2021 Formula 1 Thread

[danegrey]

NOT F1 Related
Romain Grosjean took pole position for the indy road race this weekend

[Hotrodz]

Originally Posted by danegrey

NOT F1 Related
Romain Grosjean took pole position for the indy road race this weekend

As he should LMAO!

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[Hotrodz]

Originally Posted by danegrey

more interesting is what happens to Russell, if he does not land with MB for next year.
who option is it at Williams, for him to stay there?
Russell to Aston Martin -- hmmm, probably not...
not to McLaren either....

Yes, he has his moments, but we all did when we were young. (23 is still young).

Ocon, don't think he'll go back to MB...

Russell is in tough spot. Being in a back marker car and trying to get noticed. There are equally good young drivers out there his age and younger. Gasley and don't kick me in the nuts but even Stroll gets the job done! Schumacher is is improving steadily and is showing some good race craft.

Just putting it out there for chits and giggles, do you think Lance Stoll would leave Austin Martin to go MB? To be honest his driving style is a lot like Bottas IMHO, not very flashy but effective.

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Russell is in tough spot. Being in a back marker car and trying to get noticed. There are equally good young drivers out there his age and younger. Gasley and don't kick me in the nuts but even Stroll gets the job done! Schumacher is is improving steadily and is showing some good race craft.

Just putting it out there for chits and giggles, do you think Lance Stoll would leave Austin Martin to go MB? To be honest his driving style is a lot like Bottas IMHO, not very flashy but effective.

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Speaking of nuts. Daddy Stroll has junior's nuts in a jar. He'$ nut going anywhere. TW would take GR before junior.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by danegrey

more interesting is what happens to Russell, if he does not land with MB for next year.
who option is it at Williams, for him to stay there?
Russell to Aston Martin -- hmmm, probably not...
not to McLaren either....

Yes, he has his moments, but we all did when we were young. (23 is still young).

Ocon, don't think he'll go back to MB...

I think Toto supports Russell but also letting him know his placement or seat at Mercedes in the future is not a certainty. There are lots of good drivers to choose from. Toto is not in a hurry now as LH says he wants a multi-year deal.

Toto can choose the replacement for Bottas if there is one, no driver turns him down and Id take Norris. All the positives of George and so far none of the garbage George shows.

He is so much like Vettel - immediate blame rather than not talking etc. Poor headwork and he is not at all a rookie now. I actually think he did some damage no matter what he says. He is not a rookie anymore. I do not sense a good team leader either.

Norris is maturing so quickly and with such savvy for his age. Equally as fast. I see him as equal to Charles in fact.

Toto see's how well he is doing vs Ricci at Mclaren. Norris has done well in the team and comes out, or across as actually leading the team a bit now.

[DLSTR]

Monaco next weekend!

Mclaren in a special Gulf Oil livery for this race!

[DLSTR]

What Monaco GP clues can we get from Spain's Sector 3 data
By: Jonathan Noble
May 17, 2021, 4:52 AM

TThe unique tight and twisty nature of Formula 1's Monaco Grand Prix often makes it a pretty tricky track to try to predict form.

It requires the maximum amount of downforce, a well-handing chassis, excellent traction and being good on the brakes.

And, whereas at other tracks, aero efficiency can be the name of the game as teams trim out downforce levels, at Monaco that does not matter. Power too isn't critical.

All these factors mean the competitive order can be very different at Monaco compared to other venues, which adds another layer of intrigue for F1's blue riband event.

But each year, there is one clue offered about how things are going to shape up.

It's the performance of cars through Sector 3 at the Barcelona circuit, for the low speed sequence of bends and the tight chicane pretty much mirror the demands of the streets of Monaco.

If you are quick through Sector 3 in Spain, then that's normally a pretty good sign.


So how did things stack up at the recent Spanish GP? Here's the fastest Sector 3 times for each car in qualifying.

1. Red Bull 26.295s
2. Mercedes 26.400s
3. Ferrari 26.580s
4. Alpine 26.632s
5. McLaren 26.782s
6. AlphaTauri 26.827s
7. Aston Martin 26.923s
8. Williams 27.131s
9. Alfa Romeo 27.164s
10. Haas 27.311s

For Red Bull, after two races where it has lost out to Mercedes, the prospects look good with its car the fastest through S3.

Sergio Perez is certainly bullish about what could be on the cards for the RB16B around the streets of Monte Carlo.

"I'm looking forward massively to Monaco, especially with this car," said the Mexican. "I think we have a shot of winning the race."



Mercedes also thinks that things are tipped in Red Bull's favour, especially as it appears its Milton Keynes rival has a downforce advantage.

Trackside engineering director Andrew Shovlin said: "On paper, I would probably say it would suit Red Bull more than us.

"We've been running our max downforce wing and we saw it on their car on Friday [in Spain] but they didn't race it there, so they can put a bit more downforce on. So on paper, it's probably for them."

The fight behind the top two also looks intriguing, with early season 'best of the rest' contender McLaren not appearing as comfortable in the low speed sector as Ferrari and Alpine.

Ferrari's Carlos Sainz Jr reckons it was certainly a good boost for the Maranello team that they looked so strong in S3.

"Obviously having good downforce in the last sector gives you a good feeling and it puts you in a good state of mind going to Monaco because, for sure, you prefer to be quick in sector three in Barcelona," he said.

"But at the same time, Monaco then has a lot of specifics with car set-up, and tyre preparation for qualifying. The cars are so different in Monaco that it could change a bit the picture."


McLaren certainly thinks the picture is not defined, and believes that there is scope for the competitive picture to change once the downforce is whacked on this weekend.

Lando Norris said: "The big difference between Monaco and sector three in Spain is obviously we run the set-up very different in Spain.

"It's a lot more focused to sector one and sector two, with the high speed turns. And it is quite the opposite in Monaco where there is a lot more low speed. We also run a lot softer the whole car because of the bumps and everything like that.

"I think the whole characteristic of the car is to change a lot. So it's quite an unexplored territory for this car and so on."

The other ultimate truth of Monaco is that it's a weekend where drivers being error free, not hitting traffic in qualifying, a well timed safety car and not being hit by bad luck can often be just as important in the fight for wins as having a good car.

As Shovlin says: "Even if you go there with the best car and you've got a great package, it's still an awfully difficult race to win."

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/wh...-data/6510251/

[DLSTR]

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/br...time-/6510296/

Brown: Hamilton and Verstappen crash is a "matter of time"
By:
Jonathan Noble
May 17, 2021, 6:50 AM
McLaren CEO Zak Brown thinks it is only a matter of time before Formula 1 title rivals Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen clash on track.
Brown: Hamilton and Verstappen crash is a "matter of time"

Hamilton and Verstappen are locked in a tight battle for the world championship and, despite having overtaken each other at every race this season, they have managed to keep things clean so far.

But Brown thinks that the intensity of their rivalry makes it inevitable that at some point there will be a controversial coming together between them.

“I think rivalries are great for the sport and having those two guys go at it is good,” said Brown, speaking at the launch of McLaren’s Gulf livery for the Monaco Grand Prix.

“Hopefully, at some point over the course a year, that creates an opportunity for us, because I think it is just a matter of time until they both are determined to not let up in to Turn 1 and neither come out.”

Brown thinks that the head-to-head between Hamilton and Verstappen is a huge positive for F1, and has helped the sport see the best of both drivers.

PLUS: How long can F1 2021's brewing title battle stay clean?

“I think it's great for F1,” said Brown. “Lewis has had a pretty easy ride out, apart from his one year with Nico [Rosberg].

“So I think it's a great rivalry. I think Max has gotten Lewis to step up, not that he's needed much stepping up. But he's definitely on his A game.

“I think it's clear that Lewis is a very smart driver. You can just see him sitting there waiting to strike and isn't kind of over eager. I think that's his experience coming through.”

McLaren driver Lando Norris says the close battles between Hamilton and Verstappen have been fun to watch – and offer an interesting view in to the different approaches from both drivers.

“Max goes for those opportunities, like Turn 1 [in Spain],” said Norris. “It was quite a risky thing.

“If Lewis had turned in, they would have crashed. So Max was pretty committed with his move. But they are the opportunities Max needs to take at this stage because they [Red Bull] are a bit slower.

“But it's also what makes it fun, because then Lewis has to come back through and try to get past him. So it's fun.”

[God-Speed]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/br...time-/6510296/

Brown: Hamilton and Verstappen crash is a "matter of time"
By:
Jonathan Noble
May 17, 2021, 6:50 AM
McLaren CEO Zak Brown thinks it is only a matter of time before Formula 1 title rivals Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen clash on track.
Brown: Hamilton and Verstappen crash is a "matter of time"

Hamilton and Verstappen are locked in a tight battle for the world championship and, despite having overtaken each other at every race this season, they have managed to keep things clean so far.

But Brown thinks that the intensity of their rivalry makes it inevitable that at some point there will be a controversial coming together between them.

“I think rivalries are great for the sport and having those two guys go at it is good,” said Brown, speaking at the launch of McLaren’s Gulf livery for the Monaco Grand Prix.

“Hopefully, at some point over the course a year, that creates an opportunity for us, because I think it is just a matter of time until they both are determined to not let up in to Turn 1 and neither come out.”

Brown thinks that the head-to-head between Hamilton and Verstappen is a huge positive for F1, and has helped the sport see the best of both drivers.

PLUS: How long can F1 2021's brewing title battle stay clean?

“I think it's great for F1,” said Brown. “Lewis has had a pretty easy ride out, apart from his one year with Nico [Rosberg].

“So I think it's a great rivalry. I think Max has gotten Lewis to step up, not that he's needed much stepping up. But he's definitely on his A game.

“I think it's clear that Lewis is a very smart driver. You can just see him sitting there waiting to strike and isn't kind of over eager. I think that's his experience coming through.”

McLaren driver Lando Norris says the close battles between Hamilton and Verstappen have been fun to watch – and offer an interesting view in to the different approaches from both drivers.

“Max goes for those opportunities, like Turn 1 [in Spain],” said Norris. “It was quite a risky thing.

“If Lewis had turned in, they would have crashed. So Max was pretty committed with his move. But they are the opportunities Max needs to take at this stage because they [Red Bull] are a bit slower.

“But it's also what makes it fun, because then Lewis has to come back through and try to get past him. So it's fun.”

It's going to happen. It's just a matter of time.

[DLSTR]

Mclaren team poster Monaco 2021 and 71 Mclaren car in race.

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Ferrari Monaco 2021 poster

[DLSTR]

Setting up for the race!

[DLSTR]

All set up! Remember Practice in Monaco is on a Thursday for Prac 1 and 2.

[DLSTR]

--Lando Norris has committed his future to McLaren by signing a new multi-year contract extension with the Formula 1 team.--

Norris, 21, made his F1 debut with McLaren in 2019, and has since scored two podium finishes for the team, the most recent coming at the Emilia Romagna Grand Prix in April.

The British youngster’s McLaren contract was due to expire at the end of the year, but the team announced on Wednesday ahead of the Monaco Grand Prix that a new multi-year deal had been secured.

The deal will see Norris remain with McLaren for “2022 and beyond”, firming up the team’s line-up for the next two seasons.

Norris was joined by seven-time grand prix winner Daniel Ricciardo for the 2021 season, with the Australian’s contract running to the end of the 2023 campaign.

“I’m really pleased to have extended my relationship with McLaren from 2022,” said Norris. “Having been with the team for almost five years, I feel very much part of the family here and I couldn’t imagine starting the next phase of my career anywhere else. McLaren has been a huge support since my days in junior series and I’ve really enjoyed learning and developing as a driver since.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/no...laren/6511221/

[ZCanadian]

Originally Posted by DLSTR

--Lando Norris has committed his future to McLaren by signing a new multi-year contract extension with the Formula 1 team.--

Norris, 21, made his F1 debut with McLaren in 2019, and has since scored two podium finishes for the team, the most recent coming at the Emilia Romagna Grand Prix in April.

The British youngster’s McLaren contract was due to expire at the end of the year, but the team announced on Wednesday ahead of the Monaco Grand Prix that a new multi-year deal had been secured.

The deal will see Norris remain with McLaren for “2022 and beyond”, firming up the team’s line-up for the next two seasons.

Norris was joined by seven-time grand prix winner Daniel Ricciardo for the 2021 season, with the Australian’s contract running to the end of the 2023 campaign.

“I’m really pleased to have extended my relationship with McLaren from 2022,” said Norris. “Having been with the team for almost five years, I feel very much part of the family here and I couldn’t imagine starting the next phase of my career anywhere else. McLaren has been a huge support since my days in junior series and I’ve really enjoyed learning and developing as a driver since.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/no...laren/6511221/

Now, all they need is to keep the company alive that long. No small feat.
Oh, and keep up the development of the car.
2022 is going to be a whole new ball game. I hope!