2021 Formula 1 Thread

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Vortex of danger!

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[ZCanadian]

Lewis was never going to make the apex of T2 on his line, but instead apex early. He had to, as otherwise, he would have left max enough room to get by between the two corners.

If you go by Probst in his analysis of Silverstone (and I’m not sure how relevant that analysis was, especially as he used simulation video), but this thesis was that that one was Max’s fault because “you don’t hit what you can see”, and he could “see Hamilton’s wing behind his right front wheel”. In this one, Lewis could clearly see the end plate of Verstappen’s front wing directly behind his left front wheel. Not steering away at that point ensured that both cars would be damaged or wrecked.

Max, in order to pass Lewis on the left somewhere in there, would have had to do a 3-point turn in order to leave the Mercedes enough room on the right at the exit of T2. That’s why it was never going to work. But he’s a Dutchman - wooden shoes, wooden head, wouldn’t listen. :-)

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Lewis was never going to make the apex of T2 on his line, but instead apex early. He had to, as otherwise, he would have left max enough room to get by between the two corners.

If you go by Probst in his analysis of Silverstone (and I’m not sure how relevant that analysis was, especially as he used simulation video), but this thesis was that that one was Max’s fault because “you don’t hit what you can see”, and he could “see Hamilton’s wing behind his right front wheel”. In this one, Lewis could clearly see the end plate of Verstappen’s front wing directly behind his left front wheel. Not steering away at that point ensured that both cars would be damaged or wrecked.

Max, in order to pass Lewis on the left somewhere in there, would have had to do a 3-point turn in order to leave the Mercedes enough room on the right at the exit of T2. That’s why it was never going to work. But he’s a Dutchman - wooden shoes, wooden head, wouldn’t listen. :-)

Woulda - coulda - shoulda lol

[ZCanadian]

So, halfway through the season, and Mazepin is 21st in the 20-driver standings!

His papa must be so proud.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

So, halfway through the season, and Mazepin is 21st in the 20-driver standings!

His papa must be so proud.

He needed to find his precious child some type of employment lol

One does not think Mazee-spin has any ambition at all outside of racing.

[abm89]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

So, halfway through the season, and Mazepin is 21st in the 20-driver standings!

His papa must be so proud.

To be fair, he's 21/21

[alcheng]

We have much more wars of words than racing this season... bwah...

[DLSTR]

Interesting but RedBull could not pass at all a fully loaded Mclaren. Max could not close Ricci at all when Ricci blew past on the start. So how good is it???????? A clash did not matter. Max was not at all going to win that race by passing either Mclaren. RedBull were
S L O W E R!

Honda reveals fast-tracked F1 power unit upgrade introduced at Spa

- https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ho...t-spa/6672387/
By:
Luke Smith
Sep 22, 2021, 4:57 AM
Honda has revealed it introduced a fast-tracked upgrade for its Formula 1 power unit energy store to Max Verstappen’s car at Spa last month, boosting his championship challenge.

Honda will quit F1 at the end of the season following a seven-season stint back in the series, during which it has worked with McLaren, Red Bull and AlphaTauri.

Red Bull has a chance to give Honda a farewell championship as it goes head-to-head with Mercedes for the constructors’ title, as well as seeing Verstappen in the thick of the fight for the drivers’ crown.

Honda worked to fast-track a number of its power unit developments initially planned for the 2022 season onto its 2021 design, bringing forward upgrades to assist its customer teams.

The latest step forward arrived last month at the Belgian Grand Prix when years of development led to the introduction of a new energy store that debuted on Verstappen’s car. Under the current regulations, each power unit component can be upgraded once per season.

Honda revealed on Wednesday ahead of the Russian Grand Prix that the new energy store had been introduced two races ago at Spa.

“This new energy store has been developed in a project that has taken several years, with an aim to combine improvements in energy efficiency with significant reductions in weight,” said Honda’s head of power unit development, Yasuaki Asaki.

“In what will be the company’s final season in the sport, Honda F1 has managed to introduce the new ES - fitted with a lighter, low-resistance, highly efficient and ultra-high power battery cell - just in time for the start of the second half of the season.
Sergio Perez, Red Bull Racing RB16B

Sergio Perez, Red Bull Racing RB16B

Photo by: Andy Hone / Motorsport Images

“In order to achieve the ultimate goal of defeating Mercedes and winning the championship before leaving F1 at the end of the 2021 season, we recognised the need to enhance performance.

“As such, the development plan for the new energy store was brought forward substantially from the original goal of 2022 to introduction during the 2021 season.”

Verstappen used the updated energy store to take pole position in the wet at Spa, before being declared the winner of the two-lap race following heavy rain. Verstappen also started on pole at Monza before a clash with Hamilton forced him to retire from the race.

[abm89]

Part of me likes the competition, but another part of me wants Mercedes to introduce a PU upgrade that will send RB back to the shadow realm.

I'd get a real chuckle out of that, lmao. I'm more interested in Ferrari's PU upgrade that is confirmed as coming soon.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by abm89

Part of me likes the competition, but another part of me wants Mercedes to introduce a PU upgrade that will send RB back to the shadow realm.

I'd get a real chuckle out of that, lmao. I'm more interested in Ferrari's PU upgrade that is confirmed as coming soon.

Mercedes -https://www.planetf1.com/news/merced...ngine-extreme/


Ferrari - In the team’s preview of the Russian Grand Prix this weekend, Ferrari revealed that Leclerc would be taking the updated power unit at the Sochi Autodrom to mark its on-track debut. It is understood that the power gain offered by the updated hybrid system will be less than 10bhp, but will nevertheless offer a small boost in the fight with McLaren for third in the constructors’ championship.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fe...an-gp/6672699/

[abm89]

I wonder if that's what they tested with Bottas. He came the through the field like a freight train.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by abm89

I wonder if that's what they tested with Bottas. He came the through the field like a freight train.

Bottas was the fastest for the most part the whole weekend I think. He probably would have won from Pole assuming good start. One cannot discount Mclaren in all this. RedBull had no answer for them. Maybe even Mercedes as well lol!

[Hotrodz]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

Bottas was the fastest for the most part the whole weekend I think. He probably would have won from Pole assuming good start. One cannot discount Mclaren in all this. RedBull had no answer for them. Maybe even Mercedes as well lol!

I think it was incredibly difficult to pass at the front of the pack. My perception is that Max know if he didn't get past Lewis on his out lap it was game over, so it was an all or nothing move. Well it worked, he is still leading the championship!

I will be interesting to see if RB swaps the motor since they already have a three grid place penalty.

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[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by Hotrodz

I think it was incredibly difficult to pass at the front of the pack. My perception is that Max know if he didn't get past Lewis on his out lap it was game over, so it was an all or nothing move. Well it worked, he is still leading the championship!

I will be interesting to see if RB swaps the motor since they already have a three grid place penalty.

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Max had no answer to the Mercedes- Mclaren. None. That was interesting.

[ZCanadian]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

Max had no answer to the Mercedes- Mclaren. None. That was interesting.

Yes, but unfortunately for McLaren, Monza is kind of a one-off.
Between a track suited for their car, the pole sitter stuck with an engine penalty, and the loss of the two top contenders, it was a perfect storm for a papaya 1-2 finish. I doubt that the gods will favour them so well again in the remaining races.

As for Bottas, if he couldn't pass the 12 slowest cars on the grid in a Mercedes at Monza, well, he doesn't deserve to be driving F1. I'm a fan, and he did well, but even I have to admit that charging through the slow traffic is not really an achievement. Especially when it cost him a set of tires to get there.