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Was a MB weakness exposed? Big questions TotoW must answer. It got so bad the Alfas made it through with Giovannazzi in the top 10 mix lol.

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Old 11-14-2020, 06:13 PM   #316 (permalink)
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Was a MB weakness exposed? Big questions TotoW must answer. It got so bad the Alfas made it through with Giovannazzi in the top 10 mix lol.
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Was a MB weakness exposed? Big questions TotoW must answer. It got so bad the Alfas made it through with Giovannazzi in the top 10 mix lol.
I would say so.... not the tight car / setup for the conditions......
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Race filled with plenty of drama to be entertaining. Got to love Ferrari picking up pace. Was bummed that Charlie grabbed P2 and let it slip in the final corners. Awesome for Vettel to be on podium though.

Love races in these conditions because it does show who the real badasses are out on the track. Hamilton’s tires looked wild at the end! Major hat tip to Perez for showing Stroll how it’s done!
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Race filled with plenty of drama to be entertaining. Got to love Ferrari picking up pace. Was bummed that Charlie grabbed P2 and let it slip in the final corners. Awesome for Vettel to be on podium though.

Love races in these conditions because it does show who the real badasses are out on the track. Hamilton’s tires looked wild at the end! Major hat tip to Perez for showing Stroll how it’s done!
However for me the highlight of the race was Vettel placing 3rd.
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What a great race and again some great drives by the best in the world. Please tell me again how it is all about the superiority MB car and that Lewis skills are less than those before him. He is the best of all times period!!!

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MB car exposed but Lewis put a blanket on to keep it in control. So much patience (unlike the young guns) and control that no one else has. He is just so good.
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Race filled with plenty of drama to be entertaining. Got to love Ferrari picking up pace. Was bummed that Charlie grabbed P2 and let it slip in the final corners. Awesome for Vettel to be on podium though.

Love races in these conditions because it does show who the real badasses are out on the track. Hamilton’s tires looked wild at the end! Major hat tip to Perez for showing Stroll how it’s done!
Stroll failed to see what the strategy was. Both he and the pitwall are not communicating and by now Stroll needs a better understanding of F1 and how it works. He is a poor student.

He failed to see graining was the trademark of that tire in those conditions and once graining was passed he could push. He is in the press asking what happend.

I guess fair question but others simply drove to gain pace and work with the package. Perez showed exactly who deserves a seat and who doesnt. If Stroll Sr was at all serious about this Lance would be gone. Pathetic LOL
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Just finish watching the race, amazing the Hamilton won and bottas just kept spinning.
L. Stroll -- well the above comments simple state what happen
Albon -- hmmm, wonder enough if he kept his seat.
just entertaining and just have to say Hamilton and tyre management ---
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Apparently, Bottas reported steering damage to his car from a first lap incident (with Ricciardo, I believe). Might be a weakness of DAS that there is more to go wrong in an incident like that. This was not the race to have steering problems in!

Albon did well, but not well enough. Had Perez not done so brilliant a job, it might have been sufficient.

Hamilton is the master of tire management. And a great driver in dry and wet.

Alfa needs to fire their pit crews. Repeated 9+ second stop times are not acceptable, and they have been pulling that crap all season!
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What a great race and again some great drives by the best in the world. Please tell me again how it is all about the superiority MB car and that Lewis skills are less than those before him. He is the best of all times period!!!

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Not sure about the best of all times. He is the best in this era. There have been several great drivers. It's hard to pick just one.
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Not sure about the best of all times. He is the best in this era. There have been several great drivers. It's hard to pick just one.
Only God knows for sure (not talking about God-Speed, either )
But he truly is a master of his craft. Not my favourite driver, but I admire his abilities in so many ways. And I am impressed with his determination and refusal to give up. That is a valuable lesson to us all.

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Formula has always been about run what you brung regardless of budget which is why Ferrari was able to dominate for there period in history. All the great drivers went to teams with the best car and the all were in the most technological for their day. The same basic ground rules apply to today. You can also look at winning percentage as some will say there are more races today. That said, the discussions always go to well Jack would be better than Tiger if he had the same equipment or Jack never faced the amount of talent that Tiger has. So we can debate and speculate as it is good fun.

Anyway, best overall drive of vehicles Robbie Gordon and for getting about it. LoL

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Formula has always been about run what you brung regardless of budget which is why Ferrari was able to dominate for there period in history. All the great drivers went to teams with the best car and the all were in the most technological for their day. The same basic ground rules apply to today. You can also look at winning percentage as some will say there are more races today. That said, the discussions always go to well Jack would be better than Tiger if he had the same equipment or Jack never faced the amount of talent that Tiger has. So we can debate and speculate as it is good fun.

Anyway, best overall drive of vehicles Robbie Gordon and for getting about it. LoL

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I still can't pick just one. We shall see, Hamilton has more time on his clock to go. He's not done yet!!!!
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The thing for me is the drivers back in the early days where xx were being killed a year. How do you through caution to the wind and do it anyway knowing you may be killed if you make a mistake. Safety these days is leaps and bounds better than anything in the early days or even the early 2000's. How does that influence my decision. Should it? I think it should. Hamilton is way better than Schumacher.
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Statistically, Hamilton is way better, although both earned their 7th at the same age, Lewis has a longer runway, has more championships in the horizon, and Schumacher is at peace with it.

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