing camera footage from Verstappen’s F1 car which was published on Tuesday after the race.

Given the high-profile collisions between the F1 title rivals throughout this season, Mercedes were surprised the incident wasn’t deemed worthy of an investigation, with FIA race director Michael Masi revealing after the race Verstappen’s onboard footage wasn’t checked before ruling out an investigation.

Immediately after the race Verstappen said his worn tyres were the reason why he ran wide at Turn 4.

Speaking on This Week with Will Buxton about the incident, Montoya felt Verstappen was taking the F1 title fight implications into consideration, knowing Hamilton needed to finish ahead of him to strengthen his championship hopes, and that he wasn’t going to make the corner due to how late he braked when fighting Hamilton.

“My honest opinion, the way I think Max looks at it is: if they crash he gains points,” Montoya said. “As long as Lewis doesn't finish ahead of him, he's in a better situation for the championship.

“Lewis was alongside him and cleared him in the braking zone. There was no way as late as he braked he was gonna make the corner. I don't think he had much of an intention of making the corner.

“I don't have anything against Max. I actually really like Max and Red Bull, and they've done an amazing job to bring the fight to Mercedes. But I think they're being surprised of how good Mercedes was.”

Montoya also felt it was inconsistency from the FIA over on-track incidents, pointing to the penalties handed out to Lando Norris and Sergio Perez (twice) during the Austrian GP earlier this season.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mo...ident/6794780/

[abm89]

More or less echoing the sentiment of FIA inconsistency. Still waiting to see the results of this investigation.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by abm89

More or less echoing the sentiment of FIA inconsistency. Still waiting to see the results of this investigation.

Yes we all have great opinions but that result today is all that matters lol.

[DLSTR]

Mercedes' Brazilian GP appeal verdict delayed till Friday
Nov 18, 2021, 1:30 PM
Formula 1’s race stewards have delayed until Friday their decision over whether or not to grant Mercedes right to review on Max Verstappen’s driving in Brazil.

[Hotrodz]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

Yes we all have great opinions but that result today is all that matters lol.

Unlike the incident at Silverstone 80% or more of professional drivers, past and present state that Max was in the wrong!

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[abm89]

So I'm seeing the request to review was denied:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/an...iving/6798618/

I guess this is now allowed for the final three races. Seems like a convenient rule change given there are clear previous incidents that were penalized. >_>

[God-Speed]

Originally Posted by abm89

So I'm seeing the request to review was denied:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/an...iving/6798618/

I guess this is now allowed for the final three races. Seems like a convenient rule change given there are clear previous incidents that were penalized. >_>

The FIA need a make over far more than the cars and engines!!

[abm89]

Lewis can't afford to risk his car to pull this move on Max in the future, but Valtteri could definitely use this interpretation of the rule should he find himself in that situation. The problem is Valtteri lets anyone through.

This is a can of worms that the FIA just opened.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by abm89

Lewis can't afford to risk his car to pull this move on Max in the future, but Valtteri could definitely use this interpretation of the rule should he find himself in that situation. The problem is Valtteri lets anyone through.

This is a can of worms that the FIA just opened.

LeClerc said he will no treat Max the same given the new ruling. Max needs to remember it can go both ways. Frankly id love to see him punted off the track.

[abm89]

I'd rather not see anyone get punted off for the sake of competition, but Max now has a huge target on his back should he find himself in same-lap traffic. He's got a poor rep on the grid already with other drivers.

Fernando is for sure going to run someone wide this weekend to prove a point.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by abm89

I'd rather not see anyone get punted off for the sake of competition, but Max now has a huge target on his back should he find himself in same-lap traffic. He's got a poor rep on the grid already with other drivers.

Fernando is for sure going to run someone wide this weekend to prove a point.

Max is a liar and 2 faced idiot. He calls for fair racing and a full cars width.
He is the worst of the talented drivers on the grid - the upper level of drivers.

He has not changed or grown since he moved under braking and took himself and Ricci out in Baku. Zero growth. I wish him the worst luck in racing. Period. FK him.

[DLSTR]

Sainz and not Charles into Q3-- wow...............

Perez fail lol

[DLSTR]

Bottas winning the 'Wingman' trophy over Perez lol.

[DLSTR]

Ferrari have serious understeer.

[DLSTR]

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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ve...ement/6802833/

Verstappen summoned to stewards for yellow flags infringement in Qatar qualifying
By: Jonathan Noble
Co-author: Alex Kalinauckas
Nov 20, 2021, 12:45 PM
Max Verstappen has been summoned to see the stewards at Formula 1’s Qatar Grand Prix after allegedly ignoring double waved yellow flags on his final qualifying lap.

Verstappen's hearing with the stewards will take place at 1pm local time (10am GMT) tomorrow - four hours before the start of the Qatar GP.

For recent grands prix, the FIA has automatically deleted lap times in practice and qualifying when double waved yellows are shown – but there has been no notification about that happening for qualifying so far.

Should Verstappen be found guilty of ignoring the flags, he would lose his final lap time and could also face a grid penalty on safety grounds.