2021 Formula 1 Thread

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by JARblue

The guys on ESPN were giving Bottas soooo much shìt at the end for not being able to pass Perez, too. Didn't say anything about his race to that point. Fuckin tools

Bottas had the skill but tires were going away! Got 3rd nicely as Perez cant understand cutting corners and keeping places is foul. Bottas may not always be LH-fast, but Perez is clearly not as fast or savvy as Bottas!!!!!!!!!!!

[DLSTR]

FIA sees no need to change Monza kerbs after Verstappen/Hamilton clash
By:
Filip Cleeren
Co-author:
Adam Cooper
Sep 14, 2021, 4:21 AM
FIA race director Michael Masi doesn't believe the sausage kerbs at Monza's first chicane require any changes in the wake of the clash between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen at the Italian Grand Prix.

[ZCanadian]

Originally Posted by abm89

I'll take a McLaren 1-2! They said "We're back!" and kicked the f-ing door down! Zak lookin' like the proudest dad is wholesome AF. I'm 100% for it!

I can see why Max got the penalty. As explained in the stewards report, he was never fully alongside Lewis at any point into the corner. The grid penalty is simply because of the DNF, otherwise I bet the stewards would issue the 10s penalty.

I think the move itself wasn't egregious, but ill-advised. Lewis was already on a defensive line coming out of the pits, so lining him up for the next chicane would have been an easier attempt IMO. Even cutting straight across (like Perez) would have netted him a chance to finish the race. I'm sure some of you will reference "hindsight" but I felt this was a crash just by the positioning of both their cars around pit exit. As far as Lewis's part in this, I'm not surprised he shut the door. Max has done this same thing to him in Imola, Spain, and even Lap 1 at Monza. I'm sure Lewis has decided enough is enough, so expect more incidents like this. He may get more penalties because of this, but I'm sure he's done caring. As long as neither of them try some Senna or Schumacher tactics, I'm for the shenanigans.

The accident itself was made worse by the orange kerb. They need to get rid of those. A launched car not good for anyone.

Lewis should have shut the door on Turn 1 and forced Max to take the escape road, not waited until turn-in for Turn 2. Easy to say in hind sight, but showing Max a gap and then making it disappear when he started to see Max's wing behind his left wheel, when the Red Bull had no where to go, was pretty dirty. I don't think it was calculated, but it made the collision inevitable.

Max could not have hoped to make Turn 2 on the line he was taking, without collecting Lewis or pushing him off the track.

But Lewis could have put his elbows out earlier and owned the chicane, or avoided the accident by opening up at Turn 2, and Toto would have argued with the stewards to give the place back later in the race. He is not at fault, but he wore his bad decisions.

Thankfully, Max had the diff set to open for the chicane, so the right rear wheel didn't rotate. I'm thinking they would have been otherwise collecting Lewis' helmet, and its contents, off the track! Shudder to think of what that accident would have looked like pre-halo!

[ZCanadian]

WTF1???
https://www.planetf1.com/news/saudi-...la-1-takeover/

Planet F1 reporting rumours of Saudi interests considering the purchase of F1 from Liberty Media.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

WTF1???
https://www.planetf1.com/news/saudi-...la-1-takeover/

Planet F1 reporting rumours of Saudi interests considering the purchase of F1 from Liberty Media.

Liberty are looking to get out? Sure why not. Viewership is up and they have F1 TV and Social Media set up. New races etc. Sell it.

F1 is dying. What is next after the new PU in 26?? No one knows..............

They E motive world is here. E is taking over the design of the next PU. More E and then add bio-fuel with less energy than pump fuel they use now. It will burn cleaner but have less energy density. Then what? E - Electric. By 2030 the infrastructure will be developed more fully to support E vs ICE.

Makers including Mercedes are going full E. The public will be E indoctrinated.

F1 will be what?????????

[abm89]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Lewis should have shut the door on Turn 1 and forced Max to take the escape road, not waited until turn-in for Turn 2. Easy to say in hind sight, but showing Max a gap and then making it disappear when he started to see Max's wing behind his left wheel, when the Red Bull had no where to go, was pretty dirty. I don't think it was calculated, but it made the collision inevitable.

Max could not have hoped to make Turn 2 on the line he was taking, without collecting Lewis or pushing him off the track.

But Lewis could have put his elbows out earlier and owned the chicane, or avoided the accident by opening up at Turn 2, and Toto would have argued with the stewards to give the place back later in the race. He is not at fault, but he wore his bad decisions.

Thankfully, Max had the diff set to open for the chicane, so the right rear wheel didn't rotate. I'm thinking they would have been otherwise collecting Lewis' helmet, and its contents, off the track! Shudder to think of what that accident would have looked like pre-halo!

I have to agree after watching Jolyon’s analysis yesterday, there was enough space for Lewis to safely cut him off before getting to turn 1. He should have telegraphed it as “there’s no Fing way you’re getting through here Max”

However, it was hilarious to see Max attempt that on Felipe in 2017 and still crash out. Massa was even more demonstrative with his shutting of the door.

I disagree with the statement that the tactic was “dirty”. It’s just hard racing.

[abm89]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

Liberty are looking to get out? Sure why not. Viewership is up and they have F1 TV and Social Media set up. New races etc. Sell it.

F1 is dying. What is next after the new PU in 26?? No one knows..............

They E motive world is here. E is taking over the design of the next PU. More E and then add bio-fuel with less energy than pump fuel they use now. It will burn cleaner but have less energy density. Then what? E - Electric. By 2030 the infrastructure will be developed more fully to support E vs ICE.

Makers including Mercedes are going full E. The public will be E indoctrinated.

F1 will be what?????????

I feel like I’m watching DTS when reading your comments.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by abm89

i feel like i’m watching dts when reading your comments.

dts??

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by abm89

I have to agree after watching Jolyon’s analysis yesterday, there was enough space for Lewis to safely cut him off before getting to turn 1. He should have telegraphed it as “there’s no Fing way you’re getting through here Max”

However, it was hilarious to see Max attempt that on Felipe in 2017 and still crash out. Massa was even more demonstrative with his shutting of the door.

I disagree with the statement that the tactic was “dirty”. It’s just hard racing.

Max has been racing a long time overall. He has habits and is slow to change them it appears. His loss if he doesnt race a touch smarter than harder.

So much like his hot headed Papa

[abm89]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

dts??

Drive To Survive (Netflix)

All of your comments sound sensationalized when I read them, haha.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by abm89

Drive To Survive (Netflix)

All of your comments sound sensationalized when I read them, haha.

Interesting as I have never seen of this show.

[Hotrodz]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

Interesting as I have never seen of this show.

Total hype, but good entertainment!

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[Hotrodz]

It is very obvious Max is the darling child and Lewis is the champion many are tiered of. It does not matter where he places his car the critics will say it's his fault. Max constantly forces his rivals wide as he did Lewis again in this race. Lewis bailed because he had no place to go. So he doesn't drive aggressively enough in this circumstance according to others and he criticized for leaving Max a sucker hole. I am amazed again that Max supporters are like, what did you expect Max to do but go for it. LMAO, what happened to no wrecking your multimillion dollar car and winning the championships? At his skill level, you are telling me he can't judge time and distance? In the Silverstone incident people made the observation that Lewis had no chance of making the apex and therefore it was his fault. Well, he was spot on the apex in this situation and when Max forced him wide he missed the apex totally. I guess all things are not equal!

The bottom line, RB should be so far in front of MB to claim the championships already. MB all but conceded the championships to them this year knowing RB had superior car. What happened to the cries that MB could not stand up to RB in equal cars. MB may not win the championship but RB has been out classed by better drive and manufacturer.

Oh and let's make another great decision to build their own engine before the next season with all the new regulation changes. Come on McClaren!!!

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[DLSTR]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTxishBB...dium=copy_link

Pobst is a smart racer!

[Hotrodz]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTxishBB...dium=copy_link

Pobst is a smart racer!

Vortex of danger!

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