2021 Formula 1 Thread

God-Speed · 11-13-2021, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR

He broke FIA code. Clearly states do not touch other competitors cars. He did so after RedBull protested. Stupid boy Let the management sort this. The rule is clear and in the books. Max and probably other drivers should learn the rules of their series.

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Originally Posted by axmea?

Lol. The code is the code. He shouldn't have touched the car. The point I was stating is the insinuation that touching the wing the way he did manipulated or damaged Lewis' wing is absurd. Those wings can handle lots of load. Another page from the same book of tricks used by F1 teams to stir things up. I wouldn't be surprised if he is handed something and less surprised if they take a heavy handed approach.

This has been the Code in all forms of Racing. If you don't own it or drive it, Don't Touch It!!

DLSTR · 11-13-2021, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

Lol. The code is the code. He shouldn't have touched the car. The point I was stating is the insinuation that touching the wing the way he did manipulated or damaged Lewis' wing is absurd. Those wings can handle lots of load. Another page from the same book of tricks used by F1 teams to stir things up. I wouldn't be surprised if he is handed something and less surprised if they take a heavy handed approach.

Max opened the political door by violating printed not negotiable code. He was an idiot lol

DLSTR · 11-13-2021, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by God-Speed

This has been the Code in all forms of Racing. If you don't own it or drive it, Don't Touch It!!

SO true. RedBull had protested the rear wing area and he goes and touches. Toto is saying Danke Max! Nice one lol

axmea? · 11-13-2021, 11:51 AM

In the FIA, you touch, you pay, and it's €50k. There you have it. Fork it out Max.

abm89 · 11-13-2021, 12:13 PM

Ever notice how Seb inspects other cars with his hands behind his back? Learn from the best!

abm89 · 11-13-2021, 12:46 PM

Well, that’s the championship most likely. I have no idea how a wing is in spec before qualifying and then not afterwards, but it is what it is. smh

DLSTR · 11-13-2021, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by abm89

Well, that’s the championship most likely. I have no idea how a wing is in spec before qualifying and then not afterwards, but it is what it is. smh

If no one has touched it other than Max how do you blame Mercedes. Its absurd on the surface. Rules apply but there was no ill intent proven at all.

abm89 · 11-13-2021, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR

If no one has touched it other than Max how do you blame Mercedes. Its absurd on the surface. Rules apply but there was no ill intent proven at all.

I don’t think Max did anything that would cause it to go out of spec. It looked like he was measuring something. the parts are probably fatigued so they may have come out of spec after the session.

Lewis's sprint however, that was truly a sprint! Able to overcome the DRS train!

Ventruck · 11-13-2021, 05:33 PM

The touching fine is a bit stupid, but the rules were so established already that was on Max not paying attention.

Both front runner teams did their jobs today, although Checo came up a tad short of perfect.
Lewis' run was part balls because he still has the keep the car intact for tomorrow, but yeah the performance gap between MB and everyone else who isn't Red Bull is a bit disturbing.

abm89 · 11-13-2021, 06:29 PM

I am 100% for the fine. If the cars are in Parc Ferme, only the driver/team of the car should be allowed to touch it for getting out of the car and cooling it down. It should 100% be enforced, otherwise you will have drivers tampering with rivals’ cars.

DLSTR · 11-13-2021, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by abm89

I am 100% for the fine. If the cars are in Parc Ferme, only the driver/team of the car should be allowed to touch it for getting out of the car and cooling it down. It should 100% be enforced, otherwise you will have drivers tampering with rivals’ cars.

The FIA should have never ignored what was going on in the past. Part of this is clearly in their lane.

DLSTR · 11-13-2021, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by abm89

I don’t think Max did anything that would cause it to go out of spec. It looked like he was measuring something. the parts are probably fatigued so they may have come out of spec after the session.

Lewis's sprint however, that was truly a sprint! Able to overcome the DRS train!

Mercedes: Hamilton’s wing failed tests by just 0.2mm
By:
Jonathan Noble
Nov 13, 2021, 4:43 PM
Mercedes has revealed that Lewis Hamilton’s disqualification from qualifying at Formula 1’s Brazilian Grand Prix was triggered by his DRS failing tests by just 0.2 millimetres.

Spooler · 11-13-2021, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR

Mercedes: Hamilton’s wing failed tests by just 0.2mm
By:
Jonathan Noble
Nov 13, 2021, 4:43 PM
Mercedes has revealed that Lewis Hamilton’s disqualification from qualifying at Formula 1’s Brazilian Grand Prix was triggered by his DRS failing tests by just 0.2 millimetres.

WOW, that wouldn't take much of a touch to cause that.

Spooler · 11-13-2021, 07:44 PM

I hope Hamilton just sends it and puts on one hell of a show. I know I would be pissed and be hell bent on just winning it anyways. I would either win it or crash trying.

abm89 · 11-13-2021, 07:54 PM

He put on a show today in the sprint. It looked like 2007!

11-13-2021, 11:51 AM	#679 (permalink)
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11-13-2021, 12:13 PM	#680 (permalink)
abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,386 Drives: 11 370Z \| 24 EL450 Rep Power: 64763	Ever notice how Seb inspects other cars with his hands behind his back? Learn from the best! DLSTR likes this. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

11-13-2021, 12:46 PM	#681 (permalink)
abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,386 Drives: 11 370Z \| 24 EL450 Rep Power: 64763	Well, that’s the championship most likely. I have no idea how a wing is in spec before qualifying and then not afterwards, but it is what it is. smh God-Speed and DLSTR like this. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

11-13-2021, 06:29 PM	#685 (permalink)
abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,386 Drives: 11 370Z \| 24 EL450 Rep Power: 64763	I am 100% for the fine. If the cars are in Parc Ferme, only the driver/team of the car should be allowed to touch it for getting out of the car and cooling it down. It should 100% be enforced, otherwise you will have drivers tampering with rivals’ cars. DLSTR and Spooler like this. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

11-13-2021, 07:44 PM	#689 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,825 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	I hope Hamilton just sends it and puts on one hell of a show. I know I would be pissed and be hell bent on just winning it anyways. I would either win it or crash trying. Last edited by Spooler; 11-13-2021 at 07:48 PM.

11-13-2021, 05:33 PM	#684 (permalink)
Ventruck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: California Posts: 785 Drives: '13 Sport+Touring M6 Rep Power: 22898	The touching fine is a bit stupid, but the rules were so established already that was on Max not paying attention. Both front runner teams did their jobs today, although Checo came up a tad short of perfect. Lewis' run was part balls because he still has the keep the car intact for tomorrow, but yeah the performance gap between MB and everyone else who isn't Red Bull is a bit disturbing.

11-13-2021, 07:54 PM	#690 (permalink)
abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,386 Drives: 11 370Z \| 24 EL450 Rep Power: 64763	He put on a show today in the sprint. It looked like 2007! Spooler likes this. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

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