2021 Formula 1 Thread

[Ventruck]

Originally Posted by Averying

Ignoring the lap 1 incident… to me it comes down to the fact that Mercedes did not prepare Lewis for a safety car towards the end the race. Lapped cars always end up unlapping themselves under a safety car, which is what happened today.

Should the FIA have made the decision to unlap the cars from the start of the safety car? Yes. Really not sure why they made this call so late.

Did the lapped cars not being allowed to originally unlap themselves affect MB decision to stay out on the hard tires? I’m not sure.

Yes Lewis was the faster driver today, and sure Red Bull needed 100 things to fall into place for max to end up in the perfect situation with 1 lap to go, but I still think MB made some wrong calls regarding tire strategies which led to Lewis being unprepared for a safety car. MB, with their lead at the time, could have easily reacted to Max’s pit stop after the Giovinazzi incident, resulting in Lewis having newer tires just like Max.

So in summary… the FIA needs to have more set-in-stone rules that follow a predetermined procedure, MB screwed up a tire decision, and RB got lucky with how the race unfolded in their hands, despite Lewis clearly being the faster car today.


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Pretty much how I see it. FIA was sloppy with this, and season, and in the end Lewis and Max never really dropped the ball when it came to driving.

Sure enough Toto will Toto because that's his job, but I think even Lewis can just accept this and look to next year to take over. A lot of these events were atypical so he knows he's not declining unless the car absolutely lets him down.

Congratulations to Max. A lot of titles don't come on the exact or more "legitimate" terms, but what it took to be in contention, all he could do was seize his opportunities, and he did. End of the day, he did his job and not everyone could've executed this with the same circumstances.

[Spooler]

It was a sucky ending to the season. Controversial at beast. Enough said. The whole year has been the same.

[God-Speed]

Enough said!!

[Hotrodz]

It is a shame, that F1 new owners are about entertainment over racing! F1 is now fully a sports entertainment business!

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[God-Speed]

Originally Posted by Hotrodz

It is a shame, that F1 new owners are about entertainment over racing! F1 is now fully a sports entertainment business!

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The next 90 days should be interesting.

[cooltoy]

I have no words.

[Hotrodz]

A win is a win! In officiating, one should strive not to be the determining factor in who win or losses!!! Except if you want to make Netflix richer!

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[DLSTR]

The so called "Race Director"

[ZCanadian]

Still rather that the championship was decided on a flying lap than under an extended safety car.

If I were Masi, I'd have let Toto and Christian's calls go to voicemail, though. Last thing he needed was to deal with those two whiners while trying to figure out how to clear the track.

Lewis' race was compromised from the moment they called him in way too early to cover Max's pit stop (lap 14). Being in the lead at the SC, Mercedes had little choice but to leave him out, while Max got the soft tires and wing adjustment he needed to be competitive. I can see why Merc felt confident in staying the course, with the odds being that the race would either end under a waved yellow or that racing would resume with one or two laps to go and lapped cars between the two leaders.

The rule to clear the lapped cars is to allow for racing between the leading cars, and un-lapping these four or five and then ending the SC although not directly handing the trophy to Max, gave him that one last opportunity to take it.

That final lap, and Perez' crazy mad dogfight with Lewis on tires way to old to have done what he did (20 lap old reds), made this the best race of the season for me. Even if there were about 55 laps of snore-fest in between it all.

[Spooler]

Max had a streak of good luck. Lewis had him covered all race. That is part of racing. Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good. On to next season.

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Perez' crazy mad dogfight with Lewis on tires way to old to have done what he did (20 lap old reds)

Phenomenal driving. I was laughing at Lewis for whining about it.

As far as Max and Lewis go, I enjoyed watching them race this year but it's never a good thing for anyone when the refs have a role in determining the outcome. And Lewis damn near won despite his team sabotaging him.

It will be very interesting to see where things fall into place next year.

[Hotrodz]

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Still rather that the championship was decided on a flying lap than under an extended safety car.

If I were Masi, I'd have let Toto and Christian's calls go to voicemail, though. Last thing he needed was to deal with those two whiners while trying to figure out how to clear the track.

Lewis' race was compromised from the moment they called him in way too early to cover Max's pit stop (lap 14). Being in the lead at the SC, Mercedes had little choice but to leave him out, while Max got the soft tires and wing adjustment he needed to be competitive. I can see why Merc felt confident in staying the course, with the odds being that the race would either end under a waved yellow or that racing would resume with one or two laps to go and lapped cars between the two leaders.

The rule to clear the lapped cars is to allow for racing between the leading cars, and un-lapping these four or five and then ending the SC although not directly handing the trophy to Max, gave him that one last opportunity to take it.

That final lap, and Perez' crazy mad dogfight with Lewis on tires way to old to have done what he did (20 lap old reds), made this the best race of the season for me. Even if there were about 55 laps of snore-fest in between it all.

LMAO, the only rule that is clear is the race director can do what he wants and he did. A better decision would have been to red flag the event, stopping time and letting the teams change tire equally, do a standing restart for the last three laps. Now that would have been more exciting and there would not have been any controversy. Masi fcked up plain and simple. Max won given the circumstances and that doesn't make him the villain because the dice rolled his way.

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[Ventruck]

Not to laugh at Toto's expense, it is funny when you go (very) selective with the context



> Lap 36:
*safety car*
Toto: "Mikey please no safety car. Interferes in the race. Please not."

> Lap 57:
*safety car pulling out to let them race*
Toto: "No Mikey! Nooo!!!"

[abm89]

I rate Checo extremely high on my list of drivers. He’s always a hard racer but very fair.

[axmea?]

What a year of racing aye? Regardless of who we're rooting for, we were blessed and maxed out on entertainment with the kind of twist and turns one could only dream of. All us racing fans were gifted with the best experience from the start of the season to the very last lap. Thank you Max and Lewis for showing everyone else where the limit is and all the other supporting characters. On the top of my list in the supporting cast is Checo, Lando, and Fernando. Although Valteri came in 3rd in the driver's championship, he was very underwhelming. If there anything I want changed, it would be keeping Toto far away from the kitchen telling the chef what to do and duct tape on Marko's pie hole. Oh yes, FIA....git yer 5h!t together.