2021 Formula 1 Thread

[God-Speed]

I got nothing.

[ZCanadian]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

Progress LOL

Ferrari gained less than 0.1 second from extra F1 windtunnel boost
By:
Pablo Elizalde
Co-author:
Jonathan Noble
Aug 20, 2021, 10:11 AM
Ferrari gained less than a tenth of a second from having extra time to develop its 2021 Formula 1 car in the windtunnel, according to team boss Mattia Binotto.

"Aerodynamics are for those who cannot build engines." (Enzo Ferrari)
- just thought that was appropriate here, LOL

But I am curious to see the engine upgrade package that Ferrari said they were bringing to Spa. They are going to need to take a lot of tenths of a second off at that circuit, if they want to make a meaningful push up the mid-field.

[ZCanadian]

How about this.
Read to the last paragraph, before making up your mind if just speculation.

https://racer.com/2021/08/20/andrett...team-takeover/


The United States could have another team in Formula 1 if the efforts of a former driver prove to be successful.

RACER has learned Andretti Autosport team owner Michael Andretti has been actively pursuing an F1 team to acquire, with multiple sources pointing towards the 1993 McLaren F1 pilot being in discussions with representatives from more than one team, including Haas F1’s Gene Haas.

It’s understood the Haas conversation did not move beyond a basic outreach, which led to Andretti seeking another target in the F1 paddock. After Haas F1, it’s believed the two teams owned by investment firms – Alfa Romeo Sauber, which was sold to Longbow Finance S.A. in 2016, and Williams Grand Prix Engineering, which was bought by Dorilton Capital in 2020 – stand as the best options available for the 1991 CART IndyCar Series champion.

“It would be great, but there’s a long way to go if it were to happen,” Andretti told RACER. “If the right opportunity comes up, we’ll be all over it. But we’re not there yet.”

Haas has the obvious American link, but it has a close partnership with Ferrari, while Williams is a Mercedes customer – something it has in common with Zak Brown’s McLaren. Brown and Andretti are partners in other racing categories, having teamed up in Supercars, Australian GT and Extreme E. Independent of the McLaren CEO, Andretti fields a four-car IndyCar program, a two-car effort in Formula E, a four-car Indy Lights team and has an LMP3 entry in IMSA’s WeatherTech Sports Car Championship.

Alfa Romeo recently extended its title sponsorship in a deal that will have “yearly assessments”, but the F1 team is still run by Sauber Motorsport, based around a less-close partnership with Ferrari than Haas. The location of the Swiss-based team adds a further level of complexity to any deal, but it has an impressive windtunnel facility and a romantic link from Andretti’s point of view, as his father Mario drove for Alfa Romeo in F1 in 1981, as well as two separate stints with Ferrari.

Purchasing an existing F1 team – or at least a stake in one – is a far more economical approach since the signing of the latest Concorde Agreement in 2020 that introduced a $200 million buy-in fee for any new entrants. That fee would be split between the existing teams who would be losing a percentage of revenues as a result, but it had the impact of driving up the value of the 10 teams currently on the grid.

In March, a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission by the new Andretti Acquisitions Corporation was revealed. In the document, AAC declared its goal of taking the company public in order to raise $250 million on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol WNNR (winner).

[Spooler]

Food for thought...

[DLSTR]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/58317949

Excellent preview for the remainder of the season

[ZCanadian]

Originally Posted by Spooler

Food for thought...

Wish he had used real video instead of the simulation.

And the advice not to hit what you can see kind of goes both ways. He's blaming Verstappen solely, whereas the stewards blamed Lewis. So although he has a valid point from another racer's view, I'm not sure he's running with enough information here.


In other news, Perez will be back with RBR in 2022. Not sure why it took them this long to get here, and haven't seen any word as to whether or not this is a multi year deal, but at least the knives are back in their sheaths for now.

Sounds like there is a bump that has developed at Radillion / Eau Rouge after the two incidents of flooding at Spa this year. That might add some drama, but will probably take away from the speed with which this corner is taken.

[Hotrodz]

I think the biggest thing regardless of who was more at fault more, Max could have back out and gave up the place. He instead was only thinking about the present and risk over reward. He still would have finished no less than third and maybe he would have won. Hamilton would probably received a penalty anyway. Learning moment and I am sure he has been coached plenty.

This weekend is looking to not disappoint!

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[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by Hotrodz

I think the biggest thing regardless of who was more at fault more, Max could have back out and gave up the place. He instead was only thinking about the present and risk over reward. He still would have finished no less than third and maybe he would have won. Hamilton would probably received a penalty anyway. Learning moment and I am sure he has been coached plenty.

This weekend is looking to not disappoint!

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Well he and Sergio will need new PU's at some point and take penalties. Not thinking like a champion is Max. If he wins it, its not by smarts at all. He has never driven for a title in F1. He has driven to chase other drivers, odd pole and win. He is learning slow.

[Spooler]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Wish he had used real video instead of the simulation.

And the advice not to hit what you can see kind of goes both ways. He's blaming Verstappen solely, whereas the stewards blamed Lewis. So although he has a valid point from another racer's view, I'm not sure he's running with enough information here.


In other news, Perez will be back with RBR in 2022. Not sure why it took them this long to get here, and haven't seen any word as to whether or not this is a multi year deal, but at least the knives are back in their sheaths for now.

Sounds like there is a bump that has developed at Radillion / Eau Rouge after the two incidents of flooding at Spa this year. That might add some drama, but will probably take away from the speed with which this corner is taken.

At the end of the day Verstappen lost and Hamilton won. I would say Randy was right.

[Hotrodz]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

Well he and Sergio will need new PU's at some point and take penalties. Not thinking like a champion is Max. If he wins it, its not by smarts at all. He has never driven for a title in F1. He has driven to chase other drivers, odd pole and win. He is learning slow.

Yep, as some one said he is youg and even though he has matured much he still let's his testosterone override his frontal lobe! Norris leads all the young guns in matured.

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[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Yep, as some one said he is youg and even though he has matured much he still let's his testosterone override his frontal lobe! Norris leads all the young guns in matured.

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Norris is superb - Take him over Russell. He is carrying Mclaren well!

[Hotrodz]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

Norris is superb - Take him over Russell. He is carrying Mclaren well!

Agreed!!!

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[Ventruck]

Not big on how unsafe wet Spa can be, but this sounds exciting. Great QP for George, would've been amazing if he put that Williams at pole, but I'm also for Maximum Verstappen clawing back into the championship battle.

[DLSTR]

Exciting qualy with the rain. Expect surprises tomorrow yes!!!

[God-Speed]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

Exciting qualy with the rain. Expect surprises tomorrow yes!!!

It's going to be a good one. Especially the start!!