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Just wondering if anyone would care (even if there weren't a virus situation) if the Olympics were cancelled? Personally, I would not.

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Old 03-16-2020, 10:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just wondering if anyone would care (even if there weren't a virus situation) if the Olympics were cancelled? Personally, I would not.
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Old 03-16-2020, 11:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd only care because Japan spent a ton on olympic infrastructure at a bad time in their economy. If it's cancelled, that's not going to help.


If you're asking whether I care about the olympics as an event, the answer is no. I'll watch pretty much any sport, so I don't mind the broadcast. But I absolutely do not enjoy the boring pageantry or the ego-boosting medal count aspects of the event.
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It would suck for the athletes for sure. However, given how political and expensive (public funds diverted) it has gotten, I'm turned off by it all and have been for decades.


So no, I wouldn't miss it one bit.
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Given today's announcement, it looks as if the Olympics will at least be postponed. This is shaping up to be quite an Autumn sports carnival as the Masters, PGA Champ, Olympics, Kentucky Derby, NBA, NHL, MLB, ProBass Fishing ... as well as the normal NFL and College Football teams are all planning to be active at the same time.

Time to stop buying TP and start stocking up on wings n beer!!!
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Just wasn't fair to keep it on the schedule when athletes can neither qualify nor train.
Teams cannot practice. Swimming/diving pools are shut. Hard to practice "social distancing" in boxing or wrestling. High performance athletes schedule their training in order to "peak" at the time of major competitions. They cannot just jump on a plane, show up, and give an Olympic performance.

It's a shame for some athletes who might not be able to get back into form a year from now due to finances, age, or injury. I've worked with a few of these, and the drive to make it onto an Olympic (or World Championship) squad is all consuming.

There is no guarantee that a delay to this fall is of any value. Models right now show the virus potentially being a major issue for the next 18 to 24 months before movements can return to normal, regardless of how the contagion is handled. And realistically there will be no hope of a global vaccine to be developed, manufactured and distributed to most of the population in that time. Our best hope would be that an existing drug provides an efficacious treatment, and that the virus takes a break in the heat of summer in the northern hemisphere.
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Or we just accept that we'll all be exposed to it at some point and return to our normal routines knowing that 1% probably wont make it. I mean, it's that, or purposely tank the world economy with ineffective measures to avoid the 1% issue, which I'm sure is unavoidable anyway. Hard choices indeed, but it's time to choose the better of the two evils. Unfortunately, life doesn't always have a Hollywood ending.

We're all gonna die at some point bitches!!!

Ok, enough gloom n doom... rock on dudes!
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Or we just accept that we'll all be exposed to it at some point and return to our normal routines knowing that 1% probably wont make it. I mean, it's that, or purposely tank the world economy with ineffective measures to avoid the 1% issue, which I'm sure is unavoidable anyway. Hard choices indeed, but it's time to choose the better of the two evils. Unfortunately, life doesn't always have a Hollywood ending.

We're all gonna die at some point bitches!!!

Ok, enough gloom n doom... rock on dudes!
A colleague of my wife lives in Hubei province in China.
He reported today that his (very large) city is returning to normal now after 7 weeks of complete lockdown (no going out at all, except one person per household once a week to pick up food from government supply). 7 weeks without even being allowed out to exercise or walk the dog. But it appears that this sacrifice has saved lives in the long run and shortened the pain. It can be done, but isn’t easy, and takes combined commitment for the greater good.

Those pop-up mega hospitals in Wuhan have reportedly all closed.
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A colleague of my wife lives in Hubei province in China.
He reported today that his (very large) city is returning to normal now after 7 weeks of complete lockdown (no going out at all, except one person per household once a week to pick up food from government supply). 7 weeks without even being allowed out to exercise or walk the dog. But it appears that this sacrifice has saved lives in the long run and shortened the pain. It can be done, but isn’t easy, and takes combined commitment for the greater good.

Those pop-up mega hospitals in Wuhan have reportedly all closed.

The virus has not been eradicated. I hope the best for Wuhan, but the virus can easily return. We may have witnessed the first of a series of lockdowns. I hope I'm wrong. Either we find a cure, or we all just have to deal with a new virus among us.
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The virus has not been eradicated. I hope the best for Wuhan, but the virus can easily return. We may have witnessed the first of a series of lockdowns. I hope I'm wrong. Either we find a cure, or we all just have to deal with a new virus among us.
There was a report that despite the number of the infected is going down (supposedly anyway), there is a good chance of a 2nd wave coming.

France needs to hurry up with the malaria vaccine cure, and/or the US needs to get the ball rolling on this too.



And I honestly don't care about olympics, but that's just my opinion.
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There was a report that despite the number of the infected is going down (supposedly anyway), there is a good chance of a 2nd wave coming.

France needs to hurry up with the malaria vaccine cure, and/or the US needs to get the ball rolling on this too.



And I honestly don't care about olympics, but that's just my opinion.
There is already reports coming out of Wuhan of a 2nd wave starting. The Spanish flu lasted a few years. It had a couple of waves to it.
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There is already reports coming out of Wuhan of a 2nd wave starting. The Spanish flu lasted a few years. It had a couple of waves to it.
What really irks me is that we (as a society and world) can send people/machines to the moon and beyond, but we can't figure out how to cure diseases
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What really irks me is that we (as a society and world) can send people/machines to the moon and beyond, but we can't figure out how to cure diseases
Mother nature is hard to figure out.
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The virus has not been eradicated. I hope the best for Wuhan, but the virus can easily return. We may have witnessed the first of a series of lockdowns. I hope I'm wrong. Either we find a cure, or we all just have to deal with a new virus among us.
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There is already reports coming out of Wuhan of a 2nd wave starting. The Spanish flu lasted a few years. It had a couple of waves to it.
Definitely not eradicated. But brought to a point where it can be better controlled.

There might be waves of virus, followed by further periods of isolation to knock it back until a cure or vaccine can be made widely available. But with most now aware of the potential return and taking precautions to limit spread (social distancing, hygene)

Spanish Flu was bad in April and May 1918 and then slowed significantly in the summer only to re-emerge in the fall (October 1918 was the deadliest month).

There is no guarantee that Covid-19 will respond similarly, but it's a useful guide.

Some quick math:
It's said that without limiting social contact, an infected individual will go on to infect on average 3 more people.

Running that scenario out 6 generations of contact, that one person is responsible for making 1,092 others sick.

Social distancing and limiting interactions is supposed to cut the infection rate in half - each person infects only 1.5 others.

After 6 iterations of that, only 31 people have caught the virus.

Major difference!
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Definitely not eradicated. But brought to a point where it can be better controlled.

There might be waves of virus, followed by further periods of isolation to knock it back until a cure or vaccine can be made widely available. But with most now aware of the potential return and taking precautions to limit spread (social distancing, hygene)

Spanish Flu was bad in April and May 2018 and then slowed significantly in the summer only to re-emerge in the fall (October 2018 was the deadliest month).

There is no guarantee that Covid-19 will respond similarly, but it's a useful guide.

Some quick math:
It's said that without limiting social contact, an infected individual will go on to infect on average 3 more people.

Running that scenario out 6 generations of contact, that one person is responsible for making 1,092 others sick.

Social distancing and limiting interactions is supposed to cut the infection rate in half - each person infects only 1.5 others.

After 6 iterations of that, only 31 people have caught the virus.

Major difference!
The numbers i saw was 1 to 14 to start with. Right now, the numbers are doubling every 3.5 days. 100,000 to 200,000, to 400,000, to 800,000. Predicted 1 million by end of the month world wide.
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The numbers i saw was 1 to 14 to start with. Right now, the numbers are doubling every 3.5 days. 100,000 to 200,000, to 400,000, to 800,000. Predicted 1 million by end of the month world wide.
Keep in mind that numbers are increasing more quickly partly because there have finally been intensive efforts to start to identify cases by means of assessment and tests. Not necessarily that the spread is that quick. We’re still behind the total, but have we now identified 10% of the actual number of cases, 20%, or 40%?
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