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danegrey 11-29-2020 08:32 AM

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BAHRAIN GP SUSPENDED AFTER FIERY GROSJEAN CRASH
car was cut in half, not good, Grosjean survived with minor injuries

Front of the car in the barrier, halo, probably saved his life
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ZontheRocks 11-29-2020 09:03 AM

Crazy crash. Halo, medical car being right behind and crew right at the scene of the crash all contributed to saving Grosjean.

New barrier regulations coming into effect soon, I’m sure.

DLSTR 11-29-2020 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3973763)
Crazy crash. Halo, medical car being right behind and crew right at the scene of the crash all contributed to saving Grosjean.

New barrier regulations coming into effect soon, I’m sure.

No car should ever meet steel on a track in F1 now. Soft barrier technology is available. No excuse.

danegrey 11-29-2020 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 3973770)
No car should ever meet steel on a track in F1 now. Soft barrier technology is available. No excuse.

I agree, but racing will never ever be safe, it is when moments like this happens, that cause items to be relooked at. Racing is really unpredictable, when it comes to accidents. With the speed, angles, etc who knows. The wheel to wheel contact of Stroll and Kvyat and Stroll rolls over???

Grosjean, is a reminder of what can happen and how far safety has advance over the years....

death/injury is always there.... You can not get in a car and perform, if that is on your mind....

DLSTR 11-29-2020 02:41 PM

Happy to see this!!

https://twitter.com/autosport/status...32807%2Fpage-9

axmea? 11-29-2020 03:38 PM

It was shocking to see but like the medical staff stated, everything has to work in concert to save a driver's life. I counted 25 seconds from the time of impact to when he jumped out. That's eternity. In a way, that's a good day for RG.

Not a good day for Bottas, Stroll, Perez, and RP. Throw Kvyat on the list.

ltullos 11-29-2020 05:35 PM

I so wish Niki Lauda was still here to see this today. So many things were learned and improved as a result of his tragedy, including having oxygen in the cockpit. It's really incredible that the sport has come so far in safety that this crash and especially the fire was so shocking. It's also a testament to the teams and FIA that all of the preventions worked exactly as they were supposed to when most needed. This could not occur with preparation, practice and continuous focus.

Now, about that track marshal who darted across the track in front of Lando to extinguish Checo's fire is another thing!

DLSTR 11-29-2020 06:46 PM

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...ht-after-crash

Haas confirmed soon after the accident that Grosjean had sustained slight burns to his hands and ankles, and was being taken to hospital with a suspected broken rib.

Haas later confirmed in a statement that all X-rays completed on Grosjean had come back showing no fractures or breaks, and that he would undergo treatment for burns to the back of both hands.

The team also revealed that the impact speed was 221 km/h before the logger on Grosjean's car stopped, converting to 137 mph.

Team boss Steiner gave an update following the race to say that he had spoken with Grosjean and he was in good spirits and confirming the Frenchman would be staying in hospital overnight.

"I just spoke with him on the phone, he's in a clear state of mind, he's good," Steiner said on Sky Sports F1.

"He's still staying in the hospital overnight, they want to keep him there. But he told me and not the doctor, he feels good, it seems nothing is broken.

DLSTR 11-30-2020 05:46 AM

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...-for-sakhir-gp

Pietro Fittipaldi will make his Formula 1 debut this weekend at the Sakhir Grand Prix after Romain Grosjean was ruled out through injury.

Haas F1 driver Grosjean sustained burns to the backs of his hands in a terrifying crash on the opening lap of the Bahrain Grand Prix on Sunday, leaving him in need of treatment in hospital.

Although Grosjean is set to be released from hospital on Tuesday, Haas has confirmed that he is unable to race in the Sakhir Grand Prix this weekend.

As a result, Haas reserve driver Fittipaldi will get the call up to make his F1 debut, replacing Grosjean.

"After it was decided that the best thing for Romain was to skip at least one race, the choice to put Pietro in the car was pretty easy," said Haas F1 team principal Gunther Steiner.

"Pietro will drive the VF-20 and he's familiar with us having been around the team for the past two seasons as a test and reserve driver.

Hotrodz 11-30-2020 08:38 AM

What a race weekend! So happy that Romain is okay and will recover quickly. The barrier thing can be debated as to do all barrier need to soft barrier because the odds of someone crashing were he did is pretty unlikely the other thing is why did the car explode into flames? That is as big a question if not more so than the barriers. To that point none of the comments above mention Alex Albon, he could of as easily been killed or injured in his accident. That corner is pretty dang dangerous if you run wide there.

Me and my brother ran the track on his sims Saturday night. Really a fun track and the hairpin turns are incredibly technical and of the tracks out there is the likely hood of hitting a wall is not nearly as bad as many of the tracks run in F1. Racing is dangerous and despite all the safety precautions the strange and unusual will occur and hopefully those involved walk away with little to no injuries.

JARblue 11-30-2020 09:09 AM

I don't know about you guys, but the finish was what really had me on the edge of my seat :eek: :rolleyes:

Glad to hear RG is doing well and not seriously injured. Especially in crash such as that. That's a win for the safety regulations.

ZCanadian 11-30-2020 11:52 AM

Yeah, what a race, what a crash.
One can argue the barriers all day long, but it seems that they did exactly what they were meant to do. They absorbed an immense impact without killing the driver. The car didn't careen into the infield, nor did it bounce back into traffic.
I doubt that anyone would have expected a perpendicular crash along a straight.

Thank God that he didn't lose consciousness. Nobody could have reached around in that fire to find the driver (they couldn't even tell if the safety cell was right side up!), un-harness, remove the steering wheel and headrest, and lift an unconscious driver out of the wreck.

Hotrodz 11-30-2020 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3973929)
Yeah, what a race, what a crash.
One can argue the barriers all day long, but it seems that they did exactly what they were meant to do. They absorbed an immense impact without killing the driver. The car didn't careen into the infield, nor did it bounce back into traffic.
I doubt that anyone would have expected a perpendicular crash along a straight.

Thank God that he didn't lose consciousness. Nobody could have reached around in that fire to find the driver (they couldn't even tell if the safety cell was right side up!), un-harness, remove the steering wheel and headrest, and lift an unconscious driver out of the wreck.

A lot of credit has to be given to Romain for not panicking and getting out of the car so fast. You have about 10 seconds before all your safety gear fails.

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ZCanadian 11-30-2020 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3973934)
A lot of credit has to be given to Romain for not panicking and getting out of the car so fast. You have about 10 seconds before all your safety gear fails.

Definitely. One could argue that he had a fair bit of motivation here. But he must have been severely shaken by the crash - it takes a moment to get your bearings after a high G deceleration like that. There must have been very little visibility other than flames, his tear-offs would be melting onto the visor making it even worse. Who knows what debris might have been in his way, or what may have been melting and preventing proper operation (harness, steering wheel, headrest, etc). Perhaps he could hear yelling from the medical team, but I doubt it (earplugs meant to protect from an F1 engine behind his head), so he wouldn't even be certain which way was safest to run. Having to traverse 30 feet of burning fuel slick would not have added to the survivability of this crash!

Take a stopwatch to the event. I think Niki Lauda was looking down on him yesterday, because he used up every one of those 10 seconds (and then some).

Hotrodz 11-30-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3973968)
Definitely. One could argue that he had a fair bit of motivation here. But he must have been severely shaken by the crash - it takes a moment to get your bearings after a high G deceleration like that. There must have been very little visibility other than flames, his tear-offs would be melting onto the visor making it even worse. Who knows what debris might have been in his way, or what may have been melting and preventing proper operation (harness, steering wheel, headrest, etc). Perhaps he could hear yelling from the medical team, but I doubt it (earplugs meant to protect from an F1 engine behind his head), so he wouldn't even be certain which way was safest to run. Having to traverse 30 feet of burning fuel slick would not have added to the survivability of this crash!



Take a stopwatch to the event. I think Niki Lauda was looking down on him yesterday, because he used up every one of those 10 seconds (and then some).

Agreed! He definitely had a guardian angel watching over him. I can't imagine what the impact of hitting that barrier must of felt like and the to gain his wits to figure out what to do next but as one of my favorite comedians, Richard Pryor said..."Fire is a great motivator, set brother on fire and he will run the 100 yard dash in less than 10 seconds!"

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