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Originally Posted by ZCanadian But Red Bull did make the chassis work for the first half of this year. That, and whatever power improvements they may have made, paid off

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Old 08-17-2021, 10:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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But Red Bull did make the chassis work for the first half of this year. That, and whatever power improvements they may have made, paid off for 10 races. Mercedes wasn't the powerhouse that they were in the last two seasons. But for whatever reason (blame the Baku punctures), Pirelli has changed the design and it favours MB again. Not implying that this was intentional, but that is one change that I don't believe can be computer or wind tunnel modelled. And teams are trying to race and develop a whole new car under a cost cap this year.

Saying "make your chassis work" is oversimplifying things. Otherwise, all of the other teams would have been there already last year, with no cost cap to contend with. But nobody other than Mercedes really managed to in over 40 races until this year. IMHO.
The aero rules worked against low rake design. The cost cap and tire issue/redesign were pushed and agree'd by the teams. Yet they will bad mouth all of it lol. It is tiresome. Shut up and compete. Want to win develop now. They know what that means for 22.

I see Mercedes pushing and hoping RedBull throw lots of money to get this 1 title they promised Jos and Max. Its a game. Mercedes are long on the development and have no more updates in development per press yesterday. The real game is who does best next year early on.

For me this title is compromised given new rules next year. Sure Max can win it but its easily spun that real competition was ended due to rules change lol.

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The aero rules worked against low rake design. The cost cap and tire issue/redesign were pushed and agree'd by the teams. Yet they will bad mouth all of it lol. It is tiresome. Shut up and compete. Want to win develop now. They know what that means for 22.

I see Mercedes pushing and hoping RedBull throw lots of money to get this 1 title they promised Jos and Max. Its a game. Mercedes are long on the development and have no more updates in development per press yesterday. The real game is who does best next year early on.

For me this title is compromised given new rules next year. Sure Max can win it but its easily spun that real competition was ended due to rules change lol.

2019/2020 tires seemed to work against high rake designs like RBR and Ferrari, though.
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RB has been chasing ever since the days Vettel. They won four championships and MB was chasing. MB developed a better car along with signing Lewis. RB has been slow to catch up. RB put all their eggs in the Max bucket which caused a riff between the up comer and a proven F1 winner. They lost again when Daniel left. RB problems started a long time ago. The discussion over tires is just a distraction and points out the lack of development and strategy to stay at the tip of the spear by RB. They also made a decision right or wrong to change engine manufacturers which cost them time and money.

I don't believe F1 and the FIA is purposely favoring one team over another otherwise we should all watch WWE (World Wrestling Entertainment).

This is their best chance to stop MB string of championships and for Max to win his first title. They have the superior car and the second best driver in the world and they are still whining about MB. To me it just shows how far behind the 8 ball they are.



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RB has been chasing ever since the days Vettel. They won four championships and MB was chasing. MB developed a better car along with signing Lewis. RB has been slow to catch up. RB put all their eggs in the Max bucket which caused a riff between the up comer and a proven F1 winner. They lost again when Daniel left. RB problems started a long time ago. The discussion over tires is just a distraction and points out the lack of development and strategy to stay at the tip of the spear by RB. They also made a decision right or wrong to change engine manufacturers which cost them time and money.

I don't believe F1 and the FIA is purposely favoring one team over another otherwise we should all watch WWE (World Wrestling Entertainment).

This is their best chance to stop MB string of championships and for Max to win his first title. They have the superior car and the second best driver in the world and they are still whining about MB. To me it just shows how far behind the 8 ball they are.



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They seem so unfocused in the past years. Make no friends and crap on Renault. They lack any tact or grace. Im happy we have competition but RedBull management are toxic. Max is just as bad being raised by a tool such as Jos. If he wins thats nice.

I think he will have very difficult times to match anyone like MS or LH. He lacks an appeal and any character. Rather boring to be honest he is to me. He is predictable on the track, weaves, uses the full limit but lacks a creative flow overall. He literally will risk the entire car and team's effort in one circumstance vs the larger picture. His lack of tact and the inability to UN-FOCUS on the now hurts him in my book.

His father's influence over him and the team is obvious. Enabled easily by Horner and the idiot Marko. Their efforts after UK GP were world class idiocy. As if no other had ever hit them ever lol. Ricci left for good reason. He has been very public about that BS there after his Baku mess Max caused. The team failed to move Max over and Ricci warned them it would end badly. Yea Max is just amazing.

Frankly - over rated in certain categories - like big picture thinking, maximizing results in the face of issues and maybe talking less and driving more.

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They seem so unfocused in the past years. Make no friends and crap on Renault. They lack any tact or grace. Im happy we have competition but RedBull management are toxic. Max is just as bad being raised by a tool such as Jos. If he wins thats nice.



I think he will have very difficult times to match anyone like MS or LH. He lacks an appeal and any character. Rather boring to be honest he is to me. He is predictable on the track, weaves, uses the full limit but lacks a creative flow overall. He literally will risk the entire car and team's effort in one circumstance vs the larger picture. His lack of tact and the ability to UN-FOCUS on the now hurts him in my book.



His father's influence over him and the team is obvious. Enabled easily by Horner and the idiot Marko. Their efforts after UK GP were world class idiocy. As if no other had ever hit them ever lol. Ricci left for good reason. He has been very public about that BS there after his Baku mess Max caused. The team failed to move Max over and Ricci warned them it would end badly. Yea Max is just amazing.



Frankly - over rated in certain categories - like big picture thinking, maximizing results in the face of issues and maybe talking less and driving more.
I couldn't agree more!

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They seem so unfocused in the past years. Make no friends and crap on Renault. They lack any tact or grace. Im happy we have competition but RedBull management are toxic. Max is just as bad being raised by a tool such as Jos. If he wins thats nice.

I think he will have very difficult times to match anyone like MS or LH. He lacks an appeal and any character. Rather boring to be honest he is to me. He is predictable on the track, weaves, uses the full limit but lacks a creative flow overall. He literally will risk the entire car and team's effort in one circumstance vs the larger picture. His lack of tact and the inability to UN-FOCUS on the now hurts him in my book.

His father's influence over him and the team is obvious. Enabled easily by Horner and the idiot Marko. Their efforts after UK GP were world class idiocy. As if no other had ever hit them ever lol. Ricci left for good reason. He has been very public about that BS there after his Baku mess Max caused. The team failed to move Max over and Ricci warned them it would end badly. Yea Max is just amazing.

Frankly - over rated in certain categories - like big picture thinking, maximizing results in the face of issues and maybe talking less and driving more.
Although I agree with the idea, and especially the colossal incompetence at Red Bull, keep in mind that Max is barely out of diapers really. What is he, 23? You and I were still making bad choices about what courses to take at university at that age. He's responsible for million dollar decisions at 300km/hr, and the face of a huge organization. I think that he has matured tremendously over the past three seasons both as a driver and as an adult. For sure, he is still being manipulated (and probably prevented from seeing "the big picture". I cannot really fault him much for the things he has said. Horner, is another story. And Marko, well, he's off on some other planet altogether.
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