2021 Formula 1 Thread

[Hotrodz]

I love the hype! Randy Probst posted on Instagram that it was a racing incident. He stated his own preamble that you don't hit what you see! The picture he posted was of Max's car and you could see Lewis car in his rear view mirror. Even being a Hamilton fan boy I can agree that he owns better than 50% of the fault. Some say he did not lift or turn in at all. That is not true as you can see him put input into turning but the car understeered. Max knew he was there and still turn in knowingly and he should not have expected Hamilton to give up the corner. Even if he lifted and gave up the position Lewis most likely would have received a penalty and Max would have remained the lead. Lesson learned. Obviously he didn't heed the words of Ricky Bobby's dad...it okay to be second, third or fourth, you got to finish if you want to win a championship!

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[Hotrodz]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

A known 'pure racer' speaks on the sad racing incident and Max stupidity!



In the words of very respected racing driver Randy Pobst:



“Clean pass attempt by Hamilton. Verstappen saw him (Or dang well should have!) and turned in anyway, causing the contact. Hamilton actually backed off trying to avoid him. I had the exact incident in my very first pro win, in Volkswagen Cup St Petersburg, FL, 1985. I got into his vision in the brake zone, but the driver turned in , reactively. Too late, sorry, the car is already there, and you have seen it. You must now leave a lane; racing room. This is utterly clear to me. Racing is about vision. Who can see whom. Don’t hit what you can see! (Yeah, that car in your peripheral vision right when you were just about to turn in)”

LMAO, you stole my thunder. You posted as I was writing!

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[DLSTR]

Yesterday--Red Bull: New evidence will put Silverstone F1 crash in ‘slightly different light’

Now - FIA rejects Red Bull's review of Hamilton's British GP penalty

Red Bull’s hopes of getting the FIA to review Lewis Hamilton’s British Grand Prix penalty have been dashed, after Formula 1 stewards rejected its request on Thursday.


Light - completely in the dark are the RedBull Management. P A T H E T I C!

[danegrey]

Funny Q3 qualifying, there are going to be lots of screams from RB.
MB made it out first for the last lap and Hamilton, went as slow as was allow with MAX behind him....

Be prepare for some fireworks

Also of interest MB front roll on meduims RB 2nd roll on softs
Max had to use softs to get into Q3..

will be very interesting on Sunday

[abm89]

LOL Q3

Well played by Merc in the pitlane. 100% legal gamesmanship.

[God-Speed]

Tomorrow, Let the fun begin!!

[DLSTR]

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ha...3-lap/6639892/

Hamilton rebuffs 'gamesmanship' accusation on slow Hungary Q3 lap
By:
Alex Kalinauckas
Co-author:
Christian Nimmervoll
Jul 31, 2021, 11:59 AM
Lewis Hamilton says suggestions he deliberately held up the Red Bull drivers late Formula 1 qualifying at Budapest are “so silly” and insists he does not deploy gamesmanship “tactics”.
Hamilton rebuffs 'gamesmanship' accusation on slow Hungary Q3 lap

Provisional polesitter Hamilton led Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez around ahead of the final runs in Q3 – behind his team-mate Valtteri Bottas, who ended up qualifying second to Hamilton – where both Mercedes drivers appeared to drive slower than might have been expected.

Hamilton ran very slowly through the pitlane once Verstappen had been released into his wake, while Bottas backing off ahead of the final turns meant Verstappen only just made it through to start a second Q3 run. Perez missed out but remained fourth after the final runs, where none of the top four positions changed to ensure Hamilton of pole.

Red Bull team boss Christian Horner described the events as “a bit of gamesmanship” that was Hamilton’s “right to do” in comments to Sky Sports F1 immediately after qualifying finished at the Hungaroring.


But the world champion explained that tactics had not been a factor, and Mercedes was merely trying to leave a gap in anticipation of the Q3 runners up ahead approaching the final turns of their respective warm-up laps at slow speed, as is typical at Budapest to try and preserve tyre life for flying laps.

When asked by Autosport about Horner’s comments, as well as a Tweet by former F1 driver Romain Grosjean apparently in reference to Q3 which read “If that was made on purpose, it’s not pretty...”, Hamilton replied: “I mean, it’s so silly man.

“Everyone was going slow – did you not watch everybody else? I don’t understand. Do you think I could’ve gone quicker and then been just closer to Valtteri?

“I mean, everyone was doing a slow out-lap. It was no different, really, to any other lap.

“Of course, each time we’re going out we’re trying to prepare the tyres and keep them cooler because they get so hot throughout the lap.

“I weren’t playing any tactics. I don’t need to play no tactics, man. I know what I’m doing in the car and it’s fast enough, we don’t need to add tactics.

“So, those that are making the comments really don’t clearly know anything about the job that we’re doing here, which is probably why they’re not driving here.”

A Mercedes Tweet clarified: "Lewis' final Q3 outlap was faster than his previous outlap, and middle of the range overall through quali. He did a couple quicker and a couple slower."

Explaining his slow driving in the pitlane and pit exit, Hamilton said: “We were one of the last of the cars out.

“I knew that ahead of those guys, ahead of Valtteri and whoever was ahead of him, would all bunch up towards the end of the lap, so I tried to make as big a gap as possible.

“And then even still with that at the end of the lap we still had to pull back off and wait for everyone to get going.

“So, [I was] just trying to make sure that I had the best gap ahead of me. But, ultimately, I think now of us probably had the best tyre prep for that lap because everyone was going slow.”

Hamilton also suggested that his final warm-up lap “definitely wasn’t perfect”, as his subsequent flying lap ended up being 2.335s slower than the “beautiful” lap he had produced at the start of Q3 that was ultimately good enough for pole.

“Right towards the end [of the final Q3 warm-up lap I] just probably lost too much temperature in the tyres – in the fronts,” he said.

“So yeah, at the start of the lap just wasn’t great and it didn’t really seem to get better later on through the lap. But I’m really grateful the team worked so hard to get the car where it is today.”

[Ventruck]

I think the Q3 pit lane was fair play.

Crazy that Maximum Verstappen has this pace after a 51G impact the other week. Hope he makes this a race.

[abm89]

RB is on the wrong tires to start the race, and Max keeps getting terminal understeer on the medium compound. This one is AMG's to lose.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by abm89

RB is on the wrong tires to start the race, and Max keeps getting terminal understeer on the medium compound. This one is AMG's to lose.

RB used the soft to hide pace/balance issues with Max. Perez is out to lunch it appears. He is normally better in the race.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by Ventruck

I think the Q3 pit lane was fair play.

Crazy that Maximum Verstappen has this pace after a 51G impact the other week. Hope he makes this a race.

RedBull were asleep for Q3 and timing. If you want to win a world title you dont mess that up after 10 races.

[Hotrodz]

RB is behind the curve so bad in team management vs MB. They shouldn't be struggling to beat MB with a superior car which was always there excuse and claim that Max is a better driver than Lewis. LMAO, they are struggling to keep up with 2021 car vs MB 2020 which not much different than the 2019.

RB just needs to shut up and drive! Even Rihanna knows that. LMAO!!!

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[abm89]

Lol Fernando was awesome! Some hard defending but nothing too sketch IMO.

[abm89]

I also missed the start. Apparently Bottas yeeted a third of the grid?!

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by abm89

Lol Fernando was awesome! Some hard defending but nothing too sketch IMO.

He provided Max and the rest of the grid the UTTER RACING Standard today. Learn!!